Increasing GF's Test levels before AAS

[Ukmuscle]

Me and my GF train together and are both aiming to compete. At the moment my GF is still natural, building the best base (Clean diet, eating every 3 hours, training hard and cardio to keep bf in order) before her first cycle which is 6 months away, the same for me. Is there any supplements that would help increase her test levels before her first cycle? which will be anavar only.

Thanks

[Miss Muscle]

Originally Posted by Ukmuscle

Me and my GF train together and are both aiming to compete. At the moment my GF is still natural, building the best base (Clean diet, eating every 3 hours, training hard and cardio to keep bf in order) before her first cycle which is 6 months away, the same for me. Is there any supplements that would help increase her test levels before her first cycle? which will be anavar only.

Thanks

I can't think of any of the top of my head.

There is a cream women can get from the doctor....usually prescribed for low sex drive which is test based but I can't remember much about it.

Here is a link that will give you some ideas...

Testosterone Boosting Supplements

[Ukmuscle]

Originally Posted by Miss Muscle

I can't think of any of the top of my head.

There is a cream women can get from the doctor....usually prescribed for low sex drive which is test based but I can't remember much about it.

Here is a link that will give you some ideas...

Testosterone Boosting Supplements

Thank you Missy! The 17 HD, 6 oxo and ZMA all look good for now.

Ross

[supergirl]

I don't know if it's still available but Twin Labs Male Fuel is a great product I have used over the years..
Women can also boost their levels with DHEA, Arginine and yohimbe.

I personally don't think ZMA works as a test increase as I have used that to help me sleep forever and a day and have not seen any increase in my test levels with that product alone...

Hope this helps
supes

[Ukmuscle]

Originally Posted by supergirl

I don't know if it's still available but Twin Labs Male Fuel is a great product I have used over the years..
Women can also boost their levels with DHEA, Arginine and yohimbe.

I personally don't think ZMA works as a test increase as I have used that to help me sleep forever and a day and have not seen any increase in my test levels with that product alone...

Hope this helps
supes

Thanks Supes, this does help!

Leanne (my GF) mentioned taking Yohimbe from what she had been reading, so it's good that you recommend it. What supps would contain DHEA, may seem stupid but I've just googled DHEA and I only got descriptions of it.

Thanks again Supes!

Ross

[Miss Muscle]

I know many prohormones contain DHEA but I don't know of any supplements.

Check this article out!

Restore Youthful Hormone Balance with DHEA Supplements - Life Extension

[Ukmuscle]

Originally Posted by Miss Muscle

I know many prohormones contain DHEA but I don't know of any supplements.

Check this article out!

Restore Youthful Hormone Balance with DHEA Supplements - Life Extension

Thanks Miss Muscle, Prohormones would be best, what prohormones contain DHEA that you know of?

Thanks,

Ross

[mikea]

i was thinkin about buying 7-keto DHEA for my wife. Thanx for the article!

[Ukmuscle]

Originally Posted by mikea

i was thinkin about buying 7-keto DHEA for my wife. Thanx for the article!

I'll have a look for 7-keto for my GF Mike. Thanks mate. It's a bit difficult; I know what will work for me, but not for her.

[Miss Muscle]

When using prohormones beware....some are potent and others are useless. I find women will get more out of them than men and sometimes will get unwanted side effects. Be very careful when going the prohormone route and be sure to research your compound thoroughly as well as the company it came from.

[bryn101]

U can get DHEA over the counter at most stores in USA. Vitamin Department.

[Ukmuscle]

Originally Posted by Miss Muscle

When using prohormones beware....some are potent and others are useless. I find women will get more out of them than men and sometimes will get unwanted side effects. Be very careful when going the prohormone route and be sure to research your compound thoroughly as well as the company it came from.

From what I've read, more research has been done about AAS than Pro hormones, making Pro hormones a risk especially with women because of the unwanted sides, because of the research carried out with AAS, women know what specific AAS to take in order to get the desired result they want, and what dosage; starting low and increasing in increments throughout the cycle. Do you know what compounds we would look for in a pro hormone for it to be suitable for Leanne?

[Miss Muscle]

Originally Posted by Ukmuscle

From what I've read, more research has been done about AAS than Pro hormones, making Pro hormones a risk especially with women because of the unwanted sides, because of the research carried out with AAS, women know what specific AAS to take in order to get the desired result they want, and what dosage; starting low and increasing in increments throughout the cycle. Do you know what compounds we would look for in a pro hormone for it to be suitable for Leanne?

I really don't know much about prohormones...I wish I could be more help!

[ValentineA]

Prohormone will make your gf body becomes bigger. Its depends with what is your girlfriend goals.
7keto dhea won't convert to real dhea in her body, it uses for fat burner. Check anadrox by mhp which containts 7keto dhea, it just fat burner. It won't play with the hormones levels in her body. Try arginen and L glutamine,from what I've read it can raise igf levels in human body.
Please do a lot of research before make a decission using any kinds of ph/ds

[Ukmuscle]

Originally Posted by Miss Muscle

I really don't know much about prohormones...I wish I could be more help!

Thank you Miss Muscle, you have been a fantastic help, we understand that little research has been carried out aout PH; to direct us to desired results. We will probably just plateau Leanne as best we can without PH, before she starts AAS.

[Ukmuscle]

Originally Posted by ValentineA

Prohormone will make your gf body becomes bigger. Its depends with what is your girlfriend goals.
7keto dhea won't convert to real dhea in her body, it uses for fat burner. Check anadrox by mhp which containts 7keto dhea, it just fat burner. It won't play with the hormones levels in her body. Try arginen and L glutamine,from what I've read it can raise igf levels in human body.
Please do a lot of research before make a decission using any kinds of ph/ds

My girlfriend is bulking; her goal is to add muscle, after that she will cut fats. She is looking for something to add size and help her muscles grow, not burn fat.

[ValentineA]

Originally Posted by Ukmuscle

My girlfriend is bulking; her goal is to add muscle, after that she will cut fats. She is looking for something to add size and help her muscles grow, not burn fat.

Prohormone and aas will make your girlfriend getting bigger. Ig she just want to add a little muscles aas isn't a good decision. Because I've already had some experience with ph or aas. I don't mean anything,just care. Always do a lot of research. Good luck.

[Miss Muscle]

Originally Posted by Ukmuscle

My girlfriend is bulking; her goal is to add muscle, after that she will cut fats. She is looking for something to add size and help her muscles grow, not burn fat.

I'm "bulking" right now even though I should be cutting..haha. I am making AWESOME gains just from eating eating eating lots of cals!

I am eating to much but the gains are addicting.

I will soon start a cutting cycle but tell her to eat eat eat!

[Ukmuscle]

Originally Posted by ValentineA

Prohormone and aas will make your girlfriend getting bigger. Ig she just want to add a little muscles aas isn't a good decision. Because I've already had some experience with ph or aas. I don't mean anything,just care. Always do a lot of research. Good luck.

Because she will be competing, she wants to add a lot of muscle, she is doing the best she can natural, AAS will be at least 6 months to a year yet. We know you don't mean anything and care, thank you.

[supergirl]

You can pick up DHEA at GNC:

GNC DHEA 25 - GNC - GNC

Prohormones can be very tricky.. Women can have some whacky reactions from them since they are not tested and researched the way aas are.. Personally if I had to choose between aas or prohormones, I would go with aas everytime.

Best of luck
supes

[Ukmuscle]

Originally Posted by supergirl

Prohormones can be very tricky.. Women can have some whacky reactions from them since they are not tested and researched the way aas are.. Personally if I had to choose between aas or prohormones, I would go with aas everytime.

Best of luck
supes

Thanks Supes, we have reached this conclusion ourselves; from the lack of guidance for females using Prohormones. Leanne will go with DHEA, Arginine and yohimbe -as you suggested earlier - to increase her Testosterone levels until she plateaus naturally. After that it will be AAS; Anavar twice a day at 2.5mg to begin, if no sides after two weeks then she will increase the dosage to 5mg twice a day.

Thanks for your help Supes!

Ross & Leanne

[supergirl]

Originally Posted by Ukmuscle

Thanks Supes, we have reached this conclusion ourselves; from the lack of guidance for females using Prohormones. Leanne will go with DHEA, Arginine and yohimbe -as you suggested earlier - to increase her Testosterone levels until she plateaus naturally. After that it will be AAS; Anavar twice a day at 2.5mg to begin, if no sides after two weeks then she will increase the dosage to 5mg twice a day.

Thanks for your help Supes!

Ross & Leanne

Sounds like a solid plan! Keep us posted.

The good thing with natural rather than prohormones is the sides are that much easier to control.. Her test levels should raise only slightly, yet enough to help her body develop some lean muscle and strength.
If she feels imbalanced, then she can always take some natural estrogen ie: soy isoflavones to rebalance her levels and bring up some estrogen.. but I think she will fine..
Best of luck! Glad to help

luv supes

[Ukmuscle]

Originally Posted by supergirl

Sounds like a solid plan! Keep us posted.

The good thing with natural rather than prohormones is the sides are that much easier to control.. Her test levels should raise only slightly, yet enough to help her body develop some lean muscle and strength.

Thanks Supes. This is all we are after before Leanne uses AAS; hopefully by doing it this way it should help her tolerate AAS better when she does use them, as her natural test hormone levels will be higher at that point and used to being raised. Would this supplement be beneficial for Leanne or a waste of time? Stumbled across it while searching for yohimbe supps:

TESTROGAIN® 1800mg 90 Tablets by Newton-Everett Biotech®

Thanks again Supes!

Luv Ross & Leanne

[Miss Muscle]

Originally Posted by Ukmuscle

Thanks Supes. This is all we are after before Leanne uses AAS; hopefully by doing it this way it should help her tolerate AAS better when she does use them, as her natural test hormone levels will be higher at that point and used to being raised. Would this supplement be beneficial for Leanne or a waste of time? Stumbled across it while searching for yohimbe supps:

TESTROGAIN® 1800mg 90 Tablets by Newton-Everett Biotech®

Thanks again Supes!

Luv Ross & Leanne

I looked at this product thoroughly.....it actually looks good BUT the directions say not for use in children or women.

So I am guessing it is a bit strong for females. You could take a chance and take a small dose and see what occurs.

[Ukmuscle]

Originally Posted by Miss Muscle

I looked at this product thoroughly.....it actually looks good BUT the directions say not for use in children or women.

So I am guessing it is a bit strong for females. You could take a chance and take a small dose and see what occurs.

Thanks Miss Muscle!


We'll start low and see how she goes.