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 Best prohormone for cutting?
Im going on a cut cycle very soon and I still am unsure on what prohormone I want to take. My stats are currently:
Age:23
Height: 5'11
Weight: 184
BF: 11.7%
What would you guys recommend to take so I can get fucking ripped!?
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i want to take a pill to get fucking ripped too. so let me know which one it is bros!!
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Would you be willing to post pics before the advice is given? At that %, height, weight, and age...doesnt sound like a steroid based cut is needed.
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Well I'd rather not since I have no cam at the moment and Im not willing to drop $$ on something I really don't need. I can tell you that I have fat covering my abs and my arms are def not that ripped. I mean sorry about the pics but can you still give me your recommendation?
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then there is no way you're 11% in all fairness probably like 17-20% if you're still fairly lean.
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 Originally Posted by Stayliftin
Well I'd rather not since I have no cam at the moment and Im not willing to drop $$ on something I really don't need. I can tell you that I have fat covering my abs and my arms are def not that ripped. I mean sorry about the pics but can you still give me your recommendation?
Epistane is very mild, very dry. I will say Epi-strong, as mentioned in my sig. Great quality. Epi is also easy to recover from. It will get you to your goals.
Best of luck in your goals, and keep it safe while on.
I will still say its better to stay natty though. Have you cycled before?
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Well I can say the device at my local gym probably is a little off, but regardless, can you give me a recommendation?
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Didn't see that last post, and no I haven't cycled before
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if you're diet doesn't get fixed than you will eventually go right back to where you were before. keep it in mind.
that being said good luck. i've heard good things about epi but i love hdrol. its some good stuff when you dose it right.
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Of course, and are proposing hdrol as the best cutter?
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i'd argue for it. it promotes lean gains and you can get tons of strength off of it if you dose it right. i'd run it at at least 75mg ed for 5 or 6 weeks. maybe even up to 100 if you're not a beginner.
my next run i plan on doing 75/75/75/100/100/100 but if I'm making good gains on 75 i'll probably just ride it the whole way thru. i've seen needto recommend it as high as 150 saying that its where it "really shines" but you'd have to be a pretty big boy and be able to tolerate some sides.
i basically had no sides except a little shutdown when finishing my run of 50/50/50/75/75 as my first ph run and made some good gains.
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True, I only have 1 bottle of it though so I was going to run it 50/50/50/50
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just realized you said you had never cycled before. my first cycle was great at 50/50/50/75/75 of hdrol. i made good mass gains (was trying to bulk) if had watched my diet more closely (i was eating to get huge) it would have made a hell of a recomp. I plan on doing a recomp in a few weeks and i'll run it again as outlined in the post above.
i would def recommend hdrol as a strong first cycle.
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50mg for 4 weeks will do you some good but your diet will need to be great. i honestly would try to pick up another bottle since its relatively cheap. and run it for longer at minimum. gains only really start to come at the mid third week.
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And like I said Im going to run it on a cut
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With Halo, some people even for a first timer never feel 50mg, or even 75mg. Its a very mild, weak, yet dry product. But it will definitely be safe.
But every one has preferences.
Last edited by Zero V; 09-26-2011 at 11:41 PM.
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any prohormome can be used for cutting. its all in your diet bro. eat clean. cut down on carbs. the food you eat is whats going to make u ripped or not
if its a first cycle , id recomend an epistane clone
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 Originally Posted by Zero V
Epistane is very mild, very dry. I will say Epi-strong, as mentioned in my sig. Great quality. Epi is also easy to recover from. It will get you to your goals.
Best of luck in your goals, and keep it safe while on.
I will still say its better to stay natty though. Have you cycled before?
I also would say epi-strong and I would run transaderm with it. Along side of a good diet and soild routine this should help you get to your goal.
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Isn't epistane by IBE still available to buy online?
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If I were to run IBE's Epistane, what would be a good PCT for it?
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clomid or nolva. i wouldn't take the chance with an otc even if epi is considered "mild"
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How do I get my hands on either on of those?
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 Originally Posted by Stayliftin
How do I get my hands on either on of those?
...we cant say. But use your eyes, read, and pay attention.
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I would rec for a OTC cycle:
wk1-6 Beastdrol 20mg ed
wk1-8 Rs-Trasaderm 1-2 doses ed
wk1-8 2-4 need2slin ed
this is a GREAT injectable free cutter.
i would still rec over it the ol school teste for 12 wks at 400-600mg ew though.
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ibe epistane(good stuff) you will defeiantly need a PCT. I ran it without PCT my first time and starting having gyno symptoms a month ana a half after i stopped taking it.
for epistane cycle..
you need milk thistle during the cycle.. and clomid(nolva or torem) after. and a good diet all they way through
those are the essentials for epistane. you can expect to gain 4-8 pounds if you work hard..
if you got a girlfirend to take care of, get cialus. maybe a little bulgarian tribulous as well
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