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- Rep Power
just wondering if theres any supplements that actually do this, or fat burners that actually help, not looking for a miracle drug just a little help cant hurt in losing wait,
ephedrine hcl + caffeine.
A very small boost. Caffeine is good for fat burning if drank before workout (according to some studies). Personally I love coffee to just get me through the workout. I believe in it because I'm addicted to it.
Originally Posted by Suareezay
the consensus seems to be that A is beneficial for fatties, but not lean individuals. but if youre taking A and its working for you, then keep doing so. although a lot of people feel that much aspirin everyday could be bad.
Originally Posted by JayC
1: Int J Obes Relat Metab Disord. 1996 Feb;20(2):91-7.
Post-prandial thermogenesis with ephedrine, caffeine and aspirin in lean,
pre-disposed obese and obese women.
Horton TJ, Geissler CA.
Department of Nutrition and Dietetics, King's College, University of London,
OBJECTIVE: To determine whether or not aspirin further potentiates the greater
post-prandial thermogenesis induced by ephedrine with caffeine. DESIGN:
Determination of the acute metabolic rate response to the following treatments:
1050 kJ liquid meal (M); meal plus ephedrine (30 mg) and caffeine (100 mg) (MEC)
or meal plus ephedrine, caffeine and aspirin (300 mg) (MECA). SUBJECTS: Lean,
pre-disposed obese and obese women (n = 10 each group). MEASUREMENTS: Pre- and
post-treatment metabolic rate determinations via indirect calorimetry.
Post-treatment measurements made at 20 min intervals for a total of 160 min.
RESULTS: In all groups, metabolic rate increased significantly more following
the MEC or MECA, compared to the meal only (p < 0.05). The obese group had a
significantly greater absolute increase in metabolic rate following the MECA and
MEC compared to both the lean and pre-disposed obese groups (p < 0.05).
Metabolic rate remained elevated at the end of the 160 min following all
treatments. CONCLUSION: Aspirin does not further potentiate the acute thermic
effect of ephedrine and caffeine with a meal. However, the full thermogenic
response was not measured and longer duration studies are necessary to confirm
PMID: 8646257 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
2: Int J Obes. 1991 May;15(5):359-66.
Aspirin potentiates the effect of ephedrine on the thermogenic response to a
meal in obese but not lean women.
Horton TJ, Geissler CA.
Department of Food and Nutritional Sciences, King's College (KQC), Kensington,
The effect of ephedrine (30 mg) and aspirin (300 mg) on the acute thermogenic
response to a liquid meal (250 kcal) was investigated in lean and obese women (n
= 10 each group). Resting metabolic rate (RMR) was measured prior to each of the
following treatments: meal only (M), meal plus ephedrine (ME) or meal plus
ephedrine and aspirin (MEA). Eight post-treatment measurements of metabolic rate
were made over a total of 160 minutes. Rise in post-treatment metabolic rate was
compared to the baseline RMR. Following the M treatment, the mean increase in
metabolic rate was 0.17 +/- 0.01 and 0.13 +/- 0.02 kcal/min in the lean and
obese groups respectively, with the corresponding rises being 0.21 +/- 0.02 and
0.19 +/- 0.02 kcal/min following the ME, and 0.23 +/- 0.03 and 0.23 +/- 0.01
kcal/min following the MEA. The increase in post-prandial thermogenesis with the
ephedrine or ephedrine plus aspirin was significant in the obese group (P less
than 0.03 and P less than 0.001 respectively) but not the lean. Furthermore, the
post-treatment rise in metabolic rate, following the MEA treatment compared to
the ME, was significantly greater for the obese group (P less than 0.05) but not
the lean. It was concluded that aspirin potentiates the stimulatory effect of
ephedrine on the thermogenic response to a meal in obese but not lean women.
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