11-01-2006, 01:53 PM
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I was getting worried about adding BF, I also wanted to make sure my weight gain was as clean as possible so I've added ephedrine in and holy crap this stuff gets you going! I was sat in my chair nearly gnawing my arm off, it seems to work well with the var and really psychs you up!
The var already adds endurance so with the ephedrine, I had no trouble doing my cardio today...infact I would have been happy doubling my time.... but I didn't 
I'm looking into getting a blood test soon, I want to check my liver values and also test levels...I want to see if such a low dose of 20mg is inhibiting me...I know studys show inhibition at 15mg but everyone reacts differenty.
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11-21-2006, 05:21 PM
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Sent off blood test today to check for inhibition, I've now finished my cycle...Just towards the end gyno started to kick in so I started Nolva and within a few days symtoms started to subside...thankgod!!! Loosing your hair is one think but tits followed by gyno surgery is definately not for me!
Was my first day back in the gym today and I was really worried about strength and size loss since stopping the cycle...weights have dropped a tiny amount but my size and muscle hardness are still there.
Looking in the mirror I look much bigger then when I started, total gain so far is 9lbs, down 3lbs so we will see how much of this I continue to keep. I think the main thing this cycle did was improve muscle quality, you can see all types of striations and veins.
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11-21-2006, 05:22 PM
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Pics!
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It's all about staches, lols and brols.
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I hope to someday put up numbers more similar to MoM.
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11-26-2006, 08:02 PM
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Before and after Pics
Definately think my shape has changed for the better, by the end 9lbs up and holding steady. Planning my next cycle already
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12-04-2006, 03:10 AM
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You are 205?
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Its hard to deny that much of Mrcrapshacks posts/threads reek of douchbaggery.
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It's all about staches, lols and brols.
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I hope to someday put up numbers more similar to MoM.
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12-04-2006, 06:04 PM
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Yeah I know most people think I'm 105 
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12-14-2006, 08:51 AM
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A quick update:
I've now finished PCT which was 40, 40, 20mg Nolva for 3weeks. I definately felt shutdown and the results back from the total free testosterone test confirmed this, does Var supress at 20mg ED, the answer is 100% yes, I had a score of 45 on a scale of 46-245, !...pretty rubbish, I actually felt dead from the waist down, very odd looking at a hot bitch and not feeling anything! Reckon I was suppressed for quite a while towards the end although I had a raging sex drive ( DHT from the var is well known for increasing this ) , also during PCT I felt like shit in the gym, I actually ached for 3days after working out and getting a pump was impossible!
On the bright side I'm now back to normal and feel fucking amazing, halleluiah for normal hormone levels! Now I get pumped to fuck in the gym, all my strength has come back plus some, I look bigger then ever, the pics above really don't do this cycle any justice, the ones above are after a hot shower only...I'll try and update with some more pics to show true results....weight is also back up so I lost nothing in the end....would i recomend Var, yes but definately add in a HRT dose of test if you don't like the mood and energy changes from the supression, although this was only towards the end.
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12-17-2006, 08:33 PM
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Final results after PCT, if you can't see the diff your blind Starting weight 190lbs, end weight 202lbs, total gain 12lbs...I'd say I lost BF thoughout so total gain is probably more but that would be guessing..
Before Pics in August, after pics Nov.
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12-17-2006, 08:44 PM
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Looking good. I say good results, considering you only ran var. Looks like 12lbs of lean mass.
Where do you live, Iceland? For god sakes get a tan!
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12-17-2006, 08:52 PM
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haha thanks man, I've had no life for 3months, eat, train, sleep, eat train, sleep.... I'll start living again and get my sorry ass into the tanner
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12-18-2006, 10:09 PM
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...would i recomend Var, yes but definately add in a HRT dose of test if you don't like the mood and energy changes from the supression, although this was only towards the end.
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Wont adding the HRT dose cause heavy estrogen rebound at end of cycle and/or end of PCT?  
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12-20-2006, 04:44 PM
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Wont adding the HRT dose cause heavy estrogen rebound at end of cycle and/or end of PCT? |
You realise an HRT dose of test is around 150mg EW ? Estrogen certainly isn't going to be a problem.
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12-20-2006, 09:48 PM
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I don't think you lost any bf% but it doesn't look like you put any on either, which equates to a nice gain of 10 lbs of muscle. Very good progress considering the amount of gear you were on.
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I hope to someday put up numbers more similar to MoM.
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02-19-2007, 03:31 PM
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You think you got pain?
Come check back with me - About to run 80mg/day LOL
wish me luck.........loved the var many times before, now again!
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03-20-2007, 04:38 AM
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what was your dosage and for how long did u do this cycle?
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03-22-2007, 02:15 PM
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Final results after PCT, if you can't see the diff your blind Starting weight 190lbs, end weight 202lbs, total gain 12lbs...I'd say I lost BF thoughout so total gain is probably more but that would be guessing..
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I know this is an old post but I call serious B.S. on the stats posted. Starting weight190lbs???!!! What are you 7 feet tall? Bro you were more like 150lbs.
I too am a hard gainer like you and this is just constructive criticism so take it as you may. Congratulations on your gains but if you want people to take you seriously then I would suggest being more honest. Keep up the hard work
PS if you look at the picture hanging in the background or the coat hooks in the other pics. You could easily judge that you are at the most maybe 5-8 .
5-9 on a good day with boots on. This of course is in realtion to your claim of being 190 and then 202 which is crap. FYI, your body weight doesnt really mean shit. Its how you look and what you can lift that counts. The sooner you get this the better off you'll be.
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03-29-2007, 02:28 PM
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I know this is an old post but I call serious B.S. on the stats posted. Starting weight190lbs???!!! What are you 7 feet tall? Bro you were more like 150lbs.
I too am a hard gainer like you and this is just constructive criticism so take it as you may. Congratulations on your gains but if you want people to take you seriously then I would suggest being more honest. Keep up the hard work
PS if you look at the picture hanging in the background or the coat hooks in the other pics. You could easily judge that you are at the most maybe 5-8 .
5-9 on a good day with boots on. This of course is in realtion to your claim of being 190 and then 202 which is crap. FYI, your body weight doesnt really mean shit. Its how you look and what you can lift that counts. The sooner you get this the better off you'll be.
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To be totally honest, what you can lift doesn't mean squat.
How you look, now that's a different story. I could care less what I weigh, and how much I can lift.
That's just ridiculous.
Each to his own though. 
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02-03-2008, 01:37 AM
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Are those pics for real? I am glad I'm not a hardgainer~! 185lbs 5'10" woohoo! Only three cycles of winn! Either way I think not bad for just a little var. Dissapointing to know that var shuts down natural production.
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09-12-2008, 06:43 PM
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im a bit confused
whats all this talk about pumps are painful?
never heard of this even using 1gram test weekly + 100mg tren ED
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10-08-2008, 01:26 AM
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Wow. Blast from the past! I read this thread when it was originated! lol
I am actually planning a Test Cyp and VAR cycle next...
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