[82nd Killer]

Ladies I'm using my husbands login so forgive me if I'm breaking rules. (Not sure if I am) I have been training for 10 years, 5'1" 120 lbs. I am looking to shred some BF after having my 3rd and final 11 lb baby and would like to hear from any women that have used fina at low doses. Side effects to be expected? Is it safe to do so? The fina is 100mg/cc confirmed by lab testing. Any comments you gals have would be deeply appreciated. My husband keeps telling me hell no, but I want to hear ya'll. Thanks

[Dread Pirate Roberts]

I think Fina would be very bad for you. You might grow a cockkkk. I'm not a women and have no personal experiences.

Welcome Go register your own user name and make some Friends.

[estray]

My wife is using tren right now. Its her second time. The first time we started out at 20mg 2x a week but ended up bumping it to 40mg 2x. The body recomposition was crazy. In 6 weeks she lost 4% bodyfat and gained 10lbs of muscle. I never wouldve expected from that low of a dose and because she was eating to lose weight but she was still getting nearly 200g of protein every day so i guess that was enough. And she kept it all too which also amazes me. HOWEVER, it didnt come without a price. Her voice did change a little and EVERYONE she knows is always making comments about it, wondering if shes sick or whats going on. She honestly doesnt care(obviously or she wouldnt be using it again) but she does get annoyed by people asking her all the time. So be warned, it creeps up and before you know it your voice has changed and its permanent. If its something you can live with than so be it. If not, i wouldnt touch it. She also got some moderate clitoral enlargement but she actually enjoys that side effect and her libido was unbelievable too. She got some acne too but didnt really care for that.

If you do decide to run tren i would recommend a little test with it too. Tren will shut you down in a hurry and leave you without any estrogen and this isnt a good thing for women since you need some. Taking a little test will allow some aromatization into estrogen and help keep a better overall hormonal balance. 25mg a week would be plenty but bear in mind this is another androgen so its just increasing the risk of sides.

That being said, how much weight do you figure you need to lose? You know having babies can really screw up your metabolism by slowing your thyroid down. Take your temp in the morning, if its below 97.6 then thats a good indication of hypothyroidism. Take it later in the day too and if it doesnt make it to 98.6 or within a couple tenths of that then thats another good indication. If this is the case then a little t3 supplementation might go a long way. This would be a lot safer than running tren for sure. I wouldnt resort to tren unless your serious about bodybuilding or powerlifting or dont mind being a human guinea pig.

[intelligentmovement]

Originally Posted by Dread Pirate Roberts

I think Fina would be very bad for you. You might grow a cockkkk. I'm not a women and have no personal experiences.

Welcome Go register your own user name and make some Friends.

eek that sound like a reallly good reason NOT to use Fina!

[caladin]

To each there own but I would never put my woman on tren just anavar.

[estray]

Originally Posted by caladin

To each there own but I would never put my woman on tren just anavar.

You think men are the only ones capable of learning the ins and outs of AAS? Its not rocket science. Plenty of women out there capable of educating themselves and making their own decisions and dont need a guy to 'put' them on anything.

[caladin]

Well I never said that... Just saying that I wouldnt let her take it. To harsh for her. Woman are just as smart as men. Sometime smarter.

[estray]

Heres an excellent article about women and tren. I guess if you take anyting from this it should be that if youre not willing to accept the possible side effects, then dont use the drug. This goes with any steroid, including Anavar. There is no such thing as a safe steroid, theyre ALL male hormones and they ALL have the potential for androgenic activity. If this is not acceptable to the user then dont use it. Simple as that.





http://www.rxmuscle.com/the-women/66...renbolone.html

Women and Steroids. . . Trenbolone!
Written by Leigh Penman
Thursday, 27 August 2009 00:24



TRENBOLONE


Trenbolone is one of the most popular drugs used by bodybuilders today and, when you look at the stats, it is not hard to see why. A very potent androgen with strong anabolic activity, Trenbolone is an extremely effective hardening and cutting agent. In fact, it is considered indispensable when it comes to pre contest preparation. However, it is also extremely valuable in the off-season as it creates a rapid build up of strength and muscle mass. In fact, the anabolic effect is often compared to testosterone or Dianabol with one very important difference - it does not convert to estrogen. This is what truly sets it apart, as most mass building drugs readily aromatize, leading to many estrogen related problems (e.g. water retention gynecomastia).

Due to the lack of water retention, the gains when using this drug are more easily maintained on discontinuing its use. In addition to this, a very hard and defined appearance can be achieved. Also, since gynecomastia is not an issue, there should not be any need to add an anti-estrogen as long as Trenbolone is the only steroid being used.

Due to the highly androgenic nature of this drug an increase in the burning of body fat is observed and a much tighter physique can be achieved without having to resort to extreme dieting.




TRENBOLONE- POINTS OF INTEREST


•Trenbolone is more potent than testosterone with an effect being gauged as three times as strong on a milligram for milligram basis. It is also four times as anabolic as Deca Durabolin and ten times as androgenic. This makes the majority of the weight gained on this drug lean, quality muscle.
•Trenbolone also creates an increase in the levels of the hormone IGF-1 (Insulin like Growth Factor-1) which is highly anabolic within muscle tissue.
•Trenbolone has a stronger binding affinity to the androgen receptor than testosterone. This feature is a major contributing factor to the process of anabolism and fat loss.
•By promoting nitrogen retention and protein synthesis within the muscle Trenbolone allows the food you eat and the nutritional supplements you take to be used more effectively. It also reduces levels of the catabolic hormone cortisol.
•Trenbolone is also involved in the production of red blood cells and increases the rate of glycogen replenishment (both of which contribute not only to stamina but also to recovery from workouts)

SIDE EFFECTS

A reduction in aerobic capacity is the most common complaint with Trenbolone. This is thought to be caused by bronchial dilation resulting from an increase in prostaglandin production. The condition known as "Tren Cough" is often a complaint registered with users of the Acetate version (Trenbolone is available in Acetate and Enanthate forms). Androgenic side effects may also be experienced which include oily skin, aggressive behavior, and acne and hair loss. For this reason women are usually advised to stay away from this drug.



TRENBOLONE...THE WOMEN OF THE FORUM SPEAK OUT


It seems that although women are generally told to avoid using this drug, Trenbolone is being used more and more by women in controlled doses. The fact that it adds primarily lean mass whilst reducing body fat is obviously a key factor in its attractiveness. When women were asked for their feedback on Trenbolone use a variety of favored dosages came up. Anything from a very conservative 10mg every other day to a more adventurous 100mg/week split into two doses.

Stacking Trenbolone with Testosterone Propionate was also something favored by those engaging in high level competition.

Another use of Trenbolone involved taking it 3-4 days before a show in order to add hardness and definition to the physique.

It has to be said that side effects were experienced by all - usually increased hair growth and acne - and the severity of the side effects seemed to be worse in younger women. The theory expressed here being that ovarian function may be the reason for this, with a younger woman still having stronger ovarian function than an older women who may be entering peri-menopause.

This is all speculation of course but seems like a plausible explanation in my opinion.

Either way, if you are considering using Trenbolone it is advised to use it on its own and at extremely low doses (such as the aforementioned 10mg every other day) in order to test your own unique sensitivity.




TRENBOLONE....THE SISTER STEEL EVALUATION


Trenbolone is a potent androgen that is primarily used in cattle, so there is even less information at our disposal on this compound or its effects on the female endocrine system than any other drug. It is the one drug that seems to produce results as significant as the side effects that are associated with it. Women are generally advised to stay clear of Trenbolone considering the strong androgenic component which eradicates any possibility of running Trenbolone without sides. The more seasoned female athlete will run it in the off season in order to reap the muscle building benefits of the drug whilst maintaining a relatively low body fat. On the other hand running it during contest preparation will preserve the newly added muscle mass while on a calorie restricted diet. The less daring athlete will run Trenbolone during the last few weeks of contest preparation or even limit their use to the week before the show - with a more frequent injection schedule.

Women who have experienced less favorable side effects on Trenbolone report experiencing tachycardia from a single pin, accompanied by profuse night sweats and insomnia bad enough to bail on the cycle. Others experience rapid hair growth with more frequent shaving (side effects that are far from unmanageable).

Quite honestly, Trenbolone dosing is dependent on how much a woman is willing to deal with in terms of sides. There is no conservative dose for a first timer with Trenbolone being far better suited for the educated, experienced and seasoned athlete who has paid her dues.

It is also important to note that Trenbolone lowers TSH levels so running T3 in conjunction with it is highly advisable, as well as an anti-prolactin such as Dostinex at 0.5mg every third day or 5mg of Bromocriptine daily to keep prolactin levels in check.

[Die$eL~Man]

not recommended

[Miss Muscle]

Leigh Penman did NOT write that article. She "edited" it and claimed it for her own as so many do.

Fina is not recommended. If you want to try it be prepared for some harsh side effects.

If this is your first cycle than this compounds is a big no no.

You've tried shedding bodyfat going a bit more harsh with diet and cardio?

[estray]

Its unfortunate this site doesnt have more women with real life AAS experience.

[StoneColdNTO]

Originally Posted by estray

Its unfortunate this site doesnt have more women with real life AAS experience.

What's really unfortunate is guys like you giving women bad advise.

I'd appreciate it if you stay out of the Woman's forum.

[estray]

Originally Posted by StoneColdNTO

What's really unfortunate is guys like you giving women bad advise.

I'd appreciate it if you stay out of the Woman's forum.

Fuck off old man. Id appreciate it if youd grow a head of hair and not be so fucking goddamn ugly.

And get some female mods that have some real experience, not just one who think theyre AAS gurus because theyve read all the drug profiles. At least i have something to offer this section by passing on my wifes experiences.

Nice to see that 'Ology is still a joke.

[82nd Killer]

Ok, I'm not even going to look at the bottle of Tren, thanks for the info.

[Biggin]

Congrats on 37 Confirmed Kills 82nd Killa!!! Hopefully U will get 37 more or come back home bro!!

[pabell003]

here is a great info man......nice job.....keep it up man thanks and thanks for the links.

[mormuscle]

Originally Posted by estray

Heres an excellent article about women and tren. I guess if you take anyting from this it should be that if youre not willing to accept the possible side effects, then dont use the drug. This goes with any steroid, including Anavar. There is no such thing as a safe steroid, theyre ALL male hormones and they ALL have the potential for androgenic activity. If this is not acceptable to the user then dont use it. Simple as that.





Women and Steroids. . . Trenbolone!

Women and Steroids. . . Trenbolone!
Written by Leigh Penman
Thursday, 27 August 2009 00:24



TRENBOLONE


Trenbolone is one of the most popular drugs used by bodybuilders today and, when you look at the stats, it is not hard to see why. A very potent androgen with strong anabolic activity, Trenbolone is an extremely effective hardening and cutting agent. In fact, it is considered indispensable when it comes to pre contest preparation. However, it is also extremely valuable in the off-season as it creates a rapid build up of strength and muscle mass. In fact, the anabolic effect is often compared to testosterone or Dianabol with one very important difference - it does not convert to estrogen. This is what truly sets it apart, as most mass building drugs readily aromatize, leading to many estrogen related problems (e.g. water retention gynecomastia).

Due to the lack of water retention, the gains when using this drug are more easily maintained on discontinuing its use. In addition to this, a very hard and defined appearance can be achieved. Also, since gynecomastia is not an issue, there should not be any need to add an anti-estrogen as long as Trenbolone is the only steroid being used.

Due to the highly androgenic nature of this drug an increase in the burning of body fat is observed and a much tighter physique can be achieved without having to resort to extreme dieting.




TRENBOLONE- POINTS OF INTEREST


•Trenbolone is more potent than testosterone with an effect being gauged as three times as strong on a milligram for milligram basis. It is also four times as anabolic as Deca Durabolin and ten times as androgenic. This makes the majority of the weight gained on this drug lean, quality muscle.
•Trenbolone also creates an increase in the levels of the hormone IGF-1 (Insulin like Growth Factor-1) which is highly anabolic within muscle tissue.
•Trenbolone has a stronger binding affinity to the androgen receptor than testosterone. This feature is a major contributing factor to the process of anabolism and fat loss.
•By promoting nitrogen retention and protein synthesis within the muscle Trenbolone allows the food you eat and the nutritional supplements you take to be used more effectively. It also reduces levels of the catabolic hormone cortisol.
•Trenbolone is also involved in the production of red blood cells and increases the rate of glycogen replenishment (both of which contribute not only to stamina but also to recovery from workouts)

SIDE EFFECTS

A reduction in aerobic capacity is the most common complaint with Trenbolone. This is thought to be caused by bronchial dilation resulting from an increase in prostaglandin production. The condition known as "Tren Cough" is often a complaint registered with users of the Acetate version (Trenbolone is available in Acetate and Enanthate forms). Androgenic side effects may also be experienced which include oily skin, aggressive behavior, and acne and hair loss. For this reason women are usually advised to stay away from this drug.



TRENBOLONE...THE WOMEN OF THE FORUM SPEAK OUT


It seems that although women are generally told to avoid using this drug, Trenbolone is being used more and more by women in controlled doses. The fact that it adds primarily lean mass whilst reducing body fat is obviously a key factor in its attractiveness. When women were asked for their feedback on Trenbolone use a variety of favored dosages came up. Anything from a very conservative 10mg every other day to a more adventurous 100mg/week split into two doses.

Stacking Trenbolone with Testosterone Propionate was also something favored by those engaging in high level competition.

Another use of Trenbolone involved taking it 3-4 days before a show in order to add hardness and definition to the physique.

It has to be said that side effects were experienced by all - usually increased hair growth and acne - and the severity of the side effects seemed to be worse in younger women. The theory expressed here being that ovarian function may be the reason for this, with a younger woman still having stronger ovarian function than an older women who may be entering peri-menopause.

This is all speculation of course but seems like a plausible explanation in my opinion.

Either way, if you are considering using Trenbolone it is advised to use it on its own and at extremely low doses (such as the aforementioned 10mg every other day) in order to test your own unique sensitivity.




TRENBOLONE....THE SISTER STEEL EVALUATION


Trenbolone is a potent androgen that is primarily used in cattle, so there is even less information at our disposal on this compound or its effects on the female endocrine system than any other drug. It is the one drug that seems to produce results as significant as the side effects that are associated with it. Women are generally advised to stay clear of Trenbolone considering the strong androgenic component which eradicates any possibility of running Trenbolone without sides. The more seasoned female athlete will run it in the off season in order to reap the muscle building benefits of the drug whilst maintaining a relatively low body fat. On the other hand running it during contest preparation will preserve the newly added muscle mass while on a calorie restricted diet. The less daring athlete will run Trenbolone during the last few weeks of contest preparation or even limit their use to the week before the show - with a more frequent injection schedule.

Women who have experienced less favorable side effects on Trenbolone report experiencing tachycardia from a single pin, accompanied by profuse night sweats and insomnia bad enough to bail on the cycle. Others experience rapid hair growth with more frequent shaving (side effects that are far from unmanageable).

Quite honestly, Trenbolone dosing is dependent on how much a woman is willing to deal with in terms of sides. There is no conservative dose for a first timer with Trenbolone being far better suited for the educated, experienced and seasoned athlete who has paid her dues.

It is also important to note that Trenbolone lowers TSH levels so running T3 in conjunction with it is highly advisable, as well as an anti-prolactin such as Dostinex at 0.5mg every third day or 5mg of Bromocriptine daily to keep prolactin levels in check.

Wow...obviously this guy has no clue on anything related to what Tren is. Is a very dangerous Drug and certainly not for woman. It will cause so many sides for a women. Following this guys advice would cause your woman to definitely look like a man in no time. Not to mention what it will do to her blood work. I thought that post was a joke for a minute...