Cardio immediatly after weight training?

[Diced]

but sir r u natty ?

[DaHurt]

but sir r u natty ?

I was up until recently - and I grew continually. I would train with weights BEFORE football/track practice when I was younger, and in one year I put on about 40 lbs completely natural.

Glycogen depletion has little to do with later growth, as long as you replenish stores.

[brother bundy]

Ok once again it varies from person to person . Im talking about the NORM here . Weight training puts the body under enormous amount of stress ( if done correctly) glycogen should be completely depleated thier for adding cardio to an already strenuous session will without a doubt cause you to loose mass aswell as fat if u r natty ok thier is a few freaks out thier with great genetics who could hop around on one leg with a dumbell in thier hand and still put on size but unfortunetly gentlemen thats not the vast majority of us. believe what u want i no that if i perform cardio after a weight training session i loose weight and if i perform it before( not a warmup ) my resistance training is hindered without a doubt . put it this way pros who have all sorts of chemicals enhanching thier performance running through them will do cardio and weights atleast 6 hours apart. If ur nat and u wanna loose weight go for it if u wanna retain or put on size no .

how do you explain football players or spinters .There all jacked and day do cardio like crazy.Doing cardio before weights to me make no sence cause i wanna burn fat during cardio.You engine does even start burning fat till like 20 mins into that cardio session.Now if u do it after wieght 100%fat burning and u wont burn muscle.my opinion

[Diced]

Dahurt i wasnt asking u if u were natty i was asking the gentlemen above you. albundy i cannot understand you, im not qiet sure what ur trying to make out thier : /

[alphamale_devon]

how do you explain football players or spinters .There all jacked and day do cardio like crazy.Doing cardio before weights to me make no sence cause i wanna burn fat during cardio.You engine does even start burning fat till like 20 mins into that cardio session.Now if u do it after wieght 100%fat burning and u wont burn muscle.my opinion

I said it before, cardio after a weight session is the way to go. Intake a protein shake before cardio session after training lol.

[Diced]

strong disagree , but hay at the end of the day its ur choice fellas ^

[DaHurt]

Dahurt i wasnt asking u if u were natty i was asking the gentlemen above you. albundy i cannot understand you, im not qiet sure what ur trying to make out thier : /

I know but if a principle is applicable across all of human physiology, then it doesn't matter who answered.

So yes I gained like crazy doing cardio after weight training, and yes I was natural, therefore depletion of intramuscular glycogen stores prior to cardiovascular training had little effect on my ability to gain.

Last time I checked I was human so it is in direct opposition to what you said.

[Diced]

hmm agree, however u may be geneitcally gifted NORMs cannot and should not perform cardio around their weight training schedules regardless it will eat into ur lbm aswell as fat . conversation finished on my part

[BigPal]

IMO if you have enough energy left to do 30-45mins of cardio after weightlifting then you're doing it wrong.

Ill have to agree with this.
My brother in law is a personal trainer for athletes looking to increase speed and strength (dallas Cowboys) and up at there gym they always preach, Cardio before lifting.

just my 2 cents.

[dy595959]

I can NOT do cardio after. Tried it and it is like worthless worthless effort because I am beat down so I do it 20 min before. Seems good to me

[Diced]

cardio before lifting is fine provided its done at a slow pace personally i prefure dynamic streches .

[Alert/10]

I usually do cardio after lifting but usually with around a 30 min break in between

I like to keep my run time competitive and this way seems to work for me

[Diced]

[Kreiger]

I'd have to agree with Diced above.

But as an individual, I have been a natty for a long time and at the moment I still am.

And, when I was interested in losing fat, I'd pour my heart and soul into the weights first and then finish-up with 10-15 min of low-intensity, steady state cardio just to insure that the carb stores were entirely completed. And, if I wasn't feeling it by the time I started cardio, I surely felt it when I either finished cardio or started to stretch.

Now, apart from the 10-15min post workout cardio I had the following scheme: 2 days of weight training followed by 1 day of cardio and abs, back to 2 days of training etc... Now the cardio/abs days, I'd do HIIT cardio after the abs were trained. That 2:1 training schedule in combo with diet worked very well for me.

[darkside06]

It has been proven that if ur a natty bb, U should not do cardio and weights together thier should be a minimum of 6 hours beetween . doing them together will send u into a catabolic state .

All I have to say to this......bullshit! Proven where? it some Muscle & Fitness article?

End of story gentlemen do ur research . U will find that ur body has 2 active switches one for aerobic style training and one for resistance training . I would not recommend doing them together bar a slight hill walk or 10 minutes on the xtrainer before u train unless ur on cycle thats a whole other story. But as i stated above if ur natty resistance training is more then enough to completely deplete ur muscles of glycogen u need to restore it asap( get into the locker rooms and have a white bagel ) forget about cardio i mean if ur trying to loose weight and u dont care about retaining LBM then by all means go for it .

It all depends on what your goals are. if you're cutting then cardio after weights is the perfect time. You already burned through your carbs as an energy source and your body is in the perfect fat burning zone providing your cardio is not too high and intense.

20 minutes of low to moderate cardio right after weights is perfect for burning fat.

Ok once again it varies from person to person . Im talking about the NORM here . Weight training puts the body under enormous amount of stress ( if done correctly) glycogen should be completely depleated thier for adding cardio to an already strenuous session will without a doubt cause you to loose mass aswell as fat if u r natty ok thier is a few freaks out thier with great genetics who could hop around on one leg with a dumbell in thier hand and still put on size but unfortunetly gentlemen thats not the vast majority of us. believe what u want i no that if i perform cardio after a weight training session i loose weight and if i perform it before( not a warmup ) my resistance training is hindered without a doubt . put it this way pros who have all sorts of chemicals enhanching thier performance running through them will do cardio and weights atleast 6 hours apart. If ur nat and u wanna loose weight go for it if u wanna retain or put on size no .

um....you're kinda contadicting yourself here.

I don't agree with this. Cardio after weights is perfect, weight training releases gycolon spelling, and the cardio Burns it off. Hence weights then Cardio everytime

Here's your winner.

[D-Cal]

Love me some cardio after hitting weights

[max_payne]

yeah i do it after weight training 20-40 mins...20 in the offseason and mostly 30 when dieting.

[pirovoliko]

Ive done alot of research about this and the VAST majority of the literature on the subject greatly favors cardio AFTER lifting for several good reasons (do your own research and discover them). This is of course assuming youre interested in building and maintaining lean muscle mass while dropping fat. The alternative is of course to do cardio on off days.

The real debate seems to be between Low intensity vs HIIT. Again lots of research points to low intensity after workouts (anywhere from 25 mins to an hour since you need to gear up to the fat burning zone and this is only aided by immediately prior lifting). HIIT is recommended on off days since it supports cerain hormonal changes.

Personally I do two or three sessions of low intensity (rowing) postworkout each week with one or two sessions of HIIT on my off days. Works great for my goals of building muscle and maintaining it while losing fat rapidly.

The scenario is different if you are purely interested in dropping fat or becoming a cardio/fitness beast and building mass is not a concern.