Question about 1st cycle

[Veny]

Hello,

I'm new to the board so I'd just like to say hello to everyone.
I'm 5'9", 165 lbs, bf around 18%, started to train slighly 3 years ago, but nothing serious at that time. I'm quite gifted, I have no problems with mass gain, that's why when people in the gym started to ask me if I start in competitions I started to think about this seriously.
I consider to do the first cycle to reduce my bf and gain better muscle definition, I don't really need more mass.
Of course the 1st & 2nd thing will be the diet and training, the cycle must just boost it up...
I was thinking about running 12,5 T3 ed...I don't want to take higher dosage to block my endo levels. But do you think in this case 12,5 will do any good, or is it better to stick to something else? I'm confused, as there are different opinions, some of them claiming it's a great stuff and others that it's the worst shit on earth. On the other hand I don't want to use clen, as sometimes I have problems with sleeping even after too much coffein.
The second thing will be anavar. What dose would you recommend? I consider going on 10-15 ed.
So it would look like this:
1 week - T3 6,5 ED
2-5 week T3 12,5 ED
6 week 6,5 ED
and 1-6 var 10-15 ed
Thermogenics, diet, cardio and free weights training will be priority.
What do you think about that?

Cheers,
Andrea

[irongirl]

t3 is a bad idea alone. its too catabolic to run w/o AS. if you just want to reduce BF why not just diet and cardio? you dont need AS to get leaner.

[destinfl]

how would you dose, clen, anavar and T3?
clen- do you go 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off and the same with T3 and continue anavar. or all 3 at the same time. I am getting conflicting advice. I am healthy cant recall ever being sick. I'm not worried about sterilazation from taking anything, I have had a complete hysterctomy in mid 20's which I learned I was misdiagnosed. I am 5'3 128 I have thin arms and legs but can't get rid of the pudge around the waist and obliques. I do cardio 5 x a week and weight train 5X per week. I eat clean and drink lots of water. I want to build muscle but lose the gut and butt.. any advice on how to take the 3?

[Miss Perfection]

Andrea,

T3 is for people with who have hypothyroidism. If your thyroid is healthy and you are going to take T3 to lose weight, you could become very ill. The dose you suggest taking 12,5 mcg, is the dose I get on a dr's prescription for having a severely bad functioning thyroid.
My prediction is, it could make you shiverery, nervous, unable to sleep and might even result in a nervous breakdown.

And yes, stay clear of Clenbuterol. It's the most awful rubish I ever took. I really regret it. It made me puke up for days on end, my body was trembling all over.

Adding Anavar is unlogical: you could rapidly gain the weight you are so desperately trying to lose.

Just a word of advice. Listen to Irongirl. Cardio & diet is the best way to go.

Maria

By the way: I don't know any steroids which will cause weight loss for women. On the contrary: steroids are often given to people with immune diffiency diseases such as HIV/Aids to make them gain weight.

[BADKITTY]

i hate to be the one who plays devil's advocate here, but var is a pretty solid choice for a cutting cycle IMO. there are tons of women and competitors that i know who have had spectacular cutting cycles while adding var.

i remember for a fact that Supergirl came down from the mid 150's to 120lbs for a photo shoot using nothing but a very strict diet and a good dose of anavar, and she came in absolutely shredded, with no water. in her case, she didn't even do any cardio, but then again every woman is different, and supes has a lot of diet dedication (much more so than me )
some women love var, some hate it. that's why you post on a board, right? to get opinions and experiences.

my only advice would be to examine some variables. start by playing with your diet. get with a competition coach and see how your body reacts to diet alone. then see what adding in some cardio will do. don't try to change everything at once, else how will you know what works? gear should be the last addition after you reach a plateau. if you are "gifted" as you say, then you may not need aas to preserve muscle while dieting.

i would encourage you to keep a journal on here, and chart your progress based on diet alone, cardio alone, etc. see how far you can get without aas, and surround yourself with knowledgeable people who can help you get dialed in.


please, please keep posting, and let others learn from your experience!
~KITTY