Test E Cycle - 3rd Cycle

[Lucky13]

Originally Posted by PARKER27

That's amazing how fast you felt a difference. It takes me about 4 weeks to really 'feel it'.

Has the hair line been affected yet? or is everything you're using to combat it seem to be working?

Good luck.... post some pics.

Hair seems fine so far, no shedding....problem is hairloss takes months to see the damage your doing so only time will tell....

Hopefully the hairmeds are helping I would have felt alot safer going into this with dutisteride + finasteride but I had to drop the dutisteride when I realised it was giving me heart palpitations.

[Lucky13]

Originally Posted by outlawtas2

I know exactly what you mean. And the bigger you get, the bigger pumps you get. Arnold wasn't lying lol.

Pumps are grazy, loving every minute

[Lucky13]

Thought I would do a quick update on all the sides.

Surprissed I'm not getting any acne as I get a little even off cycle, I do have 2-3 showers a day anyway so maybe that helps, I'm not sweating anymore then normal so again that probably helps. My hands feel a tiny bit swollen as when I clench my fist there seems to be a little more pressure then normal although there is no visable sign of bloat anywhere else on my body, I might up the dosage of aromisan to 25mg tonight to see if that helps.

Sex drive wise I have constant boners, morning/noon and night...it's actually a bit annoying but my girlfriend seems to enjoy it

As above I havn't had any noticable hairloss or shedding.

No change in my anger management, if anything Test has improved my moods..the only time I felt a little agitated was when I had a little bloat...after a few days on aromisan that was gone and I felt super calm again. Estrogen definately isn't good for me.

Injections are going very well, I inject EOD and havn't had one single painful injection yet, I'm only using a 25g ( 23g to draw ) so that must help

Bizarely I actually look forward to the injections, it's not every day you get to turn yourself into a mini superman with a liquid so I just love doing it....gym tommorow and I can't fucking wait

[Lucky13]

Been weighing in the last few days at 201 naked first thing wahoooo and commonly 205ish during the evenings, I've upped the dosage of aromisan now to 25mg ED before bed and also another 12.5mg first thing in the morning, I've read 25mg surpresses 80% of estrogen within 24hrs but that's at normal ranges of Testosterone, so I've upped it a little to try and take this into account...I don't get any sides from aromisan and I havn't read anything do bad to make me concerned about higher dosages...not like Nolva or clomid!!!

Workout was good yesterday but I suffered quite a dozen or so skipped heart beats although I was pushing myself pretty hard!

Energy levels are still really good much better then normal, I get up most mornings and go for a 20min run on a empty stomach, this is more for cardio health rather then fat loss, seems to keep my heart beat a little happier.

Sex drive is a bit odd, I have constant boners and i'm seriously in the mood but I can't come that easy, it's also a bit disapointing when I go to lay a few lines down on my girl and not much comes out..I don't reckon she's realised and once I start the HCG I'm hoping that will cure that problem as I've heard cum shots make a "cum" back boom boom

[Lucky13]

A few cold progress pics

[Lucky13]

Started HCG today at 250i.u every 3days, balls have shrunk a little so will be interesting to see how quickly they come back up.

Joints are feeling alot stronger and this makes sense as Test aparantly increases collagen synthesis at low doses it's only at higher doses it actually weakens them....this info is from a few studies I've read but certainly feels like it's happening

Skin is also looking better, havn't read up on this but I seem to remember a article related to Test HRT and skin condition.

Lifted my personal record today on quite a few exercises, strength and desire to lift heavy weights is just of the scale for me personaly, much more then I ever got with Var or Tbol!

If my hair stays on my head and my heart palpitations hold together, Test will become a great friend of mine

[ManOfMuscle]

Originally Posted by Lucky13

Sex drive is a bit odd, I have constant boners and i'm seriously in the mood but I can't come that easy, it's also a bit disapointing when I go to lay a few lines down on my girl and not much comes out..I don't reckon she's realised and once I start the HCG I'm hoping that will cure that problem as I've heard cum shots make a "cum" back boom boom

This is pretty standard for me, and yes hcg should help "normalize" things. If I read correctly you are doing 37.5 mg aromasin per day? That seems awfully high.

[Lucky13]

Not sure how fast this HCG works but definitely came a lot easier this morning, also had a massive come shot!!…the first symtom could easily be in my head but the second one seemed pretty conclusive

I also slept a lot better last night and woke up feeling very refreshed, my mood seems improoved…I did a little research and found quite a few studies regarding mood enhancement whilst on HCG,

Loss of LH/FST also downgrade thyroid function and HCG has LH and FST properties. You nay feel more 'energy' and this might be part of the mood improvement. . ..

[Lucky13]

Originally Posted by ManOfMuscle

This is pretty standard for me, and yes hcg should help "normalize" things. If I read correctly you are doing 37.5 mg aromasin per day? That seems awfully high.

I tend to know when my estrogen levels get to low as my achiles tendon and back start to ache and feel stiff, I'm not getting any of that so I'm fairly confident the dose is ok...Aromisan isn't anywhere near as strong as letro which I've seen quite a few people use, so I'm not too concerned.

Letro can reduce estrogen levels by 98% or greater; clinically a dose as low as 100mcgs has been shown to provide maximum aromatase inhibition (2)!

[ManOfMuscle]

Yeah, I wasn't concerned about the dose for safety concerns, more just the fact that you may be wasting it and aromasin is fairly spendy.

[Lucky13]

Originally Posted by ManOfMuscle

Yeah, I wasn't concerned about the dose for safety concerns, more just the fact that you may be wasting it and aromasin is fairly spendy.

Ahh ok I stocked up before the China suppliers went under have enough for 10 years

[Lucky13]

Not sure if I'm somehow illergic to the HCG but I had 50 or so skipped heart beats last night and very itchy skin all over nearly went to ER but after popping a valium 2mg it got a little better.

Today i've gone to see a specialist who has fitted a 3 point ECG for 24hrs, so i'll keep monitoring.

I had also tried dropping the aromisan to 25mg and felt quite bloated last night which I don't think helped!

So at the moment I'm not sure what caused it....either the HCG ( doubtfull ) or bloat ( more then likely )

Either way I've upped the dose of aromisan today back up to 25mg before bed and 12.5mg in the morning. Feeling much better today.

[ManOfMuscle]

If I had it to do over again I would have bought enough test powder to start my own UGL, and then kept it all for myself.

[Lucky13]

Originally Posted by ManOfMuscle

If I had it to do over again I would have bought enough test powder to start my own UGL, and then kept it all for myself.

I know we never knew how good we had it till it was gone!!

I have enough for a good few years but I wish I had mooooore!

[Lucky13]

Great gym session today, new records on all my weights, I didn't look as big but I'm dropping alot of my reps to 8 only these days so not as big a pump, I used to do 8-12 reps when off but this was so form didn't suffer...I'm so effing strong at the moment that I can lift 8 with alot of weight but still maintain perfect form, it fucking amazing the difference and I'm really not sure where the limit is at the moment..I don't want to risk an injury so I'm not gonna suddenly lift anything stupid and rip something...I personaly think I'm at the stage where my muscles and drive to lift heavy is stronger then my ligaments and tendons....


I only suffered a few skipped heart beats during todays gym session so I was a little happier, dropping the reps to 8 definately helps relieve the pressure on my heart, but I still felt like it was gonna pop out my chest!....I also gave my ECG heart monitor back today, I caught quite a few skipped beats during this 24hrs so hopefully my Doc can advise me what sort of fault my heart is having....I have to wait 7-14 days for the results.


Injection today went a little funny about half way in I must have hit a nerve and my leg spasmed so I withdrew changed needles and went for the other leg, with EOD injections I guess I increase my odds on hitting something. I know every 3 days is better but at the moment I wierdly enjoy injecting, the more I inject the more I feel I'm on a cycle if that makes any sense.

Boners are still an issue, I spend about 80% of the day either with a full on boner or half a boner, going to the toilet is tuff and going in the jacuzzie/steam room/sauna is also a little tricky...infact I wack off so often my dick is actually sore, I can't be assed to have sex as it's to often!


Weight is still at 200ish in the morning and 205 in the evenings but this is with zero bloat and a very clean diet, when you actualy pick up 1lb in weight you realise most people could never relisticly put on more muscle then this in a week so I'm not to fussed, gains are slow and steady and that's what I'm after... I just hope there not to slow

[ManOfMuscle]

Keep pushing yourself for strength. The strength increase you get from steroids is the opportunity to build more muscle than you would have been able to otherwise.

[Lucky13]

Yeah the extra weight seems to be kicking my CNS, I feel mentally exhausted after the gym these days....

Feel like I need to add more red meat to my diet, I eat alot of chicken but nothing seems to help me recover like red meat....Steak backs me up if I eat it to much so I'm reading up on potatoe beef stew, I can make shit loads and slow cooking should help me digest it.

[Lucky13]

Just brought a pressure cooker and making my first beef stew ( carrots, onions, garlic, potatoe, red wine ) seems pretty easy and with the big pot I can cook shit loads at once...aparantly the pressure cooker makes the meat fall apart and much more tender and makes cooking a 2hr stew ready in 30mins....I don't really know what the hell i'm doing but it sure sounds tasty and healthy with shit loads of protein and clean carbs...

[outlawtas]

Originally Posted by Lucky13

when you actualy pick up 1lb in weight you realise most people could never relisticly put on more muscle then this in a week so I'm not to fussed, gains are slow and steady and that's what I'm after... I just hope there not to slow

What? 3lbs of muscle a week isn't possible? lol.

Logs looking good, keep up the hard work. What are you lifts btw, you don't mention any numbers

[Soul Rebel]

Definitely looking bigger than the last pics you posted. Keep up the good work.

[Lucky13]

Originally Posted by Soul Rebel

Definitely looking bigger than the last pics you posted. Keep up the good work.

Thanks dude put alot of commitement in but going back to natty for 3months was really tough, each time I do a cycle training natty after gets harder and harder

[Lucky13]

Originally Posted by outlawtas2

What? 3lbs of muscle a week isn't possible? lol.

Logs looking good, keep up the hard work. What are you lifts btw, you don't mention any numbers

lol yeah I wondered how long till someone asked I've actually dropped alot of weight over the past 6months due to a shoulder injury, infact when I see other peoples numbers I don't even come close, I'd like to say I'm all show and no go but I'm not even all show lol

[Lucky13]

Noticed my vision getting really poor these days, I've never been able to find anything on aromisan and occular toxity or vision problems so have assumed it was safe......recently I found a friend who worked in drug testing anti cancer drugs for some of the biggest companys like Glaxosmith anyway she has tested some of the favourites i.e Tomoxifene, Aromisan.... to cut a long story short it turns out aromisan can affect vision...Since upping the dose to 37mg ed I definately noticed a shift for the worse with my vision.

I'm going to try and lower the dose but then i'm likely to run into problems with estrogen and heart palpitations...I might be stuck in a catch 22 here so i'm going to give it a few days and play it by ear....my eyesites not worth the risk no mater how well the cycles going, also the heart palpiations make training impossible.... the last thing i wanna do is stop the cycle so fingers crossed

[Lucky13]

Droped my aromisan to 12.5mg 2days ago and 0mg last night, vision feels alot better and bloat isn't to bad so far. Infact I'm looking shit loads fuller as a result which is kinda nice although obviously not real weight. My joints are feeling very strong and for the first time in nearly 6months I was able to do chest without any pain in my shoulder.

Also lifted a record weight with 3 sets of 38kg x 8 on bent over concentration curls, I was on 24kg before starting this cycle so that's a massive improvement for me

Am now lifting 30kg x 8 x 3 for hammer curls again a personal best for me.

I've got a little AIFM left over so will use this once bloat gets to bad to cope or nips become sensitive, also been trying to find some adex or even Letrozole to replace the aromisan....need to do some reading up on all the above as I'm not to familiar with them.

Need to also check with the makers of AIFM if this can also affect vision ??


Off to scoff some beef stew which by the way tastes like shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit!!!

[Aztech]

I prefer letro