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    For Those Of You Not Using S-4 Because Of Yellow Vision Concerns. Plz Read!!!
    Here are my thoughts ,opinions, and my observations regarding the SARM S-4, and the concern people had over the issue with yellow tinted vision.

    In a nutshell, I decided to do a S-4 and Osta stack. I am running this stack as such:
    1wk S4 @ 20mg @ 11am & 11pm.
    Osta @ 25mg ED 11am

    2-4wk S4 @ 25mg @ 11am & 11pm
    Osta @ 25mg ED @ 11am

    Other supps: Creatine Mono, Plenty of Whey, Multi-vitamin, Super No-Kryptonite before workout.

    I am on day 4 today i am working with about 4 hours of sleep. I took a shot of SNK, around 1pm, so I wouldn't fall asleep while getting my root canal at the Dentist.(Yes, I actually fell asleep before, just for a sec.).
    Hit another shot of SNK about 30mins prior to work out. Hit Chest and Bi's. Now before I go further, I would like to state, SNK has never given me this much energy before, thus leads me to believe this stack of S-4 & Osta, is now just starting to really kick in. Like I said this is day 4, during these first 4 days, I didn't notice anything in regards to more energy/endurance nor increase in weight or strength.
    Now, in regards to the vision issues. I was actually driving home from the gym, it was hazy outside as it had just rained. I was looking at peoples cars as they drove by, and wondered "Why the Fuck is everyone's headlights yellow?"
    Duh.. Then I remembered its the S-4, dumbass.

    How can I describe it? First off, I wear glasses, and I don't have any anti glare treatment on the lenses. To me there were a bit more of flaring around certain lights, car headlights, and streetlights. And of course they were yellowish. Imagine just getting out of the swimming pool, and you get those chlorine eyes.
    I mention yellowish, because its not as bad as everyone makes it out to be. Other than that my eyes are a bit dry, but Its probably because of the lack of sleep.

    A better example is: I put some of those brighter headlights on my car, not the blueish tinted ones(HID style), with the vision sides they look more like regular head lights now.

    When it comes to issues with my body whether it be needles, giving blood, I'm a fucking pussy. Gotta be honest here!!! I had to get a MRI on my Brain(car accident) and they put me in the machine, I fucking freaked the fuck out, and they had to put me on a shit load of Valium.
    This is why I am writing this, I would be the worst person for S-4 just for the vision sides, but it doesn't bother me. I hardly even noticed.
    I was in Walgreen's picking up a new oral syringe, and noticed that the florescent lights did not effect my eyes, this is re-verified looking at my desk lamp. As I am typing this my computer monitor, and my LCD TV look normal.
    So basically, if you are seriously considering S-4, but are worried about the vision sides, DON'T be. If you can stick a needle in the ass/arm or wherever, you can deal with the yellowish tint.(if you can even call it that!!!)
    So now you have no more excuses.

    Hope this helps, just trying to do my part.
    Brian H.

    P.s. Uniquemicals has S-4 for only $19.95!!! I am not affiliated with them in anyway. There was a issue with my order, and they were on the fucking ball, letting me know what happened, and rushed to make it right. Plus I told them I would give them props, for a job well done....

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    I just came off of 8 weeks of S4/MK and I ran the S4 @ 50mg all the way through the 8 weeks...In my experience, it wasn't so much the yellow tinted vision, as it was the night time blindness. I'm talking can't see your hand in front of your face night time blindness. The vascularity/muscle hardness was nice, but because of the extremely impaired night vision, I won't be using it again. I'll just be sticking with DAA/Anabeta/Erase until I decide to just go for the 12 weeks of test.

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    there are a few threads out there on this that go into greater detail, look them up.

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    lol you're ok with your vision changing colors but you're scared of needles?

    I ran MK,GW, and S4. I threw S4 in the trash after 2 weeks. Absolutely hated the vision side effects that shit was horrible.

    I noticed it mostly at night and when I would switch rooms with diff lighting (night and day, inside to outside, etc).

    Mk is the shit.

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    People make WAY too much noise about the 'yellow eye' issue, it's modest at best the first time you cycle S4 and I think I was up to 75mg/ed of S4 by my 3-4th cycle and the yellow was almost non existent. The yellow will only last ~ 12-24hrs after your last S4 dose and will only effect you noticeably in low light situations where filament/gas bulbs are used, plasma ( HID) and LEDs look perfectly normal.

    As my gran used to say, " suck it up buttercup."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hull Tech View Post
    People make WAY too much noise about the 'yellow eye' issue, it's modest at best the first time you cycle S4 and I think I was up to 75mg/ed of S4 by my 3-4th cycle and the yellow was almost non existent. The yellow will only last ~ 12-24hrs after your last S4 dose and will only effect you noticeably in low light situations where filament/gas bulbs are used, plasma ( HID) and LEDs look perfectly normal.

    As my gran used to say, " suck it up buttercup."
    Like every other chemical compound in the world it's dependent on the person. You're only the second person I've read about that had minimal side effects over 50mg/ml E/D.

    My friend, the third person, bumped S4 up to 100mg/ml E/D with almost no vision side effects.

    I was at 50mg/ml and was fucking miserable

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldogOG View Post
    I just came off of 8 weeks of S4/MK and I ran the S4 @ 50mg all the way through the 8 weeks...In my experience, it wasn't so much the yellow tinted vision, as it was the night time blindness. I'm talking can't see your hand in front of your face night time blindness. The vascularity/muscle hardness was nice, but because of the extremely impaired night vision, I won't be using it again. I'll just be sticking with DAA/Anabeta/Erase until I decide to just go for the 12 weeks of test.
    The vision sides felt like I was back in Cancun doing some x at a club. All lights had a certain flare to them and yellowish tint. I enjoyed the different perspective. If you do a lot of stuff at night, I can see the night vision causing people issues.

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