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    Default trouble verbalizing thoughts/ blank mind
    One thing that really bothers me is, I struggle with verbalizing thoughts, its like I have a mental block.. people say something to me and I can't think clear or fast enough to really come up with anything relevant to say back.. its as if my conversations are fueled by anxiety and my not wanting to look or sound stupid which is quite exhausting.
    Some days are better than others, but today has been a struggle and so I wanted to post.
    Anyone else have this going on?
    And if so, has trt helped at all with it?

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    I had some mental blocks going on and yes once I got on TRT, it great improved my focus. I felt like a zombie for a period of time. What are your test levels by the way??

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    Yeah i havethe same thing happening daily and it is exhausting at times. Ive wondered if it was test related or not

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    Well my levels haven't been below 'normal', I've tested in the upper 400's, but I'm 26, I also have no facial hair and gynecomastia. So even though my numbers seem normal I dunno if somethings going on where I don't receive the benefit of what I have in my body, like maybe I have insensitive receptors or something going on that hasn't been scientifically discovered yet bc I tried testim once and felt more incredible and alive than I ever remember and even sooo much better that I've felt on any other medication, I've tried anti depressants and stimulants, nothing made me feel as alive as testim did. That coupled with seeing ranges that span from 200's to approx 1500, a level of upper 400's seems to be quite low. So I dunno if the normal range is just actually very off or what, but I seemed to respond very well to the additional testosterone, and so that coupled with my symptoms makes me feel like I don't really care about my #, if I go by feeling, it seems my body enjoyed the extra test, and so I don't really care what a range tells me, I feel this might just be very outdated or innacurate. And feel like I have to deal with any of the consequences involved so I'm gonna try and get help if it makes me feel better.
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    Trouble concentrating or "brain fog" is a common complaint of men with low T. Starting TRT usually seems to ckear that up for guys.
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    I had brain fog with 400-500 level testosterone, but really high estrogen. Make sure you get all levels checked.

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    I've been struggling with this for awhile as well, glad to hear I'm not the only one. I've been on TRT for 3 years, and I wonder if I've yet to hit my "sweet spot" where everything is balanced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CMonsterAU View Post
    I've been struggling with this for awhile as well, glad to hear I'm not the only one. I've been on TRT for 3 years, and I wonder if I've yet to hit my "sweet spot" where everything is balanced.
    You should be pretty dialed in by now. Are you doing injections??

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    Quote Originally Posted by CMonsterAU View Post
    I've been struggling with this for awhile as well, glad to hear I'm not the only one. I've been on TRT for 3 years, and I wonder if I've yet to hit my "sweet spot" where everything is balanced.
    Yes, what it your treatment protocol?

    And has the testosterone seemed to help you at all with this?

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    The only thing that ever COMPLETELY rid me of this is when I used medicinal marijuana sativa, it seemed to fix my mind and I understood life.

    I just watched an interview of Dave Chappelle and he's one of those lucky people who understand life, he just gets it. And when I used to use MJ, I felt this way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NateDEEzy View Post
    Yes, what it your treatment protocol?

    And has the testosterone seemed to help you at all with this?
    My treatment protocol is the "standard issue" - 100mg/wk injections. Over the years I've experimented with a few months at different levels to see if higher dosages would translate to less brain fog, and while it helps, it hasn't been completely eliminated. I've tried different dosages of liquidex to bring down the e levels, though admittedly, nothing very scientific other than attempting to apply what others have said worked for them on the boards. My total T-levels on 100/wk seems to hover around right below 600, which isn't sky high, but I would think it would be high enough to avoid the stammering and loss of words that I often experience.
    I also seem to be suffering a little sleep apnea, (according to my wife) which I believe may contribute to it as well.

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    what's the most you have increased your dose to? Many people on here dose at double what you are, at 200mg/wk, have you ever tried this?

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    For me, if I'm going to be on TRT, I would want to maximize the benefit and have high-normal levels if I'm gonna inject myself with a needle each week lol ! why did you decide to reduce your dose back to the 100mg/wk after experimenting with increased doses?

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    I'm currently running 200/wk. I should have been a little clearer - my "prescribed protocol" is test only 100mg/wk, no anti-e's or hcg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CMonsterAU View Post
    I'm currently running 200/wk. I should have been a little clearer - my "prescribed protocol" is test only 100mg/wk, no anti-e's or hcg.
    Thanks for the response, very interesting. Have you had any bloodwork done lately to see what the 200mg/wk and no ai or hCG produces with testosterone and estrogen?

    Also, your doctor won't prescribe hCG or an ai? and wanted you to run 100mg/wk?? If this is so, you might consider shopping around to obtain optimal treatment in hopes of feeling the best possible. Remember, this is your health, don't let a doctor get in the way of feeling the best you can, if they are not well knowledged and unwilling to help, find someone who is! You only live once!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CMonsterAU View Post
    My treatment protocol is the "standard issue" - 100mg/wk injections. Over the years I've experimented with a few months at different levels to see if higher dosages would translate to less brain fog, and while it helps, it hasn't been completely eliminated. I've tried different dosages of liquidex to bring down the e levels, though admittedly, nothing very scientific other than attempting to apply what others have said worked for them on the boards. My total T-levels on 100/wk seems to hover around right below 600, which isn't sky high, but I would think it would be high enough to avoid the stammering and loss of words that I often experience.
    I also seem to be suffering a little sleep apnea, (according to my wife) which I believe may contribute to it as well.
    Ok, so you are at 200mg per week correct?? 100mg from your script and then you self medicate 100mg on top of that??? Is that right?? Well, you seriously might be having some estrogen issues. My estrogen rockets anytime I take any testosterone even at 100mg per week. So with that being said, I am interested to see your E2 reading as well as your cortisol reading. I would look in to the saliva cortisol test and see if you are suffering from adrenal fatigue. I did at one time and I had a lot of the same symptoms you have. Lastly, I would look at your thyroid numbers. I know you said they came back in range but in my experience, a person can have a TSH reading of a 4 and the range is 0.5-4.5 and the doctor will say you are in range. Ideally, I like to see the TSH at around a 2. My thyroid output was lowered so I have been on T3 for a couple of years now and I will tell you that my energy levels really raised once I supplemented it. Another thing to look in to is your iodine levels and your vitamin D levels. And you even if your test levels are at 600, you might need to be a tad higher to get that extra kick. I prefer my levels to be at 900-1000. That is when I personally feel the best.

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