Dropped HCG from protocol

[DJ77]

So I've been going back and forth as to weather or not I wanted to discoutine HCG or not... Decided to drop it from my protocol and here's why.

1.I had Vacetomy 3years ago... Got 2 great kids.
2. Don't care about a "full sack"
3. Cost of HCG
4. HCG increases Estro which means I have to increase my AI which means more money.

I don't see an upside to HCG for me, yes it's true HCG can help produce some natural testosterone but I think it's a very small amount.... Thoughts??

[mlc31]

I think a majority of HRT patients don't use HCG. Cashout is the resident expert on this and has some great insights on the subject. I see no harm in dropping it for the reasons you listed, but as always just listen to your body and see how you react. Good luck and keep us posted.

[cashout]

Your reasons are exactly why one should consider foregoing HCG.

[Illtemper]

Since this was brought up i have to ask.. Since im on hrt and have two kids also and me nor my wife want anymore, if i stop taking HCG will my nuts stop working so i can avoid getting my sack snipped???

I know it probably sounds dumb but im terrified about getting a vasectomy, and neither of us want more kids.. so i was just gonna stop taking hcg and get tested to see if i got dead swimmers..... make sense?

[cashout]

Since this was brought up i have to ask.. Since im on hrt and have two kids also and me nor my wife want anymore, if i stop taking HCG will my nuts stop working so i can avoid getting my sack snipped???

I know it probably sounds dumb but im terrified about getting a vasectomy, and neither of us want more kids.. so i was just gonna stop taking hcg and get tested to see if i got dead swimmers..... make sense?

This is a tricky question.

The answer is *maybe*

For me, 200 mgs a week of test cyp w/o HCG was enough to suppress my sperm production to an almost undetectable level.

So, yes this can serve as a form of male contraception.

HOWEVER, I would strong suggest you give a sample for analysis prior to assuming you will respond in the same manner that I did.

There a number of variables to this equation but a few include age, ethnicity, duration of treatment, mgs per week of test used to name a few.

[j2048b]

i have also thought of dropping the hcg, but honestly for me, i like the mood stabilization it offers, and others have noted this as well.

other than that if i stopped shooting like a porn star, and my nuts shriveled up, my wiener would look that much bigger haha!

[DJ77]

You sure it's not the test that's improving your mood? Ive been told the same and been off HCG for a month and mood hasn't changed... Still feel great

[j2048b]

well from what ive read and i believe chip even mentioned that hcg will help stabalize mood, dunno, but with just test alone, i get edgy s it raises, and with me the hcg allows me to calm down, and even at my amounts i dont convert much to e2, so it has been great to me,

but on another note as others have suggested, i dont need it because i want no more kids, and have contimplated getting it out of the system as well, we will see?

[TR2838]

I dropped it from my protocol because my e2 rises too much w/ it.. Now I keep it on hand if I crash my e2, it's a quick way too get it back up w/ a 750iu shot

[Packgus]

I dont know about you guys but my girl loves to play with my huge plump balls. Also she loves the massive loads that I am shooting in and on her.

I am keeping the HCG in play!

[j2048b]

I dont know about you guys but my girl loves to play with my huge plump balls. Also she loves the massive loads that I am shooting in and on her.

I am keeping the HCG in play!

hahahahahaha thats funny right there!

man i dont ever see any ball size increase on hcg, maybe 500 2x's a week is not enough?

what exactly should one be looking for in terms of effects with hcg anyways?

[mlc31]

Not everyone will notice a difference with HCG added to their protocol. I dropped it months ago and have noticed no difference physically or mentally. Seemed to be a waste of money for me (I'm also single and have no desire to have children now or ever). Everyone's different and if HCG is working for you then by all means keep it in there!.

[Packgus]

I am using 250iu 2x week. My balls were big and full prior to starting TRT and they have pretty much just stayed the same size during the TRT using the hcg.

I did notice my load volume increase after a while on TRT. I am not sure if this is from the test or the hcg.

[mastodon2222]

Since this was brought up i have to ask.. Since im on hrt and have two kids also and me nor my wife want anymore, if i stop taking HCG will my nuts stop working so i can avoid getting my sack snipped???

I know it probably sounds dumb but im terrified about getting a vasectomy, and neither of us want more kids.. so i was just gonna stop taking hcg and get tested to see if i got dead swimmers..... make sense?

TRT is pretty effective as a contraceptive, if taken at high enough dosages (~200 mg/wk). But it could take many months before you are azoospermic, and even then you might make enough (all it takes is one) so you've gotta be a little careful.

[TR2838]

Your not dumb for being scared of a vasectomy.. My Brother-in-law got one over a year ago and he still feel significant pain in his sack.. The docs tell him it's all in his head.. This one case is enough to keep me away from that procedure

[DJ77]

Vasectomy isn't that bad... 20mins and it's done, sore for acouple days.

[j2048b]

Your not dumb for being scared of a vasectomy.. My Brother-in-law got one over a year ago and he still feel significant pain in his sack.. The docs tell him it's all in his head.. This one case is enough to keep me away from that procedure

NON SURGICAL VASECTOMY!

THEY GO IN AND CLIP THE LINES WITHOUT CUTTING AND SCORING THEM, THEN IF U WANT KIDS LATER ON THE PUT STINTS IN THE TUBES AND THEY R OPEN AGAIN!

u will have little incision on ur sack, clips clipped on ur sperm lines haha and be done!

[cdy2179]

Vasectomy isn't that bad... 20mins and it's done, sore for acouple days.

+1
I've had test injections that were more sore and lasted longer than the couple days of slight dicomfort from my vasectomy. Really never felt any pain at all, just a little itching from the stitches.

[juced_porkchop]

So I've been going back and forth as to weather or not I wanted to discoutine HCG or not... Decided to drop it from my protocol and here's why.

1.I had Vacetomy 3years ago... Got 2 great kids.
2. Don't care about a "full sack"
3. Cost of HCG
4. HCG increases Estro which means I have to increase my AI which means more money.

I don't see an upside to HCG for me, yes it's true HCG can help produce some natural testosterone but I think it's a very small amount.... Thoughts??

I dont bother with HCG and im on HRT, i dont care of their shrunk so whats the issue?
less hcance of having kids with my gf, then better, almost like birth control (though of course not very strong in that regard for some)

I WOULD rec this added to your HRT:
Pregnenolone - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

when your on HRT, alot of other important things stop being made, NOT just test. estro is nto an issue because of converting from test , but there are others, and if you want a full healthy life you want to be taking this or at the VERY least DHEA.

I rec preg, a small amount 10-30mg ed.

[DJ77]

Thanks Juiced, I supplement with both DHEA and Pregnenolone daily.

[iwannabod]

When I had my V done, they had to knock me out because the doc had to go searching for one of the lifelines. In anycase, for the next week I had balls the size of cantalopes. No Shit! I was truly walking around like a cowboy who was on a two day ride. I say this not to scare you but to let you know, right after that they quickly regained their original size and I was shooting load their was not tomorrow.

[jupiterak]

I had it last August and it wasn't that bad. It's 99% mental. Alittle uncomfortable during the surgery, feels like someone squeezing your nuts. LOL Anyway, only used pain meds for two days, walking was alittle uncomfortable. I'm on TRT and was using HCG up till the surgery. Now I noticed no decrease in size. Just some days, it's smaller and others it's plump. I'm 40, and have no regrets getting it done.

[bigmike33]

If u think u can drop the hcg and not get her pregnant think again. I don't care if ur balls draw up so far and u have a inti sack u can still get her pregnant bc I thought the same way and my wife had a little girl. And I believe hcg does give u a better mood at least for me.

[Illtemper]

If u think u can drop the hcg and not get her pregnant think again. I don't care if ur balls draw up so far and u have a inti sack u can still get her pregnant bc I thought the same way and my wife had a little girl. And I believe hcg does give u a better mood at least for me.

Dont take this the wrong way, but for me THAT WOULD SUCK!! I think we would both be upset.....
I gotta think the whole V procedure over and get prepared mentally.... I know its the right thing to do to be safer but DAMN im SkArEd!!
Not to sound gay but do you still shoot monster loads after its done??

[jupiterak]

Loads are still the same. It's all mental.