Test E Cycle - 3rd Cycle

[Lucky13]

Originally Posted by ManOfMuscle

Well think about it, we're made so much the same and yet look at how differently something like this effects us.

That goes pretty much without saying otherwise all of us would be running exactly the same cycles, same PCT and get the same results.

imo I'd prefer to get affects from lower doses, it's cheaper for starters and perhapse better on the lipids and other intertwined body functions...I personally don't think I will ever be able to handle higher doses without high sides, but in the same space I should be able to get benifits at lower dosages too...so really things should just equal out.

[Lucky13]

Originally Posted by ManOfMuscle

Imho it takes a lot longer than 10 days for test-e to do anything, at least for me. On my first cycle it took almost 6 weeks to get noticeable strength gains.

Despite what everyone says Test E is absorbed almost straight away into the blood stream, sure not at maximin dose but alot more then naturally produced, why woudn't you start getting effects ? even when the body peaks it's natty levels during the night many guys wake up with morning boners and that's at only a few mg....inject 150mg of Test E and the body will know very quickly...sure strength will take alot longer as that needs the break down and regrowth of muscle cells.

[Aztech]

Test E is very slow....three weeks is the miminal to notice results from it. Anything else is your head. Weight gain can be from increased calories which gives you more strength in the gym....but it isn't from the test e. Test p on the other hand is great. Upp'ing the dosage is quite noticable in about two workouts.

[Lucky13]

Originally Posted by Aczech

Test E is very slow....three weeks is the miminal to notice results from it. Anything else is your head. Weight gain can be from increased calories which gives you more strength in the gym....but it isn't from the test e. Test p on the other hand is great. Upp'ing the dosage is quite noticable in about two workouts.

Ahhh yeah I agree with strength gains and real muscle weight gain take many weeks but as far as symtoms of increased Test levels go I think you will feel this alot sooner, i.e sex drive will be very quick to change, energy levels, fullness of muscle...

Real results take time but side effects would be much quicker, that's all I'm getting at

[Cartman281]

subscribed, this looks like a good read when I have a minute

[Lucky13]

Originally Posted by Cartman281

subscribed, this looks like a good read when I have a minute

Don't count on it

[ManOfMuscle]

Originally Posted by Lucky13

Despite what everyone says Test E is absorbed almost straight away into the blood stream, sure not at maximin dose but alot more then naturally produced, why woudn't you start getting effects ? even when the body peaks it's natty levels during the night many guys wake up with morning boners and that's at only a few mg....inject 150mg of Test E and the body will know very quickly...sure strength will take alot longer as that needs the break down and regrowth of muscle cells.

The half life is two weeks.

[Lucky13]

Originally Posted by ManOfMuscle

The half life is two weeks.

Maybe you should stop reading the label...

It doesn't mean you get zero Test for two weeks, look at the picture and what day 1 looks like!

Or try this Steroid Calculator and look how levels shoot up on day 1 and increase very quickly above natural levels.

http://www.steroidsource.net/calculator.htm

[Lucky13]

Diet was completly off today and I wasn't able to carb up before going to the gym, normally if this happened I would feel very weak and flat, getting a good pump would have been tough...instead I felt strong and immediatly got a solid pump on, energy was also way up and I ended leaving the gym feeling very fresh....it's surprissing to see how relaxed you can get with diet and poor prep when you have extra help from something like Test...

Nips feel much better today and no sign of bloat, 12.5mg Aromisan ED seems to be keeping it at bay.

Sex drive is still up and all woman seem to be looking way more atractive, I even looked twice at an older woman WTF!

[Lucky13]

I did Test E blood release graph using 3 different examples of dosing Test E over 5weeks....

1) 300mg Test E EW

2) 150mg Test E E4D

3) 75mg Test E EOD

Taking another look, it looks like the best option is 150mg's every 4 days, this gives you the highest dosing and good even blood levels around the 40-50mg mark after 2weeks, 75mg EOD ended with 30-40mg and 300mg EW the worst with huge peaks from 20mg-60mg.

[Lucky13]

Incredible strength in the gym today, feeling fantastic and looking better then ever! I have zero bloat ( with the aromisan 12.5mg ED ) and weighing in at 199 naked first thing in the morning, during the afternoon and evening I'm now commonly 202/3. When I break 200 first thing in the morning it will be a great feeling

My waist is looking pretty good and I swear i'm losing a little fat of hard to shed adominal area but to soon to say, may just be in my head.

I'm still injecting 75mg EOD at the moment as I like the extra injection practice, injections are going well...had a very sharp pain when I did my last one and today I have a dime/10p sized bruise so I'm guessing I hit something on the way in, no pain or warmth so I'm not concerned.

I looked up when doing my concentration curls today and really was shocked to see how big I'm looking, not much weight increase so far but the fullness/pump you get when training is just nuts

If my hair stays on my head and my heart palpitations are ok this could end up being one heeeeeeeeell of a cycle

[ManOfMuscle]

Originally Posted by Lucky13

I did Test E blood release graph using 3 different examples of dosing Test E over 5weeks....

1) 300mg Test E EW

2) 150mg Test E E4D

3) 75mg Test E EOD

Taking another look, it looks like the best option is 150mg's every 4 days, this gives you the highest dosing and good even blood levels around the 40-50mg mark after 2weeks, 75mg EOD ended with 30-40mg and 300mg EW the worst with huge peaks from 20mg-60mg.

I feel like the peaks and troughs might be optimal for muscle building, but certainly not for sides.

[Lucky13]

Originally Posted by ManOfMuscle

I feel like the peaks and troughs might be optimal for muscle building, but certainly not for sides.

If you could time your peaks for when you hit the gym even better but the fluctuation in hormones with such peaks and troughs might affect mood and also make it hard to work out water retention and when to take an AI....I'm gonna stick with the 75mg EOD as it has the most stable blood levels...300mg EW seems like a real roller coaster.

[Aztech]

Originally Posted by Lucky13

I did Test E blood release graph using 3 different examples of dosing Test E over 5weeks....

1) 300mg Test E EW =WEEKLY 300MG

2) 150mg Test E E4D =WEEKLY 262.5MG

3) 75mg Test E EOD =WEEKLY 262.5MG

Taking another look, it looks like the best option is 150mg's every 4 days, this gives you the highest dosing and good even blood levels around the 40-50mg mark after 2weeks, 75mg EOD ended with 30-40mg and 300mg EW the worst with huge peaks from 20mg-60mg.

I don't understand how you made your graph but nobody smart shoots test E once a week. Basis simply what i put i bolded above....the Test E would be WAY higher than the others...so your calculations are are incorrect. It's kinda common sense as well to say an ED injection regime is goin to lead to more stable hormone levels but for test E, E3D is probably the best route. Running prop, ED is best but some people can't take 12 weeks of daily injections so they go eod.

No doubt if you divided up the 300mg into ED shots (42.8mg), you would see the best results...but why would you be shooting test E (a heavier ester with actual less test than prop or suspension) ED when you could be shooting one of the later mentioned for better results?

If I were you, I'd do E3D, save some injections, save some pins. You'll find out soon injecting eod can be a chore sometimes when you have a couple bad injections in a row in the thighs, you find squating quite difficult.

Best of Luck.

[FilipH]

If it's the first time test and you want to shoot EOD, why not go for prop? If you don't like the sides you can stop it fairly easy and fast.

Also, imo you'll only really feel the effect at week 4. If you are around the 18th day, we should talk again in a week :P

But good luck anyway. A good test cycle is the best. I'm on one right now (750mg/week) and luvving it.

[Aztech]

yeh, i'm at 700mg of prop a week now.

[ManOfMuscle]

Originally Posted by FilipH

Also, imo you'll only really feel the effect at week 4. If you are around the 18th day, we should talk again in a week :P

Since he's feeling it like this right now, I can't wait till the stuff actually kicks

[Lucky13]

Originally Posted by Aczech

I don't understand how you made your graph but nobody smart shoots test E once a week. Basis simply what i put i bolded above....the Test E would be WAY higher than the others...so your calculations are are incorrect. It's kinda common sense as well to say an ED injection regime is goin to lead to more stable hormone levels but for test E, E3D is probably the best route. Running prop, ED is best but some people can't take 12 weeks of daily injections so they go eod.

No doubt if you divided up the 300mg into ED shots (42.8mg), you would see the best results...but why would you be shooting test E (a heavier ester with actual less test than prop or suspension) ED when you could be shooting one of the later mentioned for better results?

If I were you, I'd do E3D, save some injections, save some pins. You'll find out soon injecting eod can be a chore sometimes when you have a couple bad injections in a row in the thighs, you find squating quite difficult.

Best of Luck.

I used the below data and placed it into a graph, data was obtained from the http://www.steroidsource.net/calculator.htm so I only have the programers word that his website outputs the correct info. But the graph should be accurate in relation to the data

51 34 22
44 29 29
39 44 25
34 38 31
29 33 27
25 47 33
22 41 28
56 36 34
49 50 30
43 43 35
37 38 30
32 51 36
28 45 31
24 39 36
58 52 32
51 46 37
44 40 32
38 53 37
33 46 32
29 40 37
25 53 32
59 46 37
51 40 33
45 54 38
39 47 33
34 41 38
29 54 33
26 47 38
300mg Test E EW 150mg Test E E4D 75mg Test E EOD


Not sure what you mean above where I have bolded it as they are all Test E ?

[Aztech]

what doesn't make sense is the very first line of data.

you shoot 300mg and get 51mg active test (1/6)
you shoot 150mg and get 34mg active test (1/5)
you shoot 75mg and get 22mg active test (1/3)

my ratios are approx but for the same type of ester, these should be the same.

I think something is wrong with the calculator.

[Lucky13]

Originally Posted by Aczech

what doesn't make sense is the very first line of data.

you shoot 300mg and get 51mg active test (1/6)
you shoot 150mg and get 34mg active test (1/5)
you shoot 75mg and get 22mg active test (1/3)

my ratios are approx but for the same type of ester, these should be the same.

I think something is wrong with the calculator.

Lol oh yeah, maybe someone like DocJ or Mranak might be able to explain that

[thekhan]

[QUOTE=Aczech]Test E is very slow....three weeks is the miminal to notice results from it...

Yeah,
E is very slow and 3 weeks is minimal.I stack it with Sus250 for quick results.
250-250/w is fine.

[Lucky13]

Weighed in today at 201 naked first thing in the morning, went for a run and took a crap and then dropped to 199 lol so doesn't look like I'm at my 200 just yet. I'm still taking the aromisan at 12.5mg ED so have zero bloat.

Gymwise the difference is just insane, my muscles just love to lift infact the muscle bellys got so full of blood today that I seriously thought they might tear i've never had a pump like it, it's sounds rediculous but my skin is stretched so fucking tight when at full pump that I'm really worried i'm going to get stretch marks.

I'm starting to lift more weight and I'm up 4kg on concentration curls, I'm nursing a bad shoulder so I'm not lifting anywhere near my max on my chest excercises, I'm going for form rather then weight. I know it's going to limit my gains but better safe then sorry.

I'm really not sure if I'm losing bodyfat or not, I feel I am but no rock hard proof.

So far Test is getting 10/10

[ManOfMuscle]

Test rules.

[outlawtas]

Originally Posted by Lucky13

gymwise the difference is just insane, my muscles just love to lift infact the muscle bellys got so full of blood today that I seriously thought they might tear i've never had a pump like it, it's sounds rediculous but my skin is stretched so fucking tight when at full pump that I'm really worried i'm going to get stretch marks.

I know exactly what you mean. And the bigger you get, the bigger pumps you get. Arnold wasn't lying lol.

[PARKER27]

That's amazing how fast you felt a difference. It takes me about 4 weeks to really 'feel it'.

Has the hair line been affected yet? or is everything you're using to combat it seem to be working?

Good luck.... post some pics.