leg training trouble

[intelligentmovement]

ok, so im into week 4 of my first var Cycle, at 10mg per day, also 1.5 I.U. HGH injections in A.M.
so far i LOVE it, getting great aesthetic results, B.F. dropping, while gaining weight, feeling stronger, able to push training harder.
i'm training legs aggressively, the rest of my body is well developed, legs are not small in compared to the rest, just lack definition.

no matter what i do i do not have muscle soreness in legs next day.
i'm doing sets of 12, 30-45sec rest, bring weight up as high as i can, then do drop sets. Leg press, squats, hamcurls, leg extension, stepping lunges with 20lb dumbells.
i train realy hard... to the almost puking stage, and get only very slightly sore in hams and glutes; NOTHING in Quads.
the legs seem to be shaping up, but the no soreness worries me.

would appreciate feedback
Thanks!
H

[alumni]

You should fight crime! you could be a super hero?

I use to get that way when I over trained, no more pain just adaptation. If you not getting bigger nor stronger this could be a possibilty?

[WorkoutBarbie]

My legs never get sore. You could try upping your weight a little bit. Legs are the strongest part of your body it takes a lot to make them sore. If your lacking definition why don't you try doing 20-30 reps, it will help you get more defintion without making your legs get much bigger.

[intelligentmovement]

Originally Posted by alumni

You should fight crime! you could be a super hero?

i knew It! LOL

thanks Alumni & WorkoutBarbie, your info makes me feel better.
and legs are changing in positive direction, its just the lack of soreness that had me worried. i will try to up the reps.
thanks guys

[g1234]

have you tried to change eccentric / isometric / concentric times ? Try doing squats or leg extensions with 6 seconds for the eccentric phase.. you will feel it the day after.

[intelligentmovement]

Originally Posted by g1234

have you tried to change eccentric / isometric / concentric times ? Try doing squats or leg extensions with 6 seconds for the eccentric phase.. you will feel it the day after.

great point.
i will try that today, and keep you posted

[intelligentmovement]

Originally Posted by g1234

have you tried to change eccentric / isometric / concentric times ? Try doing squats or leg extensions with 6 seconds for the eccentric phase.. you will feel it the day after.

great point.
i will try that today, and keep you posted

[Miss Muscle]

Don't worry about it. It's normal. Some people don't get soreness in the legs. Consider yourself lucky. If you've pushed yourself as hard as you can and don't get soreness that is a GOOD thing!

[newbie23]

straight leg deadlifts kill my hamstrings-and have also helped me separate a lil-try them-just keep those shoulders back-chest out-and dont lock the knees!!! im crying just thinking about them!!!

[newbie23]

P.S.

I have been doing your back stretch on the big medicine ball-and hip flexors everytime i stretch-love the ball!!!

[estray]

Soreness is not an indication of a good workout. And if youre looking to add any muscle to your legs, working in the 12 rep range is not a very effective way to do it, low reps and higher weight are the key. And alot of the definition you seek is gonna come from having lower bodyfat.

[intelligentmovement]

Originally Posted by newbie23

P.S.

I have been doing your back stretch on the big medicine ball-and hip flexors everytime i stretch-love the ball!!!

newbie your post made my day!
excellent!
prevention is the way to go!
that way we dont just look good, we feel good too!

[intelligentmovement]

Originally Posted by estray

Soreness is not an indication of a good workout. And if youre looking to add any muscle to your legs, working in the 12 rep range is not a very effective way to do it, low reps and higher weight are the key. And alot of the definition you seek is gonna come from having lower bodyfat.

Hi estray,
i'm working at 10 reps. i have increased the weights on all exercises.
i squat and leg press 2.5 plates on each side.
im 5'3'' mid first anavar cycle.
strarted cycle at 127lb 12% B.F.
now im at 130lbs 10% B.F.
arms abs and back are all showing very well, so are calves... but not upper leg.

i do not have the classical pear shape, no big fat deposits around hips and but... just no definition in compared to rest of body.

i am seeing a positive difference in lower body since i started cycle, but it is not up to par with rest of body

i'm working on it!
will bring up weights again on next leg day.

thanks for all the feedback

IM

[estray]

Originally Posted by intelligentmovement

Hi estray,
i'm working at 10 reps. i have increased the weights on all exercises.
i squat and leg press 2.5 plates on each side.
im 5'3'' mid first anavar cycle.
strarted cycle at 127lb 12% B.F.
now im at 130lbs 10% B.F.
arms abs and back are all showing very well, so are calves... but not upper leg.

i do not have the classical pear shape, no big fat deposits around hips and but... just no definition in compared to rest of body.

i am seeing a positive difference in lower body since i started cycle, but it is not up to par with rest of body

i'm working on it!
will bring up weights again on next leg day.

thanks for all the feedback

IM

10% at 130bs is pretty impressive. You must have some good size and veins everywhere. At that bodyfat you should be able to step on to almost any figure/fitness stage.

Sounds like you just need to add some muscle here and there to give them the shape you want. Heavy Squats and leg extension will give you the nice outer sweep on your vastus laterals(outer quad) and also that nice bulge on your Vastus Medialis(muscle right over your kneecap towards the inside.


Btw, my wife leg presses 6 plates a side for 8 reps so im sure you can kick it up a notch or 2.


Good luck and lift heavy

[intelligentmovement]

Originally Posted by estray

10% at 130bs is pretty impressive. You must have some good size and veins everywhere. At that bodyfat you should be able to step on to almost any figure/fitness stage.

Sounds like you just need to add some muscle here and there to give them the shape you want. Heavy Squats and leg extension will give you the nice outer sweep on your vastus laterals(outer quad) and also that nice bulge on your Vastus Medialis(muscle right over your kneecap towards the inside.


Btw, my wife leg presses 6 plates a side for 8 reps so im sure you can kick it up a notch or 2.


Good luck and lift heavy

holy CRAP 6 plates per side! yep i need to step it up!!! ... bet she doesnt have ANY issues with the way legs look

[estray]

Originally Posted by intelligentmovement

holy CRAP 6 plates per side! yep i need to step it up!!! ... bet she doesnt have ANY issues with the way legs look

She has beautiful legs, nice quad sweep and hard as a rock but theyre not gonna really pop until she gets her bodyfat down in the low teens. She Barbell squats 200+ lbs too for 8 reps, all the way to the ground. Thats whats given her the most success. Dont short stroke it when youre working legs, take the leg press all the way knees to the chest and squat till your butt is within 12 inches of the ground. Thats the best way to build your legs.

[intelligentmovement]

Originally Posted by estray

She has beautiful legs, nice quad sweep and hard as a rock but theyre not gonna really pop until she gets her bodyfat down in the low teens. She Barbell squats 200+ lbs too for 8 reps, all the way to the ground. Thats whats given her the most success. Dont short stroke it when youre working legs, take the leg press all the way knees to the chest and squat till your butt is within 12 inches of the ground. Thats the best way to build your legs.

hi estray, i upped the weight, and lowered the reps to 8, felt great!
i even had to go to 6reps to be able to go lower into squats.
i'm not at 6 plates for leg press yet
not even close...
but im working on it!