any dose of AI kills my joints

[maxxmill17]

my E i s high 80's on 160mgs of test per week...80mgs monday /friday....

all ai's fuck me up....even at smallest dose....

i have some gyno and ed....other than that i am ripped with veins through ab's,chest ,arms,legs....so not holding much water even at E of 80

would nolva. benefit me at all (or just for the gyno) ? thx

[j2048b]

what ai's have u tried? need to know what else is out there for u to try...

[maxxmill17]

adex as low as .10mgs (real and liquid) asinas low as .05mgs (real and liquid) letro2.5mgs/ml used a single drop from medicine dropper(tiny drop) (liquid)..

my issues 24 hours after any AI use my joints pop,ankles,wrists,hips,hands feel like need to keep cracking knuckles...it feel miserable for about 5 days...

[maxxmill17]

my diet is ...
meal 1. 2 scoops designer whey and 1 cup oatmeal

2. 8 eggwhites 1 whole egg

3. 8-12 ounces..white meat turkey,chicken, broc or spinich

4. 2 scoops protein

5. same as 3rd meal

6. 8-10 eggwhites

[j2048b]

are you taking in any efa's, fish oils, or hcg, ?

did u say u tried aromasin for an ai?

and if adex as low as .10 is hurting try less

letro is a very potent ai, most should not even try,

u might try clomid, or even nolva,

lastly, u might try lowering ur dosage to 70-75 mlg 2x's a week for test to see if that curtails the e2?

[Teutonic]

age ?

[Thunderstruck]

Howmuch you weigh and bf%. That doesn't sound like many calories especially with keeping carbs so low.

[maxxmill17]

43 yr old. 185lbs bf between 7-10% ...low bodyfat all my life...would like to increase calories..but any added bodyfat i see right away my nipples get very puffy...

are you taking in any efa's, fish oils, or hcg, ? zero

did u say u tried aromasin for an ai? asin yes .06 mgs tried

[maxxmill17]

u guys think try medicine dropper (1 drop ) of liquid adex (.5mg /ml) or 1 drop of aromasin (liquid 12.5mgs/ml) ......

or nolva? thx

[j2048b]

u need to throw in some fish oils, every day, these will help with joints a bit,

with either anastrozole or masin, u may need just a smaller amount than uve tried, and not every day

how often wehre u taking these ai's?

[maxxmill17]

i took .10 adex 24 hours later pain only 1x.......this was after month of waiting after trying .25 1x... same with each ai took once ....i really dont believe in fish oils at all...especially when using it vs a potent drug....i will google it to see if studies say show it really works...i hope your right would like to be a believer

[maxxmill17]

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/31/science/31qna.html

yup i will be on it....any to recommend from costco or walmart?

[juced_porkchop]

my E i s high 80's on 160mgs of test per week...80mgs monday /friday....

all ai's fuck me up....even at smallest dose....

i have some gyno and ed....other than that i am ripped with veins through ab's,chest ,arms,legs....so not holding much water even at E of 80

would nolva. benefit me at all (or just for the gyno) ? thx

Nolva is NOT an AI and WON'T lower estrogen.

Look at RUI I rec the liquid STANE for an AI study.
Not as hard on joints as letro.
though I have no issue with letro myself.

[maxxmill17]

i know nolva not ai was asking if any benefit for me if cant take AI'S

I have research stop stane 12.5/ml thoughts ?

[j2048b]

[url]http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/31/science/31qna.html[/url]

yup i will be on it....any to recommend from costco or walmart?

i go to vitacost and get their strawberry flavored and at ur age u need more epa as opposed to dha, and thiers has more epa and actually gives me a more balanced and happier feeling.

not sure why, but was told by a past trainer who happends to be a doctor that as we age we need less dha and more epa, because the dha is used mainly for groing eye balls and brains when we are younger

[Thunderstruck]

I get the fish oil from Sam's that has added vitamin D3 which most guys will benefit from as well. I totally believe fish oil has helped my joint pain.

[corvettels3]

Here is a crazy idea: Why don't you just lower your test dose. Say 100mg/week. Your goal should be TRT without any AI.

[BD7]

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/31/science/31qna.html

yup i will be on it....any to recommend from costco or walmart?

I buy Natures Bounty Fish Oil @ Costco. The 1440mg one has 980 mg of Omega-3's so it's much more concentrated that most. Also I buy Resveratrol @ Costco which also helps with E. I've noticed my joints feeling better with higher doses of Omega 3 fatty acids. No doubt in my mind but my E has never been in the high 80's either. I would think lowering your weekly T amount and maybe trying 3x / week pins as some have done to lower E might be worth a try. Good luck.

[j2048b]

Here is a crazy idea: Why don't you just lower your test dose. Say 100mg/week. Your goal should be TRT without any AI.

THIS!!!

Thats what i was referring to when i said to drop his dosage!

[maxxmill17]

i didnt igonore the drop dose to get away from ai....i am due blood work back tomorrow....

i want to see my #'s again...

[hadenhester]

When we feel pain or discomfort during or after exercise, household chores, or other activities, don't ignore it. Take a break and consider ceasing the activity altogether until we can perform it without pain. To help avoid overuse injuries, spend 5–10 minutes warming up before we exercise and another 5–10 minutes cooling down afterward. Please produce some more attachments about the topic to view detail information.

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[maxxmill17]

."Please produce some more attachments about the topic to view detail information"

huh?

[maxxmill17]

lifestyle management
personal assistant


lifestyle management : here is what i say to that title.....dont eat fats,or high calorie foods do some cardio. dont eat shit food cause your father beat you as a kid or your mother ignored you...

personal assistant= get the f*ck out of bed and work ...dont wait for handout's

[jupiterak]

u guys think try medicine dropper (1 drop ) of liquid adex (.5mg /ml) or 1 drop of aromasin (liquid 12.5mgs/ml)

Is the dropper measurable? That could be your problem if there's no markings and your guesstimating.
I recommend getting a 1cc oral syringe. Much more accurate.

[maxxmill17]

ok..if my math is correct....i haveliquid adex .5mgs/ml

i took a insulin pin that is 3/10 cc and loaded it to 5...pin reads 5-10-15-20-30..

i assume .5mgs per ml is .05mgs per 1/10 ml...so loading to line 5 on 3/10 ml should be .025mgs of adex....

here's hopeing small dose no joint pain...5 minutes in all good! (ha)