2007-08 HGH Cycle 10iu's

[thunderin]

March 11, 2007

This is to document the results from Chinese generic blue cap HGH over the course of a year.

Stats:

Ht: 175cm (5'9")
Wt: 92kg (202lbs)
Age: 40
Bodybuilding for 26 years
AAS Cycles: too many and too many years to remember

Goal:

#1 Permanently replace AAS usage with HGH

Background:

HGH: I began my HGH cycle 3 months ago with 2 iu's ed. Since then, I have increased my daily dosage to 10iu's. After lowering my T4 dosage from its current level, I will maintain it at 100-125mcg ed.

Vitamins and supplements:

Complete array.

Protein:

Min: 190g daily

Injects:

3.3iu's 3:00am
3.3iu's 7:00am
3.3iu's 4:00pm

AAS: I began my AAS cycle in Feb 06, and my weight peaked at 107kg (235lbs). yes, I became a fat slob by eating anything and everything I could get my hands on. Since then, the combination of dieting, cardio and a mild diuretic for my BP has brought my weight down to 92kg (202lbs).

I will not mention my previous AAS dosage due to the high level. I will start an agressive PCT the first week of May.

Cardio:

30-45 minutes 6 x every week (medium intensity cycle)

Muscle training:

5 on 1 off (I train each muscle once per week with every set to failure)

Training music:

Godsmack

Favorite tracks: Temptation and Vamipire

Month 1:

No noticeable difference except for the soreness from my injection sites. Water weight drops quickly.

Month 2:

My stamina with regards to cardio has increased and I started ECA stack. My urine looks a bit oily. Guess that the nasty fat coming out. Stopped smoking again.

Month 3:

My waist is down to 32" from 37". Bought new clothes that fit properly. I stopped the ECA stack because my heart felt like it was beating too fast. Also, my nose was getting raw from the ma huang (natural ephedra) spray inhaler. Started smoking again (really difficult to quit).

Will donate blood tomorrow. believe me, I have way too much. Switched HGH suppliers and quite satisfied with the change.

Here are some pics from today in the next post.

[thunderin]

I know I still have a long way to go, but that's the great thing about bodybuilding.

It's my never-ending endeavor to improve that guy in the mirror.

I most humbly submit my photos.

[thunderin]

3-12-07

I actually ate a few pieces of cheese with bread on a steak sandwich I made. I got about halfway through and started feeling guilty I know it's BS, but I have a conscience.

The only carbs I usually get are from fresh vegetables...no potatoes, bread, noodles. Steamed rice maybe once a day only. Eating lots of kimchi and other Korean side dishes to liven up my chicken breast and tuna.

Ran my GH injections spaced more closely today:

7am
2pm
6pm

My body temp seems to be higher, and I have more energy...like I really need more anyway.

3-13

Had a scare last night. My BP had been going up, and I started getting headaches. I got dizzy in the gym after benching. I checked it and it was 147/102. Mind you, I have run adex for a many months and had added hydrochlorothiazide about 4 weeks ago (100mg ed) when I went over 7iu's per day. I needed something stronger.

I immediately got to the pharmacy as fast as I could and bought spironolactone. Spironolactone and hydrochlorothiazide are the active ingredients in Aldactazide and second only to Lasix for potency. I took 200mg of each and pissed all night long. I took another 150mg of each this morning, and by this afternoon my BP was down to 132/84. I loaded up on bananas today for the potassium. Spironolactone does not strip your body of potassium but hydrochlorothiazide certainly does. Not enough potassium and less water equals bas muscle cramps. I am fine now.

Why did this happen? The GH dose I was taking caused more water retention than I had accounted for, simple.

I will start my HCG 18-20 days from last test decanoate inject, and thus, PCT comes early. Will run HCG at 500iu's ed for 21 days. Adex, nolva and clomid are also part of my PCT, as it will be an agressive one.

Instead of running my GH 7 days per week. I will back off to 5 on and 2 off.

A word of warning to all: Take care with your blood pressure and water retention. (trenbolone, test, anadrol, dianabol and eq)

Funny thing, when I donated blood (400ml) 2 days ago, I felt relief. Many people around me had to lay down after donating only 200ml.

The wife got really pissed off at me.

Life and learn.


Update: I just took my BP this evening, and it was 124/78

3-17

Feeling great the Aldactazide has made a huge difference. I take it in the morning and afternoon (spironolactone 60mg and hydrochlorothiazide 75 x 2) My heart rate has been a bit high though. Possibly due to the T4...so, I have lowered my daily dose to 150mcg.

The long estered test decanoate I was using will take some time to clear my system as will the tren enanthate. On the upside, I can run my anavar longer. I will have to adjust my PCT accordingly.

The half life of the decanoate ester is 15 days and that of enanthate is 10 days. If you inject 450mg of any decanoate the time it will take to clear your system looks like this:

Day 1: inject 450mg decanoate
Day 16: 225mg remain in your body
Day 31: 112.5mg remain in your body
Day 46: 56.25mg remain in your body
Day 51: 28.12mg remain in your body
Day 66: 14mg remain in your body
Day 81: 7mg remain in your body
Day 96: 3.5mg remain in your body

My PCT protocol calls for 2 separate cycles of HCG each 20 days long at 300iu's per day. Of course, clomid, nolva and Arimidex will also be used.

So nice to not have the "Fat Bastard" look anymore, and no one asks me if I am a powerlifter anymore.

Lots more attention from the ladies as well. Too bad though, I'm married Remember, I live in Asia, and 90% of the women here have low to very low bodyfat. Men over 15% and women over 20% bodyfat are not common (even after they have children).

[thunderin]

3-18

Another interesting note on taking a diuretic while using GH is that I have much less swelling in my hands and stiffness in my joints now than before I started taking spironolactone in combination with hydrchlorothiazide.

Could it be that edema in your hands caused by GH use is one of the key contributors to pain and numbness that some people experience while using GH

From my personal experience, I believe it is.

3-22

15 days since my last shot of test dec, and I started my PCT last night with 500iu's of HCG and 20mg's nolva. Obviously, my test levels both exogenous and endogenous are very low, and I should feel like crap. Not so and no ***ression either. I feel like I am on a natural high.

I have never felt so jacked in my life on any PCT. My workout was smokin' hot and the pump was great. My stamina just would not stop either.

My striations seem to get deeper by the day which is no doubt helped by the diuretics. I am totally satisfied and moreMy BP is 128/73.

I now have no doubt that I can permanently replace AAS use with GH, keep all my gains and still take my physique to the next level. All this, and in a much healthier way. Instead of an AAS pumped for life, it will be a shredded and youthful GH pumped for life.

3-25

I am truly amazed. My strength was a good 25% higher today during my leg workout. It basically back to point where it was before I started my diet while on a rather heavy AAS cycle 3 months ago. Even more, I had a stamina that was as good or better than anything I ever got while on my best cycles.

How can this be? I haven't had any AAS in near 4 weeks nor any stimulants either (ECA) and I have cut way down on my coffee consumption, now 1-2 small cups per day.

I had no idea these gains were possible from GH. I can only theorize that it is dose ***endant as I have never run more than 5-6iu's ed during past cycles.

My metabolism is off the scale also. I stay hungry no no matter how much I eat...within a couple of hours I famished again. What's going on?

I am sure my IGF levels are off the scale.

And to boot it all of, I am supposed have a very low sex drive now too. This cycle I just came off was a 13-month cycle that included large weekly doses of both tren and deca, not at the same time, for months on end. Well, it came up while on the LifeCycle, and didn't go down for a good 15 minutes. The girls in tight lycra in front of my on the treadmills might have helped.

I love GH!

3-29

Feeling great! I had dropped to 88kg before I went off the diuretics and I added 5iu's ed of Humulin R. Well "Boom" my weight has skyrocketed to 95.5kg (210lbs), and my strength is off the scale.

I was doing bent over barbell rows with 140kg (315lbs) tonight for sets of 10. I just couldn't get enough, and the aggression was there and strong as well.

I kid you not, this is like the Rolls Royce of sports enhancing substances. And the GH, slin, T4 stack is truly amazing. I feel like I am juiced to the gills, but I have not had any AAS in over 4 weeks. Better sense of well being than even Dbol gives.

Sex drive is strong also. Hell, I was shocked to see that I even had semen coming out of my penis when I took a dump.

The gym girls are great too. Tight ass short lycra shorts and camel toes.
Love that bent over kick back machine. Excuse me...you doing great but can I help you with your form?

I could not be more satisfied. This is no AAS bridge...it is a way of life!

When reading this please keep in mind that i just came off of a 13-month very heavy dose AAS cycle. What I am experiencing is truly extraordinary.

3-30

4 months into the cycle

Results: Too many to mention, but over one month since any AAS and my strength, aggression (almost) and training level are as high as they were when I was running around 2g total AAS per week. The thing is...I have no mentionable sides now.

10iu GH ed
5iu Humulin R (only on muscle training days and 2 weeks on/off)
100-150mcg T4 ed

PCT
500iu HCG ed
.05mg Adex ed
20mg Nolva ed

Diet: min 180g protein and as much rice and potatoes as I want

3-30

Holding some water now so the definition is a bit blurred. Kind of difficult to accumulate bodyfat on 10iu's of GH and with 100-150mcg T4

Stomach is sticking out some due to the volume of food I am eating. But even when it bulges, I still see my abs clearly.

3-31

I was in the pharmacy, and I've been kind of getting tired of using 4 different syringes only for GH not to mention my pins for slin and HCG (total 6 pins per day). The pharmacist shows me the Eli Lily Insulin Injection Pen. I did some quick calculations on whether or not it would be useful, and I bought it along with the disposable injection tips and a cartridge of slin to boot.

4-1

I think my PCT is going well. The wife and I went at it 3 times yesterday and no viagra or cialis in 2 weeks.

4 1/2 weeks without AAS after a 13-month cycle.

She keeps giving me a dirty look....not sure why?

My strength is exploding upwards. I inject my GH and slin both subq. Remember that I am doing 4 injects per day of GH between 7am and 4pm (7am, 10:15am 1:30 and 4p4 As such, I want my slin to be active for the majority of this time so I use Humulin R, and I inject it at 7am. This way it is in my blood stream for most of the period that I am using GH. Another 150mcg of T4 goes on top of that divided up into 3 - 50mcg doses with my GH injects.

I upped my slin dose yesterday to 15iu's and felt great. Just so damn hungry all the time, and I cannot seem to get full.

Smokin' hot Shoulder workout today:

Standing barbell overhead press to back of neck (no belt) 225lbs (100kg) x 6 x 3

Standing barbell upright rows (no belt) 175lbs (80kg) x 6 x 3

Standing dumbell side shoulder raises 50 pounders x 6 x 3

Rear delt dumbell raises 35 pounders x 6 x 3

AAS were never this good to me

4-4

Strength still going up along with my stamina.

Chest day:

Flat bench 315 (140kg) 4 sets x 6 reps

too tired from shoulders to do inclines

4 more sets up incline cable flyes

Nice aggression today too.

Love that huma-pen...my injects are fast, clean, easy and painless.

Chatting up a librarian type who wanted to "practice English" to finish things off

4-7

Have laid off of slin for tha past few days as it was making me too tired. And, as I suspected, I dropped water weight by doing so. Nice to have the extra weight, but the Pillbury Dough Boy look is not what I am after.

Slin combines with GH does give a big boost to strength though. The biggest difference I have noticed since I came off AAS over a month ago is my recovery time. Yes, high does GH will give you more strength, and even more if used in tandem with slin, but it seems to take a few more days to heal up after a merciless workout.

I cannot rave enough about how great the Humapen doubles as a GH injection vehicle. Clean, quick and efficient.

I have cut back my GH injections from 7 on/off to 6 on/off so as not to shut down my own pituitary gland too hard.

*As far as keeping gains from my AAS cycle go, I have not lost any muscle size in the past 5 weeks since I stopped AAS usage.

I haven't posted sooner as I got God of War II for my PS2. Yes, 40 yrs old and an avid PC and PS2 game

4-10

Another amazing workout today. My strength and endurance continue to go up.

Weight 97kg (214 lbs)

Holding less water weight now that I am not running the slin.

Still eating as much protein as I can and almost anything else for that matter.

I have to say that without a doubt, this has been the fastest and best PCT I have ever run in my life. It has been 5 weeks now without AAS, and my sex drive is strong.

*I have not lost any gains at all, and my weight has increased 7kg (16 lbs). My strength is as high now as it was during the peak of my 13-month AAS cycle which included tren e and var among other AAS.

4-13

Weight 98kg (216lbs) and still going up.

Sides have set in a bit.

Is the numbness when writing or typing for a long time from the water retention?

What causes the joint pain?

What is the mechanism that causes so much water retention? My fingers look and feel like sausages.

I thought I was supposed to be sleeping better? I wake up hungry 1-2 times per night and must eat.

Anyway, my strength is high and I feel great.

Have gone to 5 on/ 2 off and will go back on the slin next week. Need to buy another injection pen...one for GH and one for slin

Have taken a couple of days off from the T4. How long have any of you run T4 before? I heard Frank Zane had problems because of it?

Peace

4-14

My heart has been beating really fast also. I went over everything I was taking a came up with that it could only be the T4. Thanks for confirming that.

I am feeling pretty bloated too, but I take aldactazide if it gets too bad.

I just did some research and it shows that T4 has a half life of 5-7 days. Talk about a toxic buildup if taking it everyday!

I was running an ECA stack at the beginning of this GH cycle as I was still finishing up my cutting AAS cycle. My ephedra was in the form of a Chinese ma huang nasal spray. It definitely accelerated fat loss and sped my metabolism up in general. However, I was running it with T4, and I had heart palpitations even while resting, so I dropped it.

I plan on using the ECA stack again in the future, but this time without the T4.

I also had a drop in water weight from it. One of the best ways I have come across to drop water is the use of Aldactazide (spironolactone and hydrochlorothiazide). I had to buy the 2 separately here. 50mg of each 2 x per day with plenty of fluid intake should got rid of the bloat safely within a few days. I increase the dose a bit if I need more water loss. Monitor your blood pressure regularly when using these because it may get quite low if you are not using AAS.

[thunderin]

4-16

Bodyweight 101kg (223lbs)

Now that I have stopped the T4, my weight is going up quicker. The slin is helping me to recover more quickly as well.

7am 10iu's Humulin R and 2.5iu's GH
10am 2.5iu's GH
12:45pm 2.5iu's GH
4pm 2.5iu's GH

I am eating all I want which is a lot.

Meal 1: 7:15am
Meal 2: 10:15am
Meal 3: 12:30pm
Meal 4: 4pm
Meal 5: 7pm
Meal 6: 10pm
Meal 7: 3am (yes, I wake up starving in the middle of the night)

Since I am running Humulin R, I keep a sugary fruit drink in my hand most all of the day. Less sleepy with the addition of the slin, though I have had some heartburn...probably from overeating.

The pumps I am getting are as good or better than I ever got from dianabol or anadrol as is the weight gain.

Still have some definition left, but it is smoothing out from the amount of water I am holding and less joint pain than before.

I cannot say enough about how very pleased I am with the GH slin combo 10iu/10iu. For me, it's fantastic and very clean. Truly the Rolls Royce of performance enhancing pharmaceuticals.

**On another note: a friend of mine who was 3rd in a junior nationals competition a few years back has gone off T4 as well due to a racing hearbeat. He was running it for 6 weeks and peakd out at 175mcg ed.

I think T4 has its place, but I personally don't care much for running it for more than 1 1/2 months.

[thunderin]

My GH and slin cycle has turned into a summer bulker. I am a full 13kg (29lbs) heavier than I was 5 weeks ago, and it's been a week and a half since I dropped the T4. Remember, I have been off AAS for over a month and a half and am well into my aggressive PCT.

I am still eating 6-7 times per day and taking in loads of protein and most any other thing I want to eat too.

Yes, I am holding a lot of water but my BP is fine and I feel great. The only sides are that my fingers feel like oversized sausages and I get a bit of joint pain. Oh yes, I stay hungry almost 24/7. Thank God, food is cheap here ($1.50 US for a kilo of beef)

I know I look like crap, but I am really trying to take myself as far as I can with this. I figure that I'm 40 years old, and if I don't do it now, I never will.

Height 175cm (5'9")
Weight 101kg (223lbs)

I very humbly submit these pics that were taken this evening. The last one is me 13kg (30lbs) lighter 6 weeks ago.

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The transformation:

The first pics are a little more than a year ago. I am now steroid free and over 15kg (33lbs) heavier.

[Thompson31580]

Awesome thread!!! I will be following along the entire way!! The changes are astounding IMO. Simply amazing considering the fact that you arent using ANY AAS!!! I may have to look into this. Drug tests are a part of my career so alternatives with results like this are incredibly appealing. You look awesome. I did GH for a short time many years ago and experienced exactly what you are describing, unfortunately I could afford to stay on it long enough. I hope to be able to do a year plus run of it starting in the latter part of this year..... Keep the updates coming

[thunderin]

Thanks. It is my personal opinion that GH and insulin cycles are the way to go for the experienced and drug tested amateur or professional athlete. Both substances are legal with a prescription and are undetectable by most screening methods.

An added bonus is that GH will keep you young and not mess up your natural testosterone levels. It actually boosts my libido.

[FilipH]

I"m not sure how old this thread is (found on the search function) but a great read !!

[simpllyhuge]

your pretty ripped. how long has it beeen on the gh?

[adidamps2]

looking thick but gyno seems a lil bad too IMHO.

[Lucky13]

What's going on with this thread it was 2 months of training logs all posted from 1st post 04-22-2007, 07:01 AM and then finished on 04-22-2007, 07:24 AM within 23mins ????...was this log cut and pasted from another site ?