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Old 08-18-2008, 05:55 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Exclamation Var Starting First Time Any Advice for this lovely lad?

I AM 29 5'2" 114 LBS AND HAVE ALWAYS BEEN IN GOOD HEALTH. I LOVE WORKING OUT AND LOVE WEIGHT TRAINING AND CARDIO. I BUILD MUSCLE VERY FAST AND HAVE GREAT MUSCLE MEMORY SINCE I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN ATHLETIC AND ACTIVE. BUT THIS LAST YEAR HAS BEEN ROUGH BECAUSE MY METABOLISM AS I AM AGING SEEMS TO BE SLOWING DOWN GRANTED I STILL EAT WHAT I WANT AND AM NOT A FAT ASS. BUT I WANT TO GET INTO THE BEST SHAPE OF MY LIFE. I HAVE 10MG CAPSULES OF VAR AND I AM CURRENTLY BACK IN THE GYM AND ON A CLEAN DIET. WHAT WOULD YOU RECCOMEND DOSAGE PER DAY FOR ME.LIKE I SAID I HAVE CAPS SO I WOULD HAVE TO SPILT THEM IF NECESSARY. ALSO HOW DO I SPILT MANUALLY I HEAR THIS CAN NOT BE SO EFECTIVE BUT CAN DO. I AM A FIRST TIMMER AND DONT WANT TO GO OVER BOARD. WOULD RATHER START OUT SLOW THEN BUILD. ANY ADVICE GUYS!!!
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Week 1:
5mg per day

Day: 3-7
gauge sides

Week 2: if no sides are noted:
go up to 10mg

You can go up to 15mg and 20mg, but 20 is the most I've ever seen a girl do. U don't want to do too much, start small.

at your size and weight, you'll probably b g2g (good 2 go) at 10mg.

post your results, with good diet and workout habits you should see some awesome results.

SIDES:
#1. water retention <---typical, keep sodium low, and diet clean,
#2. possible voice deepening,
#3. possible clit enlargement <--rare, only if you take too much too long.

others will chime in with more angles of advice

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Old 08-22-2008, 02:55 PM   #3 (permalink)
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thank You So Much For The Great Advice! I Really Appreciate It!
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i too just started this past sunday so today is my 6 day on var. i am taking 5mg in morning and 5mg at night for a total of 10mg. i am 5-8 on the slim side. i want to put some muscle tone on and loose the fab that's started to come on over the past few years. i took some pics before i started so i can see the results when i am done. how long should my cycle be? am i taking enough? i feel great so far with no sides but its still early i guess. i been watching my diet and keeping sodium low and fats down. any help would be great because i am new and need help. also if i take protein shake would that help put muscle on faster?
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Old 08-24-2008, 11:54 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I wish someone would be able to answer my questions.
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hey ark
10 mg is enough
8 weeks is usually long enough.
what is your workout like?
what is your diet like? -yes protein shakes will help, but how much protein are you taking?

so your 5'8"
how much do you weigh?
what is your workout history?
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Old 08-25-2008, 01:24 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I lift weights and cardo. Most of my workouts i will do my whole body for 40 min or so using free weights but mostly machines. Before i start my workouts i do treadmill or some sort of machine for the cardo. Do i need to up the dosage at some point? i only have enough for 7 weeks though if i stick with 10mg a day. I weight is 140 lbs right now. I want to get down to 125. (I used to have a sexy bod and i want it back!) I used to look like the girl in your profile pic there haha. Well I been eating low carb and high protein. I stated taking soy powered protein from health store. also i have no sides at all and its been a full week at 10mg. How many weeks until sides usually show?? what sides may i get at 10mg? this is my first time taking any type of steroids. Also how long until i start to see changes in my body on average??? Sorry for the questions.

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I lift weights and cardo. Most of my workouts i will do my whole body for 40 min or so using free weights but mostly machines. Before i start my workouts i do treadmill or some sort of machine for the cardo. Do you squat? I don't want to get to complicated with workout stuff, but workout hard, and try to get progressively stronger

Do i need to up the dosage at some point? i only have enough for 7 weeks though if i stick with 10mg a day. That is perfect, 10mg at 7 weeks, you should get results.

I weight is 140 lbs right now. I want to get down to 125. (I used to have a sexy bod and i want it back!) I used to look like the girl in your profile pic there haha. Stay consistent, you will get results over time.

Well I been eating low carb and high protein. I stated taking soy powered protein from health store. How many calories are you consuming per day? What is your carb/pro/fat breakdown?

also i have no sides at all and its been a full week at 10mg. that is good, but doesn't mean you need to take more.

How many weeks until sides usually show?? it depends, Usually for women, the longer you take steroids, the more sides show, and the MORE you take will effect the sides.

what sides may i get at 10mg? SIDES:
#1. water retention <---typical, keep sodium low, and diet clean,
#2. possible voice deepening,
#3. possible clit enlargement <--rare, only if you take too much too long.



this is my first time taking any type of steroids. Also how long until i start to see changes in my body on average??? should be able to see changes weekly. Changes will be either: strength gains or weight loss, and as you get deeper in the cycle, BF reduction.

Sorry for the questions.
keep asking, and keep us updated. We all love to see the questions and we all LOVE to see people reach there goals. Post before and after pics, i'll be posting mine in my thread when i'm done with my 4 weeks.

here is the link to my log

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Old 08-25-2008, 08:22 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Thank you get "getfitdoc" you ask me how many calories am I consuming per day and carb/pro/fat breakdown. i dont have a clue on how to figure that out but i am trying to eat more protein then carbs. yes i do squat but not they way most men do it. i hold a 20 lbs dumbell on my chest haha and then i squat up and down with that. I also like to do the sled which i try and go deep so it builds my butt up lol.

Another question I have.. If my voice begins to deepen will that go away when finish my cycle? also if I get clit enlargement like you said could happen. will that return to normal too when i finish my cycle?

Please let me know "getfitdoc"

I would also love to here from supergirl because she has experience on the female side.
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Thank you get "getfitdoc" you ask me how many calories am I consuming per day and carb/pro/fat breakdown. i dont have a clue on how to figure that out but i am trying to eat more protein then carbs. yes i do squat but not they way most men do it. i hold a 20 lbs dumbell on my chest haha and then i squat up and down with that. I also like to do the sled which i try and go deep so it builds my butt up lol.

Another question I have.. If my voice begins to deepen will that go away when finish my cycle? also if I get clit enlargement like you said could happen. will that return to normal too when i finish my cycle?

Please let me know "getfitdoc"

I would also love to here from supergirl because she has experience on the female side.
i didn't see ur last ?'s

unfortunately sides for women are pretty much Irreversible.

if your voice starts getting scratchy, that is a sign u should hold off.

clit enlargement is also irreversible.

the key is to start with a small amount and see how you tolerate the sides.

ya, im sure one of the female mods will step in here and give even better answers than i have given, but i hope i've helped you

good luck reaching ur goals, and keep working hard and asking ?'s
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really the sides for a women are irreverible!! my voice is fine but the other issue is happening. i am starting to get really great results so i dont want to stop and if its irreversible then whats the point in stopping now. i feel it would be a total waste of time. plus money wasted on the anavar. also my diet has been amazing. i cut out all fats and added lots of protein and i stop drinking. im loosing weight and getting fit. you can see my delts coming out. my legs are getting tight and tone. let me ask is that why my sex drive shot way up due to clit enlargement?? my boyfriend likes the high sex drive but lately i have been out of control. i feel like i need two boyfriends to help out. after reading some other threads by other women i wonder if i should have started at lower dose since it was my very first time. well its to late to go back now. i guess i should have research more before i just jump in. also is the pills 5mg or 10mg? i been taking 2 pills a day for total of 10mg but wondering if my pills are 10mg and not 5mg which would be 20mg a day. if thats the case then i will stay at that dose. but maybe thats why my sex drive is out of control. can 10mg a day do that to your sex drive?
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take a pic of your pills, post them in Anabolic Steroids Picture Forum - Anabolic Steroids, Bodybuilding Discussion Forums - Steroidology

send a PM to supergirl
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sorry i was on vacation, just saw your post today
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really the sides for a women are irreverible!! my voice is fine but the other issue is happening. i am starting to get really great results so i dont want to stop and if its irreversible then whats the point in stopping now. i feel it would be a total waste of time. plus money wasted on the anavar. also my diet has been amazing. i cut out all fats and added lots of protein and i stop drinking. im loosing weight and getting fit. you can see my delts coming out. my legs are getting tight and tone.
Good, sounds awesome!

let me ask is that why my sex drive shot way up due to clit enlargement??
I don't think so

my boyfriend likes the high sex drive but lately i have been out of control. i feel like i need two boyfriends to help out.
He's lucky

after reading some other threads by other women i wonder if i should have started at lower dose since it was my very first time.
Probably

well its to late to go back now.
If you stop taking Var, the enlargement will stop.

i guess i should have research more before i just jump in.
Yes!

also is the pills 5mg or 10mg?
Take a picture of the pills you have, and post them in the forum i linked you to above. We can't tell you what type of pill they are unless we see them.

i been taking 2 pills a day for total of 10mg but wondering if my pills are 10mg and not 5mg which would be 20mg a day. if thats the case then i will stay at that dose. but maybe thats why my sex drive is out of control.
Ya it's very important to know how many mg's your pills are.

can 10mg a day do that to your sex drive?
I think it can. But everyone is different.
again, send a pm to supergirl about the enlargement issue, she will know more about it than I.

I hope this helps,
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i find out what the mg where but will the clit enlargement go down when i am finished. i dont mind the enlargement but is it something that turns men off??
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i find out what the mg where but will the clit enlargement go down when i am finished. i dont mind the enlargement but is it something that turns men off??
how much enlargement are we talking about? I mean if it looks to big, then ya, it may turn guys off, but a little enlargement wouldn't bother me...

as long as you don't mind it, it's probably not that bad.
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no its not much but its early still so i am sure it may get bigger. if it does i will put an earring in it haha. i dont really care too much but i dont want to scare men away. i dont know if i will marry the guy i am with so i want to make sure i am all good below.... plus i am still young.
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