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NEEDSIZE.....
What advice did you say to do when reaching a plateau? I can't seem to find it on here anywhere, but I remember that it was something like switch to 5x3, then 3x5, and finally back to 5x5, but I don't remember what you said about weights. Should I increase the weight to something that I can only get for 5 sets of 3 and then drop back down to the weight that I originally plateaued(sp?) at for the 5x5 and resume with the systematic increases? Or just drop back down like 15 pounds and work back up to and past the original sticking point? This is really disheartening for me, because I've managed to plateau on all my 5x5 lifts in the last 2 weeks. (Diet and sleep situation are better than normal too, thats what's weird.) Thanks for the help.
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12-12-2003, 11:55 AM
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could someone repost the link. original doesn't work
thanks.
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12-12-2003, 07:14 PM
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repost link
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12-14-2003, 11:33 AM
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repost link...
i cannot see
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12-18-2003, 09:06 AM
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please repost.............the link does not work
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12-25-2003, 02:28 PM
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Repost please..i am interested..and hello everyone. 
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12-29-2003, 01:41 AM
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12-30-2003, 05:29 PM
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Ok gonna give this a try so need some feed back, after picking out exercise,s i know work for me, and also knowing the recovery time i need between workouts
this is wot i have came up with.
The programme is split as follows: -
Mon – Back/Shoulders/Traps
Tue – Rest
Wed – Chest/Triceps
Thu – Rest
Fri – Legs/Biceps
Sat – Rest
Sun - Rest
Monday (Back/Shoulders)
1) Deadlift – 5x5
2) Chins – 2x8
3) BB Row– 2x8
4) BB front press – 5x5
6) Side lateral raises – 2x 8-10
7) BB Shrugs – 2x 6-8
Wednesday (Chest/Triceps)
1) Flat Bench – 5x5
2) Incline Dumbell Press – 2x8
3) Incline Flyes – 2x8
4) Skull Crushers – 5x5
5) Cable push down – 2x8*
6) Machine Dips – 2x8*
*Do #5 or #6 @ alternate workouts
Friday (Legs/Biceps)
1) Squat – 5x5
2) SLDL – 2x8
3) Hack Squat – 2x8
4) Sitting Calf Raise – 5x15
5) BB Curls – 5x5
6) Hammer Curl 2x 8 **
7) Preacher Curl 2x 8**
**Do #6 or #7 @ alternate workouts
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12-30-2003, 07:48 PM
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Well here is something I found while searching around.. I wonder if this is the same thing...??
LINK
And here is another that Needsize gave to me via a PM..
New 5x5
Thanks Bro!
Last edited by Ken; 12-31-2003 at 08:03 PM.
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01-07-2004, 02:02 PM
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ns you listed your day 5 routine like ths and i was wondering is that the order you do the exercises in or do u do all bis then all tris. thanks
day 5 bis/tris
close grip bench 5x5
standing barbell curls 5x5
weighted dips 2x8-10
incline dumbell curls 2x8-10
skull crushers 2x8-10
preacher curls 2x8-10
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01-09-2004, 08:11 PM
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whenever i try to go to elite anymore, it gives me a page not found error, anybody know this?
anyway- because i cant get there, it says page not found, could you post your 5x5 somewhere else?
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01-10-2004, 05:08 AM
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01-11-2004, 09:33 PM
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What is the 5x5 routine?
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01-12-2004, 12:32 AM
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Go back to the first coupla pages. Somebody copied and pasted needsize's original posts.....or, go to www.elitefitness.com/forums and look at the training section, there is a sticky w/the 5x5 program.
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"Let them hate, so long as they fear." -- Caesar Gaius Caligula
It ain’t the years that I’ve known that have taken their toll,
’cause they’ve been few.
If you took all the mashin’s, the draggin’s and the crashin’s,
You’d probably look the same way I do.
It’s the million miles of road, and gettin’ snatched around and throwed,
That finally put the cramp in my style.
It ain’t the years boy...it’s the miles. -- Chris Ledoux
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01-15-2004, 06:26 PM
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NeedSize and HornedFrogsAT.. spreading joy and happiness to everyone
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01-16-2004, 12:49 AM
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the old post on elite got erased, but heres a link to the new one
5x5 link
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01-16-2004, 01:02 PM
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Quote:
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NeedSize and HornedFrogsAT.. spreading joy and happiness to everyone
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What do you mean by that? I'm not an expert by any means, I just like to help.
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"Let them hate, so long as they fear." -- Caesar Gaius Caligula
It ain’t the years that I’ve known that have taken their toll,
’cause they’ve been few.
If you took all the mashin’s, the draggin’s and the crashin’s,
You’d probably look the same way I do.
It’s the million miles of road, and gettin’ snatched around and throwed,
That finally put the cramp in my style.
It ain’t the years boy...it’s the miles. -- Chris Ledoux
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01-16-2004, 06:34 PM
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i ment both of you are helping a lot of people out and spreading the joyfulness of knowledge.. lol.. ok i'll stop
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01-16-2004, 10:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Paladin
i ment both of you are helping a lot of people out and spreading the joyfulness of knowledge.. lol.. ok i'll stop
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Ah, thank you. I'm just used to people flaming all the time on the conversation lounge. sorry for getting all defensive.
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"Let them hate, so long as they fear." -- Caesar Gaius Caligula
It ain’t the years that I’ve known that have taken their toll,
’cause they’ve been few.
If you took all the mashin’s, the draggin’s and the crashin’s,
You’d probably look the same way I do.
It’s the million miles of road, and gettin’ snatched around and throwed,
That finally put the cramp in my style.
It ain’t the years boy...it’s the miles. -- Chris Ledoux
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01-18-2004, 05:39 PM
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Hey gang, i am new, and i have two question.
1) Out of all the excercises, how do you know which one gets the 5x5?
For example, if one does:
Flat Bench press
Incline bench press
DB flys
Decline bench press ....(this is not my routine, but this is just an example so i can understand)
how do you know which one of those excercises get the 5x5, and which one get the 2x8?
And that question goes to all other muscles..how do you know which one gets which? Can 5x5 be done on two diffrent excercises for the same muscle? or only 1 of the excercises?
2) When can one truly say "Ok, i have hit a plateau"? After how many weeks of doing the same weight of 5x5? After 2 weeks? 3 weeks? 5 weeks?...
This should clear things up and i can start my 5x5.
Thank you very much..and hello again to all the members..i am looking forward to share some pics with you soon and learning!
Fadi
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01-20-2004, 05:37 PM
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fadi, I'll try and get all your questions
The compound exercise should get the 5x5, if you have two like flat bench and incline, go for the one you use the most weight on, so flat bench.
Only do 5x5 for one exercise for each muscle group, here are the ones I use.
Standing barbell curls
close grip bench press
military press
deadlift
squat
bench press
As for plateaus, play it by ear, but if you cant move up for 203 weeks, then its probably time to switch
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01-20-2004, 05:59 PM
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I did 5*5 last night for chest, on flat bench...question, where should the muscle fatigue start to come in, i ran my fir 3 sets a345 no issues, 4th set at 345 ok, last reps a bit slower, and 5th set was slower, and a bit of struggle on last 2, but no help needed...
this is new to me since i generally run a 10(225),6(335),3(365),2(385),1(430),1(430),3(365), 2(385),1(430), type routine since i train for power i guess......i finish at 430 on the above...
so i am trying to gauge where i need to be to grow...
any help?
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01-20-2004, 09:04 PM
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i started the 5X5 four weeks ago maxing 145, today i was just messin around put up 140 3 times. i think its def. working. i was stuck at 145 for like 2 months now im probly past it.
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01-20-2004, 10:07 PM
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eastarr69, generally when you start the routine, you want the first few weeks to go easy
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01-20-2004, 11:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by needsize
fadi, I'll try and get all your questions
The compound exercise should get the 5x5, if you have two like flat bench and incline, go for the one you use the most weight on, so flat bench.
Only do 5x5 for one exercise for each muscle group, here are the ones I use.
Standing barbell curls
close grip bench press
military press
deadlift
squat
bench press
As for plateaus, play it by ear, but if you cant move up for 203 weeks, then its probably time to switch
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thanks buddy...203 weeks??  
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