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    just wondering if theres any supplements that actually do this, or fat burners that actually help, not looking for a miracle drug just a little help cant hurt in losing wait,

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    Dont taze me, bro.
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    ephedrine hcl + caffeine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suareezay
    ephedrine hcl + caffeine.
    A very small boost. Caffeine is good for fat burning if drank before workout (according to some studies). Personally I love coffee to just get me through the workout. I believe in it because I'm addicted to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suareezay
    ephedrine hcl + caffeine.
    +1. I also add aspirin (ECA) but whether it adds to the effect, who knows. Some say yes and it's dirt cheap and good for the heart.
    I get Bronkaid (ephed), Altert tabs (generic vivirin), and Asprin 325. Dirt cheap! If you've been stim free for awhile you need to start out small (1/2 tabs of each and taper up by 1/2 tabs) cuz it will jolt you at first!
    You could do yohimbine intead of ephed but I think ephed works better for me. Stim free, I've used ALCAR & DHEA w/some success. Nothing crazy though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayC
    +1. I also add aspirin (ECA) but whether it adds to the effect, who knows. Some say yes and it's dirt cheap and good for the heart.
    I get Bronkaid (ephed), Altert tabs (generic vivirin), and Asprin 325. Dirt cheap! If you've been stim free for awhile you need to start out small (1/2 tabs of each and taper up by 1/2 tabs) cuz it will jolt you at first!
    You could do yohimbine intead of ephed but I think ephed works better for me. Stim free, I've used ALCAR & DHEA w/some success. Nothing crazy though.
    the consensus seems to be that A is beneficial for fatties, but not lean individuals. but if youre taking A and its working for you, then keep doing so. although a lot of people feel that much aspirin everyday could be bad.

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    1: Int J Obes Relat Metab Disord. 1996 Feb;20(2):91-7.

    Post-prandial thermogenesis with ephedrine, caffeine and aspirin in lean,
    pre-disposed obese and obese women.

    Horton TJ, Geissler CA.

    Department of Nutrition and Dietetics, King's College, University of London,
    Kensington, UK.

    OBJECTIVE: To determine whether or not aspirin further potentiates the greater
    post-prandial thermogenesis induced by ephedrine with caffeine. DESIGN:
    Determination of the acute ********* rate response to the following treatments:
    1050 kJ liquid meal (M); meal plus ephedrine (30 mg) and caffeine (100 mg) (MEC)
    or meal plus ephedrine, caffeine and aspirin (300 mg) (MECA). SUBJECTS: Lean,
    pre-disposed obese and obese women (n = 10 each group). MEASUREMENTS: Pre- and
    post-treatment ********* rate determinations via indirect calorimetry.
    Post-treatment measurements made at 20 min intervals for a total of 160 min.
    RESULTS: In all groups, ********* rate increased significantly more following
    the MEC or MECA, compared to the meal only (p < 0.05). The obese group had a
    significantly greater absolute increase in ********* rate following the MECA and
    MEC compared to both the lean and pre-disposed obese groups (p < 0.05).
    ********* rate remained elevated at the end of the 160 min following all
    treatments. CONCLUSION: Aspirin does not further potentiate the acute thermic
    effect of ephedrine and caffeine with a meal.
    However, the full thermogenic
    response was not measured and longer duration studies are necessary to confirm
    these results.

    PMID: 8646257 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]



    2: Int J Obes. 1991 May;15(5):359-66.

    Aspirin potentiates the effect of ephedrine on the thermogenic response to a
    meal in obese but not lean women.

    Horton TJ, Geissler CA.

    Department of Food and Nutritional Sciences, King's College (KQC), Kensington,
    London, UK.

    The effect of ephedrine (30 mg) and aspirin (300 mg) on the acute thermogenic
    response to a liquid meal (250 kcal) was investigated in lean and obese women (n
    = 10 each group). Resting ********* rate (RMR) was measured prior to each of the
    following treatments: meal only (M), meal plus ephedrine (ME) or meal plus
    ephedrine and aspirin (MEA). Eight post-treatment measurements of ********* rate
    were made over a total of 160 minutes. Rise in post-treatment ********* rate was
    compared to the baseline RMR. Following the M treatment, the mean increase in
    ********* rate was 0.17 +/- 0.01 and 0.13 +/- 0.02 kcal/min in the lean and
    obese groups respectively, with the corresponding rises being 0.21 +/- 0.02 and
    0.19 +/- 0.02 kcal/min following the ME, and 0.23 +/- 0.03 and 0.23 +/- 0.01
    kcal/min following the MEA. The increase in post-prandial thermogenesis with the
    ephedrine or ephedrine plus aspirin was significant in the obese group (P less
    than 0.03 and P less than 0.001 respectively) but not the lean. Furthermore, the
    post-treatment rise in ********* rate, following the MEA treatment compared to
    the ME, was significantly greater for the obese group (P less than 0.05) but not
    the lean. It was concluded that aspirin potentiates the stimulatory effect of
    ephedrine on the thermogenic response to a meal in obese but not lean women.

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