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Old 11-16-2009, 11:27 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I'm just wondering if S4 will help?
My sister has Fibromyalgia and is in a great deal of pain all the time. S4, is this good for females? Bass seemed to have good results with his joints. i have hopes of helping her.
any advice would be great.
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Old 11-16-2009, 03:50 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Imo cyto, I don't think it will. Fibromyalgia is some funny shit. Maybe somebody knows better than me though. Sorry bro.
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Old 11-16-2009, 04:03 PM   #3 (permalink)
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thanks Biggin. it is some funny sht. the more i read about the more i want to help.

i think i'm just streaching for some thing to help her. she's on some stuff now that cost 4 grand a month. good thing for medical coverage. i have found this one call Lyrica. it helps block the pain receptors. i'll tell her about this one.
but if any one has any ideas great. i'll take all i can get here.
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I know dalotta works for pain. She probably takes a pain-killer I would imagine, with fibromyalgia nothing really works though.
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i'll look that one up. the one she injects now is Enbrel. this is a cut n paste of some of the info on that drug. sounds rather interesting.

ENBREL® (etanercept) is a dimeric fusion protein consisting of the extracellular ligand-binding portion of the human 75 kilodalton (p75) tumor necrosis factor receptor (TNFR) linked to the Fc portion of human IgG1. The Fc component of etanercept contains the CH2 domain, the CH3 domain and hinge region, but not the CH1 domain of IgG1. Etanercept is produced by recombinant DNA technology in a Chinese hamster ovary (CHO) mammalian cell expression system. It consists of 934 amino acids and has an apparent molecular weight of approximately 150 kilodaltons.

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Enbrel is prescribed for rheumotoid arthritis as well. It's very dangerous.
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I'm just wondering if S4 will help?
My sister has Fibromyalgia and is in a great deal of pain all the time. S4, is this good for females? Bass seemed to have good results with his joints. i have hopes of helping her.
any advice would be great.
Hi Cyto,
i'm a Physical Therapist, from my experience in working with several clients with fibromyalgia, and Rhumatoid Arthritis, movement and exercise seems to play a key role in pain management and prevention.
What i have used in the past with great success, is an individualy designed 1hr workout routine with Pilates apparatus.
these machines help people with chronic pain and injury enjoy movement while eliminating most weight bearing.
i have a Certified pilates Instructor who works for me, these clients see her from 2-3 times a week, to once a month.

i suggest you search for a good Pilates studio or a Pilates instructor in a Rehab facility. avoid gym Pilates or group Pilates, this will not be suitable for your sister; she should be personaly evaluated.
let me know if you have any questions.


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Old 11-17-2009, 09:19 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Hi Cyto,
i'm a Physical Therapist, from my experience in working with several clients with fibromyalgia, and Rhumatoid Arthritis, movement and exercise seems to play a key role in pain management and prevention.
What i have used in the past with great success, is an individualy designed 1hr workout routine with Pilates apparatus.
these machines help people with chronic pain and injury enjoy movement while eliminating most weight bearing.
i have a Certified pilates Instructor who works for me, these clients see her from 2-3 times a week, to once a month.

i suggest you search for a good Pilates studio or a Pilates instructor in a Rehab facility. avoid gym Pilates or group Pilates, this will not be suitable for your sister; she should be personaly evaluated.
let me know if you have any questions.


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thank you i will let her know about pilates. i have been trying to get her active slowly, this sounds like it may be the best way.
thanks for the advice and thanks to Biggin as well.
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This is hard to answer because fibromyalgia sufferers are all so different. If it is a last resort try it. You have nothing to lose when you are in pain. Just dose it easy and watch for unwanted side effects.

However has she tried other things? Exercise? Diet? Massage? Rest? Softer type supplements?

So far most research has said that exercise although painful at first is the best thing in the long run.
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This is hard to answer because fibromyalgia sufferers are all so different. If it is a last resort try it. You have nothing to lose when you are in pain. Just dose it easy and watch for unwanted side effects.

However has she tried other things? Exercise? Diet? Massage? Rest? Softer type supplements?

So far most research has said that exercise although painful at first is the best thing in the long run.
she has been using the meds and tried the gym. i was not aware of any of this untill last week. and she has had it for a while. she stop the gym for a few reason one being pain the other not know howq to use the equipment.and being embarassed to ask for help. so i told her i will go with her if she wants to get back to it cause the pain is not as bad now. the diet she has going is weak but i can understand that one cause of the other drug shes on is supressing the appetite. i think it is symbalta. it's for arthritic pain. i'm going to help her in the gym and get her going and see if it helps her along. i'm also goingt o get her to read this thread and let her make her own mind up. thanks for the advice every thing helps.
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she has been using the meds and tried the gym. i was not aware of any of this untill last week. and she has had it for a while. she stop the gym for a few reason one being pain the other not know howq to use the equipment.and being embarassed to ask for help. so i told her i will go with her if she wants to get back to it cause the pain is not as bad now. the diet she has going is weak but i can understand that one cause of the other drug shes on is supressing the appetite. i think it is symbalta. it's for arthritic pain. i'm going to help her in the gym and get her going and see if it helps her along. i'm also goingt o get her to read this thread and let her make her own mind up. thanks for the advice every thing helps.
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I thought cymbalta was an anti-depressant. I didn't know it could be used for arthritic pain. Tell your girlfriend if she is serious about feeling better getting into the gym and eating a proper diet is the first and most important step.

Nowadays so many people think drugs are the answer for everything when diet and exercise can make a world of difference for different diseases, conditions, physical appearance, etc.
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i'm more then likly wrong with the last drug name.
i agree with you that diet and exercise is the best thing.
but MM i'm not dateing my sister. this my sister i'm trying to help. LMAO thanks.
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i'm more then likly wrong with the last drug name.
i agree with you that diet and exercise is the best thing.
but MM i'm not dateing my sister. this my sister i'm trying to help. LMAO thanks.
Oopsa Daisy!!! Thanks for the reminder!! And it's good to know you aren't dating your sister!

One good thing about a sibling relationship.....you can really cut to the grind and be brutally honest without hurting the relationship much! So be harsh with her and tell her to get her ass in gear if she needs to!
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i did laugh my ass off at that. i'll get her going thats for sure. thanks again.
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