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Old 05-08-2005, 04:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Red face Proviron/Nolvadex

I used proviron for the first time in my last show. I made alot of mistakes in this show regarding, carb up etc but I'm not sure the proviron made a huge difference from my last show. Has anyone had experience with using proviron by itself and using prov/nolva together. I have another show in 4 months and wondering if I should add nolva to the mix.
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Old 05-09-2005, 11:12 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I personally didn't see shit with proviron either, but i also have hormonal problems with estrogen dominance. arimidex was the only thing that worked for me, and damned if it didn't work perfectly too! but it's strong shit, and the rebound can be ridiculous if you don't taper carefully. I haven't ever used tamoxifen (nolva) but i've heard its good for hardening up over time & decreasing water; definitely not as fast as arimidex tho. good luck, & keep us posted!
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Old 05-11-2005, 03:18 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I'd like to try Nolvadex. I might even try hitting up my doc for a prescription, lets see what he says.
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Old 05-17-2005, 04:17 AM   #4 (permalink)
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proviron is extremely effective at "drying" you out for a show... I am really suprised to hear you did not see results from it.. perhaps your dosages were not strong enough or other factors played a role, but Proviron is very effective if done correctly!
As per Nolvadex... it will work ONLY when your bodyfat is already VERY low; 10% or lower... and it suppresses estrogen so that the rest of the fat cells in laymens terms, "melt away"
HOWEVER!!! Major problem with Nolv is that estrogen REBOUNDS!!! So don't get too upset when Post show, you gain fat...

PLUS also on the downside, you are using 2 supplements that "dry" you out... not only fat, water etc, but your natural oils which affect your hair making it coarse, dry and brittle as well as your nails and skin; leather look... so keep that in mind... I highly suggest keeping your omegas high and consuming more fish then anything else...

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Old 05-17-2005, 08:34 PM   #5 (permalink)
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good info supergirl. I was below 10% when I used it but like I said before I think other factors were present too. I'm going to have it on hand, nolva, but I will definately use proviron again where I will also be making other changes.So hopefully thats all I need.
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Old 05-18-2005, 03:03 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Just one more question, does this schedule look to be correct,
3 weeks out proviron 25mg ed
4 weeks out nolva 10mg 2x per day, taper off nolva after the show, add ec to help prevent bad rebound.
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Old 05-22-2005, 12:22 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Has anyone experienced harsh adrogenic side effects using this combo?
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Old 08-06-2005, 02:01 AM   #8 (permalink)
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i personnaly used prov and nolva and had lost fat and hardened muscles but the nolvadex really messed my hormones up so bad as i recently posted a few days ago about it. i didnt have a period for three months and i cry over everything or get irritated. my hormones are wacked i personnally will never use nolva again
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Pro viron is not recommended for women as it is such a high androgen. Also DHT production is increased and with that comes hair loss.
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Old 07-28-2008, 03:26 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Ok so why these.....why not a little anavar or primo and then some clen for a contest cycle?
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