Andro Hard and Katanadrol

[turnej23]

I thinking about running two cycles back to back.
1st katanadrol x 4 weeks
2nd Andro Hard x4 weeks

Just looking for some information as to why this is a good cycle or a bad idea.

[FL3X MAGNUM]

Are you saying you want to take katana for 4 weeks, follow up with PCT and time off, and then run AndroHard for 4 weeks? Or are you saying you want to bridge straight from Katana right into AndroHard?

I honestly think the best idea would be to run them both together. You will get the cutting and lean mass gain benefits from Katana along with more lean mass and hardening benefits of AndroHard, would probably be a killer recomp cycle. I wouldn't run katana and bridge into AH though because you're just dragging out how long you'll be partially shut down for IMO.

I would also say maybe overlapping would work well, running Katana for 2 weeks solo before adding AH. Then you can have a 6 week recomp cycle, and will be able to see how Katana affects you before adding AH, and can diagnose any sides that way.

[turnej23]

Yea I was looking to bridge them. But, I like your suggestion on running Katana for 2 weeks then add andro hard.
I think it would make an excellent stack too. I just was'nt sure if they were able to be used together.

[FL3X MAGNUM]

Yea I was looking to bridge them. But, I like your suggestion on running Katana for 2 weeks then add andro hard.
I think it would make an excellent stack too. I just was'nt sure if they were able to be used together.

By the looks of some of the AH logs, there are endless opportunities as far as stacking goes. I think you'll also see some increased effectiveness of the Katana when you add AH in the mix as each cap contains the Liqua-Vade technology for better drug interaction.
You gonna log it?

[turnej23]

Sure, why not. I'll start Sunday the 25th and make log entries every couple of days. (updated cycle)
Katana 5 per day( spread out over the course of the day) x 4
A/H Starting July 9th 6 per day x 4
That should be a total of 6 weeks on cycle.

Ill be using Tamoxifen for PCT.
day 1 100mg
day 2-6 50 mg
week 2 30 mg
week 3 20mg
week 4 10mg
I have some taurine and will use as needed.
Supplements include:
Fish oil 3x2
multi 1x2
glucosamine 1x2
bcaa
Milk thistle
Protein intake will be around 200-220 grams per day.
Carbs and fat will be kept to a min.
I don't eat a lot of junk or drink so I'll just eat when I'm hungry and keep lean in the front of my mind.
Current stats:
6'0
210lb
Squat 315 x6
Bench 225 x 9
Dead lift 415 x 2
Current body fat ?
I 'm guessing about 15 - 20%
I can see my abs.
Age 46

[FL3X MAGNUM]

Cool man, looking forward to it.

[BigBlackguy]

Looks good to me man. Looking forward to the log.

[Good Grip]

Good details. Ill follow.

[HereToStudy]

Milk thistle

I may be mistaking compounds, but isn't Katanadrol a non-methyl? There would be no need for a liver aid if that is the case.

Looking forward to the log.

[turnej23]

I may be mistaking compounds, but isn't Katanadrol a non-methyl? There would be no need for a liver aid if that is the case.

Looking forward to the log.

You are correct. I have just gotten into the habit of taking them. Just like a multi and fish oil and my other day to day supplements.

[FL3X MAGNUM]

You are correct. I have just gotten into the habit of taking them. Just like a multi and fish oil and my other day to day supplements.

Can't hurt.

[HereToStudy]

You are correct. I have just gotten into the habit of taking them. Just like a multi and fish oil and my other day to day supplements.

Ahh ok, I just wanted to make sure you new that.

Can't hurt.

Certainly.

[Zero V]

You have already been given great advice. Those two should sit well with one another.

Katana has Halo in it as well, which is technically a methyl


Though its definitely the mildest of them. In the instance of Katana, unless you have some underlying condition I could never see it being an issue liver wise. And androhard wont put any strain on it either.

[djm6464]

to be redundant......that combo would be pretty smooth side wise, and give some mild but maintainable gains.....which are better anyways

grab a solid PCT like torem from rui, or the trs form pp, or both (sponsors) and you are g2g

[turnej23]

Started my cycle a day early so I am into my 4th day on katana.
Men over 40 take note of the following. You younger guys won't need to worry about the following for a while.
So far I have had one work out. At the time I felt no effect except for maybe feeling slightly warmer during the workout.
It could be just me,but there might be some appitite suppression going on,not sure though.
Almost from day 1 I could feel this supplement effecting my prostate, the need for frequent trips to the bathroom was a concern. It has leveled off somewhat but the first two days i could really feel the effect on me, but like I said it has toned down some now.
Positive effect on libido and morning erection. I'm not going to run out and sign a contract and become a porn star, but this supplement is a step in that direction.

[FL3X MAGNUM]

Damn, prostate inflammation on day 4?? That's nuts lol. The first thing I thought of is maybe the Katana is making you more thirsty, and you're drinking more fluids without really taking note of that, thus causing more frequent urination.

Do you have any saw palmetto to help with this? I have been using it every cycle since I was introduced to it a couple years ago.

[turnej23]

Damn, prostate inflammation on day 4?? That's nuts lol. The first thing I thought of is maybe the Katana is making you more thirsty, and you're drinking more fluids without really taking note of that, thus causing more frequent urination.

Do you have any saw palmetto to help with this? I have been using it every cycle since I was introduced to it a couple years ago.

I usually drink alot of water anyways, so I doubt its that.
I'll pick up some saw palmetto when I think of it. Seriously its not that bad now,it just took me by surprised that it effected me like that so quickly, so I thought I'd pass it along.

[BigBlackguy]

Prostate trouble with which product? Sorry, I didn't see it up there specifically which. I know one guy over at the PP forums (50+ years old) said he was able to lower his dose of saw palmetto when on the AH.

[turnej23]

Prostate trouble with which product? Sorry, I didn't see it up there specifically which. I know one guy over at the PP forums (50+ years old) said he was able to lower his dose of saw palmetto when on the AH.

I'm running katana.

[turnej23]

Nothing new to report except I do believe there is some appitite suppression happening. Looking into the mirror I believe I'm leaning out a little bit,not sure though maybe wishful thinking.
Strength during the workouts is nothing outstanding, but there is no drop off either. Oh yea I have decent vascularty during the workouts and seem to recover in good order between sets.

[Bikeswimlive]

You have already been given great advice. Those two should sit well with one another.

Katana has Halo in it as well, which is technically a methyl


Though its definitely the mildest of them. In the instance of Katana, unless you have some underlying condition I could never see it being an issue liver wise. And androhard wont put any strain on it either.

Is it katana v1 or v2? V2 is just an orastan e clone.

[Bikeswimlive]

I'm thinking of trying androhard. What would you guys think about an 8 weeker? Hcg necessary?

[Dethrone]

Is it katana v1 or v2? V2 is just an orastan e clone.

Is Katana 1 still available??

[turnej23]

is it katana v1 or v2? V2 is just an orastan e clone.

v2

[turnej23]

Had a really good workout last night. I was full of energy and felt good throughout. Strength was nothing out of the ordinary. I believe I am noticing some slight agression, mental focus is good and my weight is similar to when I started.