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    bigger legs means bigger arms
    recently i came across an article stating that the bigger your thighs are, the bigger your arms will be, the article said it has been proven but do u guys agree?

    does massive legs mean massive arms?

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    I am not sure about the bigger your thighs = the bigger your arms But I do know they say if you want to grow bigger arms you have to squat and deadlift.

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    Working your legs releases natural test levels that's stored in your legs so it might not = bigger arms but perhaps it makes bigger arms more possible with the proper training & diet

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    natural test levels stored in your legs? testosterone stored in the legs? i would love to see a reference to this. not being a dick to you, i just gotta see what you are citing to believe

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    working a large muscle group like the legs triggers an anbolic response, therefore helping all muscle groups. dont know about the whole test storage thing tho. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by lcgator View Post
    working a large muscle group like the legs triggers an anbolic response, therefore helping all muscle groups. dont know about the whole test storage thing tho. lol
    More or less correct

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    Quote Originally Posted by Massive123 View Post
    Working your legs releases natural test levels that's stored in your legs so it might not = bigger arms but perhaps it makes bigger arms more possible with the proper training & diet
    not stored.. but i know what he meant

    when you train lower body.. such as store squats it triggers a natural response for your body to increase test production.

    thats what i read.. im sure google can help us

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    Quote Originally Posted by MassMonster86 View Post
    not stored.. but i know what he meant

    when you train lower body.. such as store squats it triggers a natural response for your body to increase test production.

    thats what i read.. im sure google can help us
    So if your not training natty does it even matter?

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    The gyms are filled with young boys with arms bigger than their legs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MassMonster86 View Post
    not stored.. but i know what he meant

    when you train lower body.. such as store squats it triggers a natural response for your body to increase test production.

    thats what i read.. im sure google can help us
    Thanks man. Glad someone hear knows what I'm talking about. I didn't mean store per se as in it's located IN your legs. It would be cool if more people actually used google or researched responses before talking shit. Especially when what was said is correct. Excuse me if it wasn't worded perfectly as science might show.

    For the record I wouldn't say some stupid shit like many do around here without having some kind of knowledge on the topic. Here's your study.



    Squats / Deadlifts and Release of Testosterone and Growth Hormone
    October 7th, 2007 by Paul Johnson


    In bodybuilding forums, youíll constantly see bodybuilders tell each other to work on their legs, mainly with squats and deadlift excercises. Most beginner bodybuilders hate working legs and look for an excuse to not work them. They are told it helps release testosterone, growth hormone, and will increase overall body muscle mass. Is there studies that support all these claims?

    Testosterone and GH levels after squats & deadlifts:

    Resistance training in general, increases testosterone and growth hormone, during and immediately after post excercise. It has been shown in many studies, including a published study Int J Sports Med. 1991 Apr;12(2):228-35 done on both men and women during resistance excercise. Squats and deadlifts increase GH and Testosterone, more than other compound excercises during excercise.

    There is however, no significant studies that show that resistance excercise, directly leads to higher hormone levels long term. In fact, for a day or 2 post-excercise, many studies show LH and testosterone decline, while cortisol increases. In other words, building yourself up to a 200 lb ripped bodybuilder doesnít directly increase your testosterone levels, from when you were smaller. But you might though have higher testosterone levels, due to better eating, supplementation, and working out, as a result of the bodybuilding lifestyle. The increased cortisol levels and lower testosterone, is also why overtraining is such an easy state to enter. We have to allow our body to recuperate itself, before doing more weight lifting.

    Long term effects from squatting and deadlifting:

    The benefit for doing leg excercises, appears from research not to be from increasing long term natural levels of testosterone and GH. I believe however the large burst of testosterone and other hormones during leg excercises, are the major reasons why squats and deadlifts are very important for overall muscle building. Itís the same reason why a bench press is more effective mass builder than a chest flye workout. Why? because the compound bench press is going to release more testosterone and GH in a workout than a chest flye.

    The large burst of anabolic hormones resulting from squats and deadlifts, allows most of your muscles to benefit from this release simultaneously. Squats and deadlifts work many muscles simultaneously in the body and will allow most of your body to get some stimulation from the release of the hormones during the workout. The testosterone and GH released, is very crucial for being a catalyst for your muscle growth. It wonít be released as much in the smaller compound excercises, such as bench press. Therefore doing smaller compound excercises, would not be able to makeup for the benefit of having leg workouts in your routine.

    Most experienced bodybuilders know all too well, how important leg excercises are for overall mass. Youíve probably seen the guys walking in the gym who look like lightbulbs (big upper body, but chicken legs). That has made many bodybuilders question the idea that leg excercises always equals bigger upper body. One must keep in mind we donít know if they are using steroids, which would make it a little easier to gain upper body mass without leg excercises. On the flipside, it would also be harder post cycle for a steroid user just to keep his gains. These people probably also have excellent upper body genetics and years of training experience. If they worked harder on leg excercises, they would be even bigger.

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    here's another few hundred similar studies

    working out legs releases testosterone - Google Search

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    i merely responded to what you said, and no, i did not know what you were implying. and as i said before, i was not being a dick to you, but you chose to take it personally, stop crying, your advice was solid

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rougen123 View Post
    So if your not training natty does it even matter?
    of course...

    just because your injecting test into yourself.. doenst mean you want your natural test to stop completely

    but you can always notice a body builder who squats and dead lifts compared to one who doesnt.

    more solid think dense looking mature muscle.

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    thanks for the replys guys i didnt mean to cause a riot!

    i read up on this article and wasnt a 100% sure about the report, u never know if they re spinning u a load of bull.

    its difficult to speak to the guys in my gym, most of them r idiots who jack up on test, and throw a d bell or two around, u speak to them about training and diet and they havent got a clue, the usual response is get big, drink beer, eat junk food, leave the gym and never return.

    at last i can talk to people who know what im talking about.

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    Didn't take it personally like you might think. It bothered me that a MOD is trying to call me out on something you should already know.

    It's deaded forget about it

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    Unhappy height problem
    how i can increased my height about 3" while my age is 24 yrs???????

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.pax View Post
    how i can increased my height about 3" while my age is 24 yrs???????
    What??????

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    To me this irrelevant. You should train all bodyparts hardcore anyways!

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    y ask a question like that, start a new thread mr pax and somebody might answer you

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    GH helped a friend of mine grow almost 10 inches... But to do that it needs to be taken around or during puberty. If you're 24 you should get used to you're height cuz chances are you're done growing bro

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    I know a guy that I used to train BJJ with. He was huge and he would work out heavy but with power cleans, squats, deadlifts and bench presses and over head presses. He rarely if ever trained arms and they were still huge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.pax View Post
    how i can increased my height about 3" while my age is 24 yrs???????
    You cant your short im not tall myself so stop posting these as you started a thread about it before and live your life.

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    I'm sure it can't hurt, and many people through the years have believed squats help development and strength in other areas - but I don't believe there is a direct correlation. That being said, the body will sense imbalances and possibly inhibit development because of it. There has been study showing how even having a stronger neck will trigger bigger numbers almost everywhere else too (curls even).

    Better balanced than not, but will bigger legs alone work magic - probably not for everyone all the time.
    He who overcomes others has force; He who overcomes himself is strong. Lao-tzu

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.pax View Post
    how i can increased my height about 3" while my age is 24 yrs???????
    your a clown !!!

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