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Old 05-07-2003, 03:19 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Well ladies.. My cycle and plan has made a complete 180!!!
I consulted a trainer to the pros and we are tweeking my cycle a bit. I recently got my bloodwork back and my estrogen levels are VERY low.. this could be the cause of my slight acne, no periods, and stagnet weight...

I just started Andriol.. and will also be using 1iu of gh at bedtime for the next 8 weeks.. the gh will continue but i will make a transfer to anavar...

According to this trainer it will balance out my levels, help to put fluids back into the joints (i have constant knee and lower back tightness and soreness), aid in muscle recovery, is quite synergistic with gh, better protein synthesis, NON-toxic to the liver and added strength (and he said my libido may go up too lol).

This excerpt i thought was really cool!! "Andriol is the only form of oral testosterone that is not deactivated by the liver.
Andriol is reabsorbed from the intestine through the lymphphatic system, thus bypassing the liver and becoming effective."

I have not heard of this type of transport system for gear before, so i am kinda excited that my liver is gonna get to chill a bit

So i am only on day 2, but will keep ya'll posted and let ya know how i am feeling... I am using 80mgs a day; 2 tablets a day. Sounds like a lot, but apparantly it is so SHORT lived, hence the frequent dosing for men.. keep your fingers crossed for me lol

guninea pig super hahahhaa...

anyone else had experiences with Andriol??
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Hmm, you have to keep me posted on that..are you still using the transdermal?
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Old 05-08-2003, 06:18 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Hmm, you have to keep me posted on that..are you still using the transdermal?
NO he said to lay off a bit til my levels normalize.. ya know that may be the reason my estrogen is so low, but the weird thing is that i did not have overly high test levels... just low estrogen... so, we'll see..

You doing well?? fina lover you
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I'm doing well! A few weeks into my cycle and all is going well. The initial water retention has gone (thank God!), and my overall strength and hardness has increased considerably. No sides, other than a little swelling down south which has given me an increased libido.
I've been drinking a powdered collagen supplement as well as applying a collagen gel to my skin and that has kept my skin as soft as ever and no oily skin or breakouts either. I had the forethought to do this because I had some problems with oily skin and breakouts on an earlier cycle (it wasn't fina).
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Old 05-09-2003, 06:01 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I'm doing well! A few weeks into my cycle and all is going well. The initial water retention has gone (thank God!), and my overall strength and hardness has increased considerably. No sides, other than a little swelling down south which has given me an increased libido.
I've been drinking a powdered collagen supplement as well as applying a collagen gel to my skin and that has kept my skin as soft as ever and no oily skin or breakouts either. I had the forethought to do this because I had some problems with oily skin and breakouts on an earlier cycle (it wasn't fina).
oh honey.. share the secrets!! A collagen gel??? where do i get this?? tell me more.. My low estrogen levels is causing me to breakout.. my skin is pissing me off!! So i guess as soon as my levels come up, my skin will clear up a bit, but every little bit helps!!!
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I get it from a local store but they also do mail order. Here's the phone number and hours:

1-800-821-4682

9-6 Monday thru Friday
10-5 Saturday

The time zone is Pacific Standard Time

I love that stuff as it's helped my skin alot as I've also thrashed my skin from too much sun exposure too...
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update:

HOLY SHIT is my sex drive up

getting leaner.. but the big thing.. SKIN is looking much much better... i feel tighter and pumped at the gym...

so far so good..

started the gh too..
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HOLY SHIT is my sex drive up

getting leaner.. but the big thing.. SKIN is looking much much better... i feel tighter and pumped at the gym...

so far so good..

started the gh too..
Great news!!

I'm glad it's working for you and you're leaning out ...and you should lean out even more with the gh...that is such a good feeling and I bet you're happy you got the bloodwork done!!

Keep me posted on your progress!!

As for myself, the fina's starting to really kick in for me. Been keeping the diet as clean as hell and chuggin the water and I'm doing fine with no excess weight gain. Strength and hardness is increasing as well and my arms are starting to get vascular (like you mentioned).

That Andriol sounds like some good stuff; was it expensive and what your dosage?
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The Andriol is made by Organon in Mexico comes in 40mgs tabs.

I take 2 a day.. i forget how much my boy paid for it.. Not too much though.. bout anavar price..
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The Andriol is made by Organon in Mexico comes in 40mgs tabs.

I take 2 a day.. i forget how much my boy paid for it.. Not too much though.. bout anavar price..
Thanks, and keep me posted......good luck, SG!!
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OMG.. Nubi i have been sick for 2 weeks now.. why is it then as soon as i am doing well and feeling great.. cycle is going well.. something goes wrong.. i have a black cloud over my head for sure!!!

well i can tell you this though.. my skin is clearing up.. sign that my estrogen is coming back up!!! i can feel a bit of a difference in my fat though i am not as hard.. i can't wait to start my anavar again.. i much prefer anavar, but i will listen to the doc/trainer and get my hormones balanced before i plunge back in..

damn i miss my fina i hate being soft at all!!! and my belly is a little bloated too.. not sure if there is connection, but i am guessing so..

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What a bummer; I hope you feel better...damn, I'd miss my Fina too..I love that stuff; still haven't tried the transdermal yet.

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OMG.. Nubi i have been sick for 2 days now.. why is it then as soon as i am doing well and feeling great.. cycle is going well.. something goes wrong.. i have a black cloud over my head for sure!!!

well i can tell you this though.. my skin is clearing up.. sign that my estrogen is coming back up!!! i can feel a bit of a difference in my fat though i am not as hard.. i can't wait to start my anavar again.. i much prefer anavar, but i will listen to the doc/trainer and get my hormones balanced before i plunge back in..

damn i miss my fina i hate being soft at all!!! and my belly is a little bloated too.. not sure if there is connection, but i am guessing so..

thanks for thinking of me though
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supergirl , i hope you get over the crud and start feeling better ,
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Damn super! I'm sorry you're having those problems. I'm not on anything and haven't been for some time now Get well soon!! LOL!
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Yeah girl.. give us an update!
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is the andriol what made you so hard?
nope.. anavar gets me hard..
the andriol was brought in to aid in my estrogen levels..

i am doing well.. i am down about 3% bf and about 10lbs.. so i am definitely leaning out!! and if i tell ya, i have not done any cardio either lol.. just eating clean..

Cardio and clen should be starting this week...
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nope.. anavar gets me hard..
the andriol was brought in to aid in my estrogen levels..

i am doing well.. i am down about 3% bf and about 10lbs.. so i am definitely leaning out!! and if i tell ya, i have not done any cardio either lol.. just eating clean..

Cardio and clen should be starting this week...
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