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Old 08-10-2007, 05:08 PM   #1 (permalink)
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This is the first time I've run Test...I have run two very mild oral only cycles previously 1st Var 6wks at 20mg ED and 2nd Tbol 6wks at 20mg ED, I had good results from both cycles but at the same time they lacked that real bulk building ability that Test provides...

Starting weight 196lbs
Current weight 196lbs
BF% 10-12%
Height 5ft 11"
Previous Cycles 2 ( 6weeks Var at 20mg ED ) ( 6 Weeks Tbol at 20mg ED )

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Test E - Lucky13 brand Test E Brew Log


- Test E @ 300mg EW 1-12 ( 150mg Mon 150mg Thur )
- Aromisan @ 12.5mg EOD 1-12
- HCG @ 500IU EW 2-12 ( 250UI Mon 250UI Thur )

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- Toremifene Citrate @ 60mg ED 1-4
- Aromisan @ 12.5mg ED 1-4

Vitamin Suppliments:

- Vitamin C @ 1000mg ED
- Vitamin E @ 300mg ED
- Cod Liver Oil @ 2000mg ED
- Garlic Tabs @ 1200mg ED ( Good for the heart and BP but fucking disgusting )
- MSM @ 1600mg ED ( Good for joints and hair growth )
- Glucosamine Sulphate @ 500mg ED ( Good for joints )
- Peppermint Oil @ 150mg 2xED ( helps digestion )

Anti Hairloss Suppliments:

- Proscar ( Propecia ) @ 1.25mg ED ( GSK $40 for 30x5mg Pills )
- Nizoral Shampoo @ Wash&Go 2xED
- Spironolactone @ 1200mg mixed into Nizoral Shampoo 2xED
- Topical Scalp Cream 5% Spironolactone + 1% finasteride 2xED

Diet:

Diet is very clean, 6-8 meals a day with 250g protein and 3500cals


Training:

Mon - Arms/Chest @ 1hr
Tues - Cardio @ 30mins
Wed - Shoulders/Back @1hr
Thur - Legs/Cardio @45/15mins split
Fri - Rest
Sat - Loop to Mon and repeat

This may look like I'm over training but I always get results this way, I get my rest on the 30min cardio days.

Personal Note:

I've shy'd away from Test for my previous two cycles due to health reasons and hairloss risks, I've suffered from heart paliptations in the past and very high BP so it was always my primary concern to run something that could be halted immediatly and then within 24hrs be out of my system...Var and Tbol have very short half lifes of 8hrs and are also very safe on the hairline, both cycles went well ( see logs below in my sig ) but if I want to get to the next level then Test is the way fwd, I've also managed to lower my BP natually, heart palpitations and anxiety are now gone and I will also be running a heavy anti hairloss plan

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I have before pictures and will take after pictures, I will post these once the cycle is over.

Additional Notes:

I've had a real bad time with Nolva and sides which is why this time I will be using a relativly new SERM called Toremifene, it has had mixed reviews in scientific studies as to wether it increases FSH and LH but in real world applications it looks much more promising with people raving about how effective it has been and that it quite literally kicks Nolva's ass in PCT recovery...so fingers crossed

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I am looking for lean gains only... so will have a very strict diet, I may throw in Var and Clen depending on how my BF% is going, ideally I'd like to gain 10-12lbs and drop to 8-9% BF
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nice, finally. I would say that you may want to up the test. the whole 300mg deal is for first timers. I don't think you're going to notice too much.
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1st injection went okish, I inserted the needle slowly aspirated and drew blood, pulled out, changed needles inserted needle and drew blood again! WTF! hard to believe any of you guys that don't aspirate live long! Anyway I swapped needles again inserted and this time injected, I'll be honest I was shitting myself as I've never injected a substance I brewed myself, everything else has always been medically prescribed this was sent from China in a dodgy looking envelope, brewed in my kitchen over a cooking hob and filtered with a caulking gun brought from a hardware store
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No pain today from my homebrew so looks like my cookery classes in school paid off! If only my home economics teacher could see me now she would be so proud

Visited gym today and felt very weak, I've been cutting few a few weeks working up to this so I'm not surprissed, diet has been good and I carbed up nicely before the gym but still quite weak, worked up a nice pump all things considered.

Felt especially fresh in the evening despite a solid workout did notice my hands and head were very hot, even my girlfriend mentioned I was roasting. Anyway roll on day 2
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Woke up feeling pretty good, no aches from my workout which makes a change, went for a 15min run in the sunshine before breakfast and felt very fresh for 8am, scoffed a good breakfast and am feeling surprisingly spritly, I feel alot of this due to the knowledge I'm on a new cycle and the happyness this brings me
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Muscles feeling nice and tight today, I feel alot of this is due to coming off my cutting phase, my hands are still feeling very hot so can't really offer a reason for this apart from psychosomatic ( wow long word for me )

Upper chest is feeling a little tight and had a cough through the night, a friend has got a chest infection at the moment so I'm just hoping I havn't caught this, think I'll have to kill him with an axe if he has!

Gym session went well, great pump nothing extra to report.
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That aromasin is probably overkill on 300 test.
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Had a fairly disrupted night and was sweating a little more then normal, we are finally getting a summer here in the UK

Muscles feeling alot fuller today, lots more energy, upper chest feels a little tighter and stomach seems a little bloated in the morning even though I hadn't eaten all night, I've been drinking quite a bit of water and on the scales first thing I'm weighing in at 201 odd as it seems a little quick for weight gain..I've popped my first aromisan to keep estrogen and bloat levels nice and low, I even got a little gyno when I was on my Var only cycle which is practicly unheard of so I'm obviosuly very prone, I also need to keep water retension low for BP reasons.

Definately have a chest infection coming on as I got exhausted walking up one flight of stairs and I'm coughing throughout the day

2nd injection in the quad went well, no blood when aspirating which makes a change
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nice, finally. I would say that you may want to up the test. the whole 300mg deal is for first timers. I don't think you're going to notice too much.
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Definately have a cold coming on, cough is worse and feeling very weak, loaded up on extra carbs and forced myself to go to the gym... I started off very weak and flat but towards the end I felt super charged and had a great pump, after a visit to the sauna and steam room I was surprissed to see I still had a good pump on, normally at this stage I would be looking much flatter.....On the way home I lost my energy fast and I had to literally crawl into bed..luckily I had prepared all my post workout meals so I got up occasionally to micro my meals and back to bed, fell asleep by 10ish and slept all the way through...woke up feeling much better but can still feel my chest is sensitive, taking today off to rest and recuperate.

Weight is at 201 at waking I put this down to water retension, I'm not going to take the aromisan today as my joints feel like they need the extra lubrication, tummy seems a little bloated but nips feel and look fine.

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Definately have a cold coming on, cough is worse and feeling very weak, loaded up on extra carbs and forced myself to go to the gym... I started off very weak and flat but towards the end I felt super charged and had a great pump, after a visit to the sauna and steam room I was surprissed to see I still had a good pump on, normally at this stage I would be looking much flatter.....On the way home I lost my energy fast and I had to literally crawl into bed..luckily I had prepared all my post workout meals so I got up occasionally to micro my meals and back to bed, fell asleep by 10ish and slept all the way through...woke up feeling much better but can still feel my chest is sensitive, taking today off to rest and recuperate.

Weight is at 201 at waking I put this down to water retension, I'm not going to take the aromisan today as my joints feel like they need the extra lubrication, tummy seems a little bloated but nips feel and look fine.
you must be supersensitive to aromatizeing to be bloating after 7 days of long ester test at 300 mg .
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Agreed I got gyno when I ran only Var which doesn't even aromatize, I think the the hair meds I take ( Propecia ) are the cause..whatever the reason that's why I'm running the aromisin like my life depends on it otherwise I'll be sporting a bra by the end of this cycle
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Does lucky star his own threads or what?
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Just had one of the best workouts this year, great strength, great staminia, great pump, I felt very full and strong before even walking into the gym and once I had lifted a few weights I was already getting a solid pump all over, infact my T-shirt was digging into my arm pits so I know I'm not imagining things here.....I've made a slight increase in strength but I put this down to just being a hell of a lot more energized I just don't want to stop!!

On the negative side I coudn't finish off last night with my girl, she had the shitest music on and I just wasn't up for it which is a bit fucked up, I walked off feeling like shit and she certainly wasn't impressed! I've heard elevated estrogen levels can lower sex drive but it's prob just down to me being a bit fucked up in the head lately, nothing to do the cycle IMO.

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No real updates today, just feeling and looking alot fuller, sex drive seems lower, surprissing considering I'm on Test! I'm not taking an AI at the moment so my elevated estrogen levels may be causing this...I'm trying to stay off aromisan as it makes my achiles tendon as stiff as fuck...apparantly a known side effect from it drying out your joints and tendons. I also like the extra lubrication the elevated estrogen levels gives my joints, especially since I'll be lifting more weight as the Test starts to kick in.

So far I'm really impressed by the Test, my general energy has increased and in the gym the difference is immense...can't wait to see what happens in the coming weeks
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Good luck on your journey mate. loved my test journey, so much so Im gutted Im coming off soon
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On the negative side:

I've had a little trouble with bloat and my nips started getting pretty itchy, so I popped 12.5mg of Aromisan which helped the itchy nips ( took 24hrs ) but I still felt bloated so at the moment I've been taking 25mg ED for the last 2days, hands still feel a little swollen but only when I make a fist, I feel a little flatter as a result but the bloat was starting to raise my BP, I've suffered heart palitations in the past and a few skipped beats this made a sudden comeback but now the bloat is down I'm feeling much better...

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What a fantastic couple of days, I could go into more detail but two words pretty well sum it up.

ENERGY!

STRENGTH!

Both are complety off the scale and I'm absolutely loving it! Var and Tbol have nothing on Test!! Test gives me a surge in energy and strength that I've never felt before in my life!!

Role on the rest of my cycle cos it's starting out real well
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Yeah thx man, enjoyed your log! It had lots of extra info that most people leave out....best thing about being off is looking fwd to your next cycle so don't sweat it
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The part about this that makes me LOL is that I'm shooting 300 test EOD and I haven't even noticed anything yet except the occasional hot flash and the sex drive is up a bit.
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Maybe your body's building up a tolorance to the test and perhaps limiting the effectiveness.
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Well think about it, we're made so much the same and yet look at how differently something like this effects us.
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Since taking the aromisan for the last 4 days my sex drive has shot up...I put this down to my estrogen levels dropping, I look much better in front of the mirror and my stomach isn't bloated, my nips still feel a little senstive but you can't expect the cells to revert within days...I'm now taking 12.5mg ED as originally planned I think I only needed the 25mg to get rid of the buildup...anyway I'll keep monitoring.

Definately enjoying the extra sex drive, nothing worse then being dead from the waist down!

Weight has dropped to 198 naked first thing in the morning, I still look alot fuller and definately more definition...amazing how a little bloat mess's up your whole shape also my upper chest felt alot more pressure and my BP was raising..estrogen is definately not good for me!

I've still got a little chest infection going on from 7days ago , visited my GP today who has put me on Amoxicillin, I don't believe this should affect my cycle but please chime in if you have heard any different.

Injections are going well, absolutely zero pain..I'm currently injecting 75mg EOD for extra practice and more stable blood levels again let me know if this is a bad idea but I assumed 4 times a week would yield more stable levels then once or twice a week....I seem to remember a web site that worked this out for you, anyone have it ?

I havn't injected into my glutes since the first injection, I really don't like glute injections as I can't aspirate very well due to the angle and I'm never quite sure if the needle is going into the muscle.

As always energy is good and I'm much more energetic about nearly everything and that includes sex again
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