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Old 08-12-2009, 06:40 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question Estrogen Rebound.... is that what this is?

I took PrimaForce "Havoc" for 3 weeks... wasn't really seeing any side effects from it at all, good or bad. So I decided to stop taking it. 2 days passed and then last night my period started (which I just finished it the day before I started the Havoc...so I shouldn't be having another one). This period is much heavier than I typically experience... just came on really fast and "heavy." There are no craps, anything... just there. Is this normal? Will it just stop soon? Or should I go see a dr?
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I have no idea what primaforce havoc is. Is it a supplement? What is it supposed to do?
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Old 08-12-2009, 08:09 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Bodybuilding.com - PrimaForce Havoc - Hardcore! On sale now!

It's an anti estrogen, a designer steroid. May have been a bad choice in the first place, but I only use it for 3 weeks. I may just be over thinking it and it's simply my body trying to get back into homeostasis. It's just weird.
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This is a "pro-hormone". These are "supposed" to be safer than steroids but the reality is that alot of them are very potent and should be banned.

I don't know anything about this one in particular. I wouldn't know what it would do to you but I can almost guarantee this extra period is caused by it. This is probably way too potent for you.

Next time before putting something in your body do some more research.

I suggest you get off of it and taper down if you are on a high dose. Research it some more before you take it again.

I personally would suffer through this period and see what occurs over the next month. You will probably be alright. If this perioid doesn't stop than go see a doctor. I think you'll be fine though.
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Thanks Miss Muscle. I was on a really low dose, just 10mg per day, so I just quit cold turkey. (Which is what seems to have brought on this period)But, I probably should have looked into it more. I don't think I'll mess with anything other than Var/Clen again... just because people really know about that stuff and can recommend doses, cycles, etc. Where, when I ask about Havoc, no one has any clue.

Thanks again for your response, makes me feel better.
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Havoc is actually a designer steroid. Its very potent. they can sell it over the counter because it hasn't been yet specifically put on the conrtolled substance list. On paper its more anabolic mg for mg than anavar or winstrol. As well as a little more androgenic. In my experience its very safe for females to use, pretty similar to var, winstrol, turanabol. But its not an anti-estrogen like mentiuoned above. Anytime you put larger amounts of androgen into the female body whether it from havoc, var, or winstrol. The body will try to keep a certain ratio of androgen to estrogen. Which means if take any kind of a steroid is taken the estrogen level in the body will rise slowly and when the steroid is discontinued all you have left is elevated estrogen, progesterone, etc and that can cause a weird period that can be heavy and longer than normal. It just depends on the person but what you are experiencing is fairly normal, but everyone's experience will be different coming off.
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Havoc as in epistane is very very mild IMO
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