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Old 01-16-2004, 04:48 PM   #1 (permalink)
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My wife is on her second cycle of British dragon winnie at 25 mgs ed.She had great results from her first cycle going from 97 to 110 and keeping the same Bf at 7%. My question is about the estrogen rebound that i saw mentioned in other posts

...is this something she will need to address with some PCT,i did'nt know women needed PCT but at the dosages she is running i guess i should ask.

FWIW she started out using winnie on her first cycle and got little or no sides from it except a swollen clit,a huge sex drive and 12lbs of lean body mass.

I still would'nt suggest it to anyone else but she was one of the lucky ones that responded well to it right out of the gate.

Is there anything that else besides anavar that would compliment the winnie for her or should she just stick with what is working and keep it simple?

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Old 01-16-2004, 05:04 PM   #2 (permalink)
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oh yeah, She got joint pain pretty good so she does glu/chon 2000 mgs ed and that helps alot.
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25mg's seems like a lot of winny for a female.

Females don't need to run PCT.
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yeah according to what ive read that is alot,But she has no signs of virulization and no acne so do you go by what your body tells you or follow the herd?
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how long was her first cycle?
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12 wks but she started small and worked up from there:

wk 1 -5 mg ed
wk 2,3-10 mgs ed
wk 4,5,6 -15 mgs ed
wk 7,8,9 -20 mgs ed
wk10,11,12-25 mgs ed

at that point we figured she better chill out and clean up for a while her joints were gettin a beatin.So she has been off for over 3 mths now and kept all of her gains ,she started 2 wks ago...
eating ultra clean and lowered the calories + the 25 mgs of the winnie ed
she dropped 2 % bf and 3 lbs and is harrassing me for sex so badly for the past couple of days I had to order some cialis to keep pace.
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Is there anything that else besides anavar that would compliment the winnie for her or should she just stick with what is working and keep it simple?

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i always say "if it ain't broke" if she is getting where she wants to be then why switch it up.. if her hormones are handling the winny well, then don't screw with anything else..
However the joint issue is a concern.. i have mentioned before that winny is a fantastic drug on paper, but when we use it, there are mad sides.. fortunetly she has not had the acne.. and i pray for her sake she never gets it.. BUT the joints.. she is VERY prone to injury.. Winny dries out the joints and the connective tissue does not strengthen nearly as fast as the muscles do, thsu causing more of a risk for injury..
this is why so many men use deca with winny, to combat the negatives.. however as a female trying to avoid virilization, deca is not the best option.. the G&C should help a bit, but tell her the key to winny is SLOW AND STEADY GAINS!! do not over due it or push beyond limits too fast.. allow her body to slowly make changes.. Honestly that is the best advice i can give her..

Just keep her AWAY from clen while on winny.. clen too will compete for all water sources in the body which will in turn cause even more dryness in her joints!!! So be careful!! and make sure she drinks water like it is going out of style!!!

as per any PCT.. winny does not affect estrogen too badly.. she should not experience any rebound.. i mean she can always taper off, but it is not necessary..

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As usual, great advice Supergirl.

I must say, I'm surprised she didn't experience anything more on 25mg a day. Thankfully, she didn't experience the acne that is often associated with Winny. The gains she made though are awesome, she must be very happy! Did she find she retained water on the Winny?
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As usual, great advice Supergirl.

I must say, I'm surprised she didn't experience anything more on 25mg a day. Thankfully, she didn't experience the acne that is often associated with Winny. The gains she made though are awesome, she must be very happy! Did she find she retained water on the Winny?
thanks girl!! Your support is very much appreciated by the way!!


good question too.. water retention!! Some women have it, while others don't..
i had water retention the first 2 weeks and then it seemed to taper off and my vascularity starting coming out...
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No she did'nt seem to hold much water either,She's been on for 3 1/2 weeks on this cycle and has already gained more mass and getting more cut and vascular by the day. She wants to try EQ on her next cycle at 50 or 100 mgs a week anyone have any experiences with this.I have never done EQ myself ,only deca.
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