Discussion on Testosterone Replacement Therapy
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 Should TRT be "cycled" or not?
So I am about a month into TRT and still working on tuning Testosterone (working with a good doc!). I recently received a phone call from one of the "competing TRT companies" I spoke with when originally getting started. Their protocol is, more or less, 10 week cycles with 4 week pcts. The Rep explained to me that it is absolutely necessary to start testosterone with an anti E then after the 10 weeks on 200 per week you must go through a period of "restarting" your natural system with HCG and clomid. He also explained this was the only way to keep your thyroid operating correctly and producing other hormones your body needs. He also said that it doesn't do much good to use HCG during Testosterone use as the T just shuts the system right back off. The HCG is only a mimic so it is important to regularly restart your own thyroid to establish your own LH and FSH. Seems reasonable to me but pretty sure that is not my Docs protocol nor do I see any references to this protocol on any of the forums I read. Can someone clear up these conflicting views for me????
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Hes a moron. He is just after your money. Hcg will keep the boys going throughout. No you dont cycle trt its for life.
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Agreed trt is for life. Every time you "cycled" off you run a good chance of depression and all the other symptoms of low T
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I'm confused...so low doses of test which's what TRT is all about is for life and with no PCT or cycling off Plus you can run Chances of depression but on a high dose test on a normal "cycle" can be cycled off and with proper PCT everything goes back to normal post cycle?
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The point in try is to get levels in the upper high range of normal and keep them stable.
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I don't think that answers the question lol
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Why would you PCT if your nuts don't work?
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Don't work or work but poorly...
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Thats how you "TRT" without needing TRT. basically its for people that want to run cycles under the guise of TRT.
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So why not a PCT if running a cycle under a guise of "TRT " This is where I get lost :-/
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 Originally Posted by rikta
So why not a PCT if running a cycle under a guise of "TRT " This is where I get lost :-/
Thats what im saying. you DONT need a PCT with TRT. That clinic runs cycles for people that dont need TRT but say they do so they can get pharm grade test legally. Thats the reason they do a PCT.
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 Originally Posted by Misc
Thats what im saying. you DONT need a PCT with TRT. That clinic runs cycles for people that dont need TRT but say they do so they can get pharm grade test legally.
That makes sense. I can see why they'd do that.
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I think I finally got it ;-)
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Some doctors advocate coming off in order to avoid polycythemia but that is the only reason.
Last edited by IMT staff; 05-11-2012 at 07:44 PM.

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