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Old 09-10-2007, 02:50 PM   #76 (permalink)
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I'm obviously highly estro so not sure if AIFM would be strong enough but isn't there a risk letro can make your estrogen levels too low...I've heard of figures as low as 98% at even minute dosages ?
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my nips flare up just looking at my loaded pin...lol

I pump about 3 squirts of letro a day...it's like .75mg a day and it keeps me in check. I can still get a solid boner, it keeps most the water off. It probably throws my lipids out of whack but it's not that much of a concern for me.
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lol just checked my weight upto 209lbs, now that's some quick water retention!
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Old 09-11-2007, 06:05 PM   #79 (permalink)
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Vision seems a little better today, I took 3 squirts of AIFM last night but I only have about two applications left so I've ordered some more AIFM in the mean time...I've no cast iron proof if AIFM is the way to go as there are no scientific studies on it... but the sides of Letro and Adex on Cholesterol levels put me off for the time being...although if bloat gets to bad and AIFM doesn't cover it then letro and adex could become my new best friend

Muscles are feeling really full today and I'm having to buy some new Tshirts as my current ones are getting too small.

I'm feeling alot more agressive towards people and I blame this more on the uncomfortable feeling of bloat. I'm keeping calm on the outside but starting to steam out my ears lol Hopefully I can keep a lid on things!

I'm tightening my diet up a little more and dropping fats down a little more, I'm increasing my intake of red meat and adding more oats into my diet. I love the feeling oats give me, I can drink 100grams in about 30 seconds ( just mixed with cold water )

Injection was a little messy today, first hit another nerve, changed needles, hit a vein, changed needles and 3rd time lucky, lost a little oil each time I changed needles and also when getting rid of the blood.
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you don't have to change needles so much. I poke through two or three stoppers, then sometimes it takes a second poke in the skin to go, it doesn't hurt that much more.
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you don't have to change needles so much. I poke through two or three stoppers, then sometimes it takes a second poke in the skin to go, it doesn't hurt that much more.
Yeah I know it's not essential but I have like a million needles so why take the risk
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Old 09-14-2007, 07:35 PM   #82 (permalink)
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AIFM arrived today, took 3days so that's some seriously quick service! Eyesite is getting slowly better but still a bit blurey. I'm using 3 squirts a day and bloat seems fine, definately under control, so AIFM seems to get the thumbs up so far.

Weight is still around the 200 mark with me jumping up around the 207 mark in the evenings on and off...in the mirror I'm looking great and the best I've ever, ever looked.... I wish my weight in the morning would be higher as 4lbs gain jusy doesn't give my size increase justice, unless I've lost bodyfat but again I don't think so....anyway I'm starting to agree with other people the scales are useless and really don't mean shit! It's the mirror that counts I'll just keep saying that to myself evertime I see 200lbs on the scale

Haven't been taking the HCG for a while, makes my skin itch and makes my heart skips much worse, balls have shrunk a little so next week I'll run it regardless of sides.

Injections are still going ok, jabbed my tricep yestersday and hit something painful no idea what ? but I guess you can't make 1" deep holes in ur body without it getting a little pissed off every now and then
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Wheres your workout routine? Id like to see your exercises and how much weight your pushing.
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Wheres your workout routine? Id like to see your exercises and how much weight your pushing.
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Mon - 8am Cardio@ 20mins / 1pm Arms/Chest @ 1hr
Tues - 8am Cardio @ 20mins
Wed - 8am Cardio@ 20mins / 1pm Shoulders/Back @1hr
Thur - Legs/Cardio @45/15mins split
Fri - 8am Cardio@ 20mins /
Sat - Rest
Sun - Rest

The weight I lift is nothing special and I never go for 1 rep max's, seems to risky in my opinion


by the way I found it impossible to come last night, after failing at sex I went to the bathroom tried to wack off but no go, girlfriend left I tried to wack off! in the end 3 trys later I finally came but it was shit and hardly any goo....I was pisssed off and disapointed! still I had worked up a good all over body pump

Hopefully HCG will sort me out again

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Old 09-18-2007, 06:10 PM   #85 (permalink)
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Smile Day 44

Started HCG today, feel great and much more relaxed. This is the same feeling I found last time when starting it for the first time. It's probably just in time as my balls have definately shrunk with them losing around a 30% to 50% of the normal size.

Fantastic workout today felt incredibly strong no increase in weights just feeling alot more confident with the weight I'm already lifting.

Mood wise i'm feeling alot more calm, I don't feel like a steaming tea pot any longer lol

Weight on the scales has been 202lbs naked first thing in the morning and 207ish in the evenings.

I'm now taking around 5 squirts of AIFM ED, bloat seems none existant and nips are fine with zero itch or sensivity.

Energy levels are incredible I'm the first one up in the morning and thoughout the day/evening when everyone else is knackered I'm still supercharged, and yet getting to sleep is no problem and I'm sleeping very well.

It really is a fantastic steroid Testosterone, practicly zero sides at this dose and all the benifits
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Old 09-19-2007, 09:22 AM   #86 (permalink)
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8AM AND 1PM WORKOUTS???? do you have a job? I'm in the office from 6am to 6pm and i rarely break for lunch.
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Old 09-19-2007, 10:19 AM   #87 (permalink)
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lol no I have a pretty relaxed office 10am start and 6pm finish with 2hr lunch breaks when I need them...comes in handy for the gym
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lol no I have a pretty relaxed office 10am start and 6pm finish with 2hr lunch breaks when I need them...comes in handy for the gym
that's awesome. I'm working 12 hours days and sometimes saturdays so I dragggg my ass in the gym sometimes. Once I get going though I'm all good.
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that's awesome. I'm working 12 hours days and sometimes saturdays so I dragggg my ass in the gym sometimes. Once I get going though I'm all good.
I hear ya bro. It takes me some dose of caffiene and ephedrine to get my blood flowing. It's been awhile since I've worked out without taking anything pre-workout.
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yeah I used to work away Mon-Fri so had to pay for two gym memberships, I used to get called out at 3am in the morning.....lifes much easier these days and my body definately appreciates the extra rest i'm getting....hard to imagine how I ever coped or grew before with so little rest.

Imagine getting paid to just eat, train and sleep...heaven

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Smile Day 47 ( 7 weeks ) 6-10lbs up

Some more progress pics, weight is now up to 202 in the mornings and 208ish in the evenings, feeling fantastic and finding it hard to buy enough food! I'm eating like a frate train and I'm hungry 60mins later...my diet has suffered a little just so I can keep the calories high enough!

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Old 09-21-2007, 07:48 PM   #92 (permalink)
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Looks like you've out on a few solid pounds of muscle already.
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Lookin good. Only thing I would improve on are your pics, they suck. lol
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Lookin good. Only thing I would improve on are your pics, they suck. lol
lol I know, i nearly didn't upload em but thought fugg it there better then nothing

I don't understand how people take pics, I can't take em at home as I don't have a home gym.....when I'm at the gym I can't just stand in the middle of the gym or changing room taking pics as people would think I'm a stupid knob....

so I have to go into a narrow toilet where I can't even do a double bicep pose balance my shit camera on a clothes hook..... and well to cut a stupid story short that's why they suck
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lol why do you need a gym to take pictures? the pump?
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Yeah cold pics are ok but nothing beats a good pump to show progress
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Looks like you've out on a few solid pounds of muscle already.

It may only be a 7 lbs or so but seems to have gone to all the right parts...mainly not my waist
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Hey man great updates. For the love of God please keep us posted all the way through PCT. It's so hard to find anyone that does this. The cycles the fun part, but I'd like to know what I'm in for afterwards too.

I'm looking to do a very similar cycle as you.

BTW - what was your original issue w/not using nolva?
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Hey man great updates. For the love of God please keep us posted all the way through PCT. It's so hard to find anyone that does this. The cycles the fun part, but I'd like to know what I'm in for afterwards too.

I'm looking to do a very similar cycle as you.

BTW - what was your original issue w/not using nolva?
I think alot of people don't update during/after pct as they lose so much water weight that the updates become embarrassing and there 25lb gains drop to a much more realistic 10lb gain, which is still excellent but not what people want to admit.

I did some pretty good updates on my pct with the Tbol and Var cycles in my sig...but essentially Nolva really fugged me up bad..I got about every side there was , dizzy, real bad eyesite which took ages to get back to normal, headaches, heart palpitations.... I have Toremifene for this cycle which is a fairly new pct drug in bb, most people who have tried it seem to luuuuuuuuuurve it and have felt back to normal far quicker then nolva and clomid, plus it is suppossed to be far less toxic.....fingers crossed.
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