Tbol Cycle - 2nd Cycle

[ManOfMuscle]

Originally Posted by Lucky13

I will use Test

We have a breakthrough.

[tbolfist]

Originally Posted by Lucky13

Sounds like your pretty anal about your diet...Good for you tho...Not me...I eat good, but during this cycle I've lost my huge urge to eat good...I eat good, but ill definetly cheat...especially lately...

Yeah I really want this to be a clean bulk, any fat u gain ur always going to lose muscle when u finally have to cut.....shit there's no perfect solution tbolfist how have ur joints been feeling ?[/QUOTE]


Lucky, my joints are feeling great...I was doing 360lb squats the other day, and I feel good...All other joints are the same....

[Warmachine]

i dont see the need to jump all over lucky. if these cycles help him reach his goals then who cares? I dont like cycles without test because you always risk your sex drive. If i was lucky i would have some test on hand or some proviron with some cialis just in case. believe me it is really shitty feeling to be faced with horny chick wanting to fuck and have your dick just be worthless.
besides all that though orals are strong! i like 20-25mg of win,var, and dbol/day. its plenty to see results. 50mg of win a day gave me crippling pumps. im 11 days into my 20mg winny/day (with test lol) and im already feeling shoulder pain.
with higher doses come greater side effects and though some accept this, you dont need to!

i would also imagine that with a short half-life and low androgenic profile these cycles are super easy to recover from hpta wise, especially with the low doses.

[tbolfist]

WTF happend to Lucky...NO posts in 2 days...That kid posts like theres no tomorrow...He probably had enough of bein jumped on....

my pics

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/sh....php?p=1614775

[HeHateMe]

Originally Posted by tbolfist

WTF happend to Lucky...NO posts in 2 days...That kid posts like theres no tomorrow...He probably had enough of bein jumped on....

He's currently online. Maybe he'll entertain us with an update...

[dbol]

Originally Posted by mw101

The weight gained from these cycles will be purely water. Good Luck and smarten up

That statement is garbage.
Test produces massive amounts of water weight. Orals such as tbol, anavar and winstrol all produce lean gains with minimal bloat.
In fact, when i've used winstrol in the past, my body dried out massivley leaving me more ripped than I had ever been.
Dbol and anadrol cause water weight, but lumping all orals together is retarded. An anavar only cycle is perfectly reasonable for a newbie or experienced alike. Especially if your sick of the rapid gains, rapid loss, followed by acne and hair loss caused by many other steroids.
So to use your words "smarten up".

[dbol]

I also might add that it would be good if all the guys posting the comments about adding Test into the cycle, read the whole of this thread!
Its been said about 20 times and its pointless and boring. The guy has planned his cycle and knows what he wants from it so let him get on with it and maybe we can all learn something about T-bol.
Also, why does everyone see the need these days to use such huge doses?
Its pretty well documented that the likes of Arnie and Lou Ferigno used only 5mg a day or an oral only cycle!
I myself, and i'm sure a lot of the other more experienced guys on here will attest to, used to cycle with only 25mg of orals such as dbol in the past. I started using gear 7 years ago and back then, anything above 30mg was seen as massive, and I mean massive. In fact, I first heard of a guy doing 45mg a day of dbol about 4 years ago and I was shocked. I know things change but it seems the boundaries these days are being pushed pretty far and fast too.

[outlawtas]

Update us lucky.

After reading some profiles about T-bol it's actually looking quite good...I loved var but considering T-bol is a fraction of the price almost anywhere you go it's much better on the wallet. I think I'll swap out my var on the next cycle and give Tbol a try. I'll have the tren in there for strength anyways...

[Lucky13]

Sorry guys have had a couple of personal issues, anyway back in the game again and all is full steam ahead

Outlaw I'm fricking love Tbol, i'm sure alot of the sides I have won't be exhibited by others and if people do... it looks like they are only temporary and after a few days you body adjusts...so far Tbol absolutely kicks Vars ass, no painfull pumps and much more definition, the hardness is all there but with a more fuller look...my arms just look huge, there only 16" but the definition and even the muscle belly just looks rounder and full of blood...joints do feel very tender but again this may just be me...

I'll say this for Var though it does feel a million times cleaner, Tbol seems to have a more poisonous feel to it...I'm pretty sure long term use of Tbol would cause me health problems but with Var you could probably use it for years.

[Lucky13]

Just got back from the gym after 3days off, despite everything my diet throughout was immaculate so I don't feel I lost anything, joints feel alot better but still tender but I definately feel my body benifited from the rest..

Gym wise I was absolutely loving it, I just had to laugh when I looked in the mirror it looked stupid, hell I know alot of this is just the on cycle pump but hell I'm gonna enjoy it while I can

Lifting felt solid and super strong but I didn't want to push my joints so I didn't raise anything, appetite felt slightly supressed so eating was much more procedure then desire.... until I tasted my new food....

I've just joined Costco a Supermarket just for traders so you have to buy bulk and fugg me there chicken is delicious I've also brought enough chicken to tie me over for a nuclear war! Tons of new sauces too so some juicy chow coming right up! I just love being on cycle it takes something I already love and makes it 10 times more fun!

I really can't wait till my next gym session, everytime I go seems like Christmas

[tbolfist]

Bro are you and me on the same shit???!!?!?!?!?

Tbol is aiight...Actually feels like a clean juice...I do aggree with you about the sides in the beginning, they do go away...Just make sure your drinkin plenty of water...

Glad that your enjoyin it...

[Lucky13]

Originally Posted by tbolfist

Bro are you and me on the same shit???!!?!?!?!?

Tbol is aiight...Actually feels like a clean juice...I do aggree with you about the sides in the beginning, they do go away...Just make sure your drinkin plenty of water...

Glad that your enjoyin it...

I get all my powders direct from a chem factory in china so I have about as good a source as you can get...I make all my own caps so the potency is guaranteed.....I sometimes wonder when people mention poor gains from Var/Tbol that there source is solid and dosed correcty on the other side everyone behaves differently so who knows...

[tbolfist]

Im taking BD tabs.

[Lucky13]

Some pics 2weeks in to show current condition, 2lbs up so far and 6weeks left

[dbol]

you got any pics of you before you started for comparison.
You certainly look bigger than you did in your pics on your anavar cycle log.

[Lucky13]

No worries I'll do the normal before/after once cycle has finished

[Lucky13]

Another workout another day Didn't feel as pumped today but strength was definately up, it's a bit hard to calculate as I use a machine for lat pull downs but in pulley land it was 15lbs more and it felt an easy 15lbs more.... I tried going back to my old weight and it felt rediculously light!

Sex drive is up again and it's getting hard to take a piss in the night, I have to fight for 5mins to get rid of any boners, hell I'll have to start hitting it with a hammer to get it down and my girlfriend is fed up having my dick stuck in her back all night long

[simpllyhuge]

so lucky so far its improved strength more than var?

also how does it compare in hairloss?

[tbolfist]

Originally Posted by simpllyhuge

so lucky so far its improved strength more than var?

also how does it compare in hairloss?

I'm 8 weeks in...Strenght is definetly up, but Im not a huge fan of Tbol...

Also, not hairloss..

[Lucky13]

Originally Posted by simpllyhuge

so lucky so far its improved strength more than var?

also how does it compare in hairloss?

It's awfull Simply, my hair started to fall out in clumps! .........Na just kidding

No hairloss at all, not even any shock shedding...still it's duration that kills the folicle so I will have a better idea in a few months time...

Next cycle should be EQ and a HRT dose of Test so that will be the real test, I'm about as sensitive as u can get with hairloss.. shit just hanging onto it without any steroids was a losing battle so maybe all these meds are helping in and out of cycles.

[Lucky13]

Originally Posted by tbolfist

I'm 8 weeks in...Strength is definetly up, but Im not a huge fan of Tbol...

Also, not hairloss..

Yeah I'd agree strength is slighty better on Tbol although my joints feel senstive compared to Var which made them like steel, it's probably a good assumption to say both compounds would work veeeery well together.

[RichGenetics]

Interesting post. Keep us updated.

[simpllyhuge]

im afraid of var and hair loss. i have been hearing alot of people say even thou var is known to be the safer bet to other steroids it still can be bad on hair and that tbol is safer.

you disspointed me lucky intill i read you were just kidding. i was like fuck there goes my plan.

tbol fist, now ur gonna have to change ur name since u dont like tbol, it sucks i dont like my handle.

lucky do u take any finastride? and if so only while on? does it affect sex drive for u?

[simpllyhuge]

does any one know what kind of derivative tbol is. I think i remeber hearing it was a test derivative just like eq, not sure thou.

[Lucky13]

Simply I take fin and dut at all times, dosages below:

Anti Hairloss Suppliments:

- Proscar ( Propecia ) @ 1.25mg ED ( GSK $40 for 30x5mg Pills )
- Dutiseride @ .5mg ED ( Dr Reddys $120 for 180x.5mg pills )
- Nizoral Shampoo @ Wash&Go 2xED
- Spironolactone @ 1200mg mixed into Nizoral Shampoo 2xED
- Topical Scalp Cream 5% Spironolactone + 1% finasteride 2xED

I used to be a norwood 2 but now a norwood 0

I've read Tbol is a Test derivative just like EQ, both as far as I've read don't convert to DHT very easily so should be quite safe... Var on the other hand is a DHT derivative so should make your hair fallout quicker then a cancer patient and yet it's rumoured to be the safest.....none of it makes sense!