clenbuterol

[sexyred]

Hey ladies, I just started researching clenbuterol and I was wondering if anyone has anything to say about it? Or any before or after pics of using it? Any feed back would be appreciated! Thanks!

[nosocks2]

do i know you red???

[Fyre]

There are tons of threads on Clenbuterol hun. Just key in Clenbuterol in the search function and it will give you a whole lot of reading material.
I've used it myself and yes it does work well for me. I don't use it too often due to the side effects.

[lil'shortstack]

Could you tell us a little more about yourself and your goals. Such as your hieght, weight, and Bodyfat %, and what you are shooting for?
Clen might not be what you need depending on your goals.

[Prana]

lil shortstack, I think I remember reading on the boards that you're taking liquid clen? just wondering how it's going for you? are you having bad sides? have stats changed? and how are you cycling it?

Thanks for the update

[Prana]

Originally posted by Fyre

I've used it myself and yes it does work well for me. I don't use it too often due to the side effects.

Fyre, in your experience is there anything that gives the good results like clen does - without the sides? or at least with more bearable sides?

[sparklylegwarmers]

yohimbine hcl plus topical yohimbine works great if you're just trying to lean out those stubborn spots.

[Prana]

Originally posted by sparklylegwarmers
yohimbine hcl plus topical yohimbine works great if you're just trying to lean out those stubborn spots.

What do you think about using thermorexin on the 2 weeks off clen? (thermorexin has yohimbine hcl, caffeine, and bunch of other natrual stuff, no ephadra though)

[sparklylegwarmers]

Originally posted by Prana
What do you think about using thermorexin on the 2 weeks off clen? (thermorexin has yohimbine hcl, caffeine, and bunch of other natrual stuff, no ephadra though)

if you can get it over the border to canada, then sure (ORAL yohimbine is illegal in canada). buying yohimbine hcl on its own is still MUCH cheaper, though.

[Prana]

Originally posted by sparklylegwarmers
if you can get it over the border to canada, then sure (ORAL yohimbine is illegal in canada). buying yohimbine hcl on its own is still MUCH cheaper, though.

yeah, thermorexin is really hard to get ... I have one bottle though, and some yohimbine tabs left over from last spring

I thought yohimbine was used for erectile dysfunction... didn't know it was illegal in Canada Is that recent?

[Prana]

Oh BTW - did oral yohimbine give you major nausea? do you know anything that can help with that?

[Fyre]

Originally posted by Prana
Fyre, in your experience is there anything that gives the good results like clen does - without the sides? or at least with more bearable sides?

oh gosh Prana, sorry it took so long for me to reply....hehehe..i must have overlooked the thread. Well, some people don't get too bad of sides when using Clen. Have you tried it before Prana?
I also like the ephedrine, caffeine, yohimbine stack as well. That works great too!

[Fyre]

Originally posted by Prana
yeah, thermorexin is really hard to get ... I have one bottle though, and some yohimbine tabs left over from last spring

I thought yohimbine was used for erectile dysfunction... didn't know it was illegal in Canada Is that recent?

yep, that's what yohimbine is medically for...hehehe.
It's been illegal for quite some time in Canada.

[Fyre]

Originally posted by Prana
Oh BTW - did oral yohimbine give you major nausea? do you know anything that can help with that?

I do find that I sometimes feel sick on it but i find if I eat a little something with it, it helps.
The one thing I don't like with the yohimbine is the cold sweats! Prana, do you get those?

[sparklylegwarmers]

Originally posted by Fyre
I do find that I sometimes feel sick on it but i find if I eat a little something with it, it helps.
The one thing I don't like with the yohimbine is the cold sweats! Prana, do you get those?

depends on what you're eating... if you eat carbs it will help but then it negates the point of taking the yohimbine because it makes it ineffective. what dosing schedule did you follow?

i find that the best way to take yohimbine is to take it in 2.5mg amounts and build up to your ideal dosage (mine was 12.5mg)... the formula is .2 mg per kg of bodyweight. at 2.5mg i was lightheaded and having heart palpitations, but within a couple of weeks i was able to take 12.5mg at a shot w/ a cup of coffee (recommended as well because caffeine enhances the effects) and a LOW carb meal (less than 2g... ). if you can take it first thing in the morning w/coffee and then do cardio you'll be good to go.

yohimbine also works best on a low carb diet. it works for about 4 hrs in the body as long as you keep the carbs extremely low during that time period.

i was recommended a dosage that would induce the poisoning effects (the nausea, etc), but i just didn't have the resources or time to try that out... and frankly, it didn't sound safe. i DO, however, recommend it be used longterm for maximum effects (ie: a few months).

also, i've read not take yohimbine with ephedrine because neither will work properly if used together.

[Fyre]

Originally posted by sparklylegwarmers
depends on what you're eating... if you eat carbs it will help but then it negates the point of taking the yohimbine because it makes it ineffective. what dosing schedule did you follow?

i find that the best way to take yohimbine is to take it in 2.5mg amounts and build up to your ideal dosage (mine was 12.5mg)... the formula is .2 mg per kg of bodyweight. at 2.5mg i was lightheaded and having heart palpitations, but within a couple of weeks i was able to take 12.5mg at a shot w/ a cup of coffee (recommended as well because caffeine enhances the effects) and a LOW carb meal (less than 2g... ). if you can take it first thing in the morning w/coffee and then do cardio you'll be good to go.

yohimbine also works best on a low carb diet. it works for about 4 hrs in the body as long as you keep the carbs extremely low during that time period.

i was recommended a dosage that would induce the poisoning effects (the nausea, etc), but i just didn't have the resources or time to try that out... and frankly, it didn't sound safe. i DO, however, recommend it be used longterm for maximum effects (ie: a few months).

also, i've read not take yohimbine with ephedrine because neither will work properly if used together.

I took the ephedrine and the yohimbine together along with some caffeine and it worked amazing! I guess to each his own in that regard. Different people respond differently.
I myself did take the yohimbine with no carbs, usually just protein and yes, it did help. You were able to get up to 12.5mg at once? Wow! I normally take one tab which is 6mg of yohimbine(the pink ones) twice a day. I've done different cycles with it. I've done it where i do the ephedrine caffeine stack on my off days to the yohimbine and i've also done it where i've stacked the yohimbine with the ephedrine and caffeine. Both worked very well for me. Once again though, different people react differently.

[sparklylegwarmers]

Originally posted by Fyre
I took the ephedrine and the yohimbine together along with some caffeine and it worked amazing! I guess to each his own in that regard. Different people respond differently.
I myself did take the yohimbine with no carbs, usually just protein and yes, it did help. You were able to get up to 12.5mg at once? Wow! I normally take one tab which is 6mg of yohimbine(the pink ones) twice a day. I've done different cycles with it. I've done it where i do the ephedrine caffeine stack on my off days to the yohimbine and i've also done it where i've stacked the yohimbine with the ephedrine and caffeine. Both worked very well for me. Once again though, different people react differently.

definitely... research can only tell you so much. if it's working - do it!

yeah i actually got up to 12.5mg at a shot... and i'd take a cup of coffee with it. i got a little hyper at first, but after a while it wasn't too bad. i learned about taking it that way from JJ Figure. she actually sets her alarm to take it at 3AM so she can sleep on it and then get up and do cardio in the AM.

i think there are a variety of ways to take it.

how long did you run it for?

sorry about the tone in my post... when i re-read it i thought, wow i sound so bitchy! i really didn't mean it that way... i just didn't read over what i had written.

[Prana]

Fyre, I haven't tried Clen before only yomhimbine (the pink 6mg tabs), and thermorexin. I didn't complete a whole cycle of either because I was in school then since I was giving patients narcotics and the like, I wanted to be in the right mind!!!! . Yes Fyre, Yohimbine gave me cold sweats. The thermorexin made me very "spaced out" and shakey.

Im done school now, so this is perfect timing for the sides to come.


I was wondering Fyre and Sparkly, what you are saying about the yohimbine. Since it is just included in my thermorexin, does the low carbs still apply? Yohmibine just blocks estrogen to fat cells right?

Did both of you start at one thermorexin cap per day? It's hard to split them up becuase they are capsules. I would like to just break it open and drink it even to get half a dose at first. (I am very senstivie to caffeine as well, get cold sweats from it)

Do both of you even think cycling the thermorexin on the 2eeks of clen is neccesary or should I just try out clen first?

thanks

[sparklylegwarmers]

Originally posted by Prana

I was wondering Fyre and Sparkly, what you are saying about the yohimbine. Since it is just included in my thermorexin, does the low carbs still apply? Yohmibine just blocks estrogen to fat cells right?

Did both of you start at one thermorexin cap per day? It's hard to split them up becuase they are capsules. I would like to just break it open and drink it even to get half a dose at first. (I am very senstivie to caffeine as well, get cold sweats from it)

Do both of you even think cycling the thermorexin on the 2eeks of clen is neccesary or should I just try out clen first?

thanks

my guess is there isn't as much yohimbine in thermorexin as there would be if you took it on its own. macro floats around here, so he might be able to let us know.

i took yohimbine hcl on its own and combined with coffee and topical yohimbine. i'm sensitive to caffeine, too, but i managed pretty well. fyre can help with the dosing for the thermorexin, since i've never taken it.

yeah yohimbine has to do with the alpha-2 receptors... basically it shuts them down... and the less of them there are, the less estrogen in that area.. and less fat then, too.

[Prana]

Originally posted by sparklylegwarmers
my guess is there isn't as much yohimbine in thermorexin as there would be if you took it on its own. macro floats around here, so he might be able to let us know.

i took yohimbine hcl on its own and combined with coffee and topical yohimbine. i'm sensitive to caffeine, too, but i managed pretty well. fyre can help with the dosing for the thermorexin, since i've never taken it.

yeah yohimbine has to do with the alpha-2 receptors... basically it shuts them down... and the less of them there are, the less estrogen in that area.. and less fat then, too.

Hi Sparkly, I have the thermorexin bottle here, there are 3mg yohimbine hcl in one cap and 100mg caffeine. So that's equivelant to half a pink tab of yohimbine.

So you just follow that low carb diet when you are on yohimbine? My cutting diet (which I am currently on) has approx. 100 g's of carbs. Most being complex through the day and dextrose post workout.

Sinse Fyre has tried both, maybe she can tell me if she thinks I should start out with just clen, or just thermorexin, or together on the weeks seperately

[Prana]

Hey Sexyred, sorry if this thread kinda turned into a yohimbine discussion!

[sparklylegwarmers]

Originally posted by Prana
Hi Sparkly, I have the thermorexin bottle here, there are 3mg yohimbine hcl in one cap and 100mg caffeine. So that's equivelant to half a pink tab of yohimbine.

So you just follow that low carb diet when you are on yohimbine? My cutting diet (which I am currently on) has approx. 100 g's of carbs. Most being complex through the day and dextrose post workout.

Sinse Fyre has tried both, maybe she can tell me if she thinks I should start out with just clen, or just thermorexin, or together on the weeks seperately

hey cool that's good!

if you're gonna take the thermorexin, i would suggest you ensure you're basically eating keto for 4 hrs following taking it (so, first thing in the morning and a keto breakfast). i ended up with a higher dosage of yohimbine, so you might consider taking supplemental yohimbine with it.. or not. your choice

i've never taken pink tabs of yohimbine. what brand is that? i had 2.5mg caps.

[Prana]

Originally posted by sparklylegwarmers
hey cool that's good!

if you're gonna take the thermorexin, i would suggest you ensure you're basically eating keto for 4 hrs following taking it (so, first thing in the morning and a keto breakfast). i ended up with a higher dosage of yohimbine, so you might consider taking supplemental yohimbine with it.. or not. your choice

i've never taken pink tabs of yohimbine. what brand is that? i had 2.5mg caps.

Hey thanks for the PM link, very good stuff

I can't tell you the brand because I blacked out the label with marker because I was afraid someone would find it!! hahah - ask Fyre though, she has the same stuff I do I think. I think it's like Pharma Science or somthing - can't remember.

[sparklylegwarmers]

LOL!

and no problem! glad you found it useful

[Fyre]

Originally posted by Prana
Hi Sparkly, I have the thermorexin bottle here, there are 3mg yohimbine hcl in one cap and 100mg caffeine. So that's equivelant to half a pink tab of yohimbine.

So you just follow that low carb diet when you are on yohimbine? My cutting diet (which I am currently on) has approx. 100 g's of carbs. Most being complex through the day and dextrose post workout.

Sinse Fyre has tried both, maybe she can tell me if she thinks I should start out with just clen, or just thermorexin, or together on the weeks seperately

I would go two weeks on Clen and then two weeks on Thermorexin. You should get good results from that cycle.