Lean on Me - 1st Cycle Journal

[MilkDaScow]

if I had to guess, I would think that its the D-Bol that is giving you the gyno problems... If you are going to drop it soon, I bet continuing the A-Dex for a little while longer and only running the Test, you'll see a drastic decrease in the problems with the nipples...

I felt the Test E kick in fully around week 5 and from then on the gains came in leaps and bounds not small increments

Be careful not to gain too much body fat, as you've worked so hard to drop all the body fat previously

[leanbody]

Originally Posted by MilkDaScow

if I had to guess, I would think that its the D-Bol that is giving you the gyno problems... If you are going to drop it soon, I bet continuing the A-Dex for a little while longer and only running the Test, you'll see a drastic decrease in the problems with the nipples...

I felt the Test E kick in fully around week 5 and from then on the gains came in leaps and bounds not small increments

Be careful not to gain too much body fat, as you've worked so hard to drop all the body fat previously

Hey Man -
Last week for d-bol. Hard to believe those tiny pills do anything but WTF - something is working! Good point about the fat - I'm all over that - def don't wabt to have to cut a ton of fat after all this. Even passed up hot homemade berry pie & ice cream tonight. Don't get me started....

[MilkDaScow]

Originally Posted by leanbody

Even passed up hot homemade berry pie & ice cream tonight. Don't get me started....

bad choice... I wouldn't have even done that hahaha

[leanbody]

Originally Posted by MilkDaScow

bad choice... I wouldn't have even done that hahaha

Hahaha - Maybe, but i didn't pass on the hot cherry pie over the weekend....


Tuesday

Hey guys - was kind of a rest day - did shoulders & back to the max yesterday - - only supposed to do cardio today but WTF thot I'd get in a few sets that wouldn't stress me out.

Standing calf raises [size="2"](I could be Mr. Chicken legs this Halloween so i'm trying to scare these boys into business.)[/SIZE]
16 x 300;10x400;10x495
switched to the gnarly machine the big boys use
8x400;5x450;3x470 - my calves were as pumped as they have ever been went to 120% of max

Biceps (did tris yeasterday)
standing EZ curl
12 x 50;8x 70; 6x90; 5x 100;3x100 (sloppy)5x70 all 90 + were PB's
standing DB hammer curls
10x30;10x35;8x45;6x45;3x45 strait into 5x35 (45's PB)
seated preacher machine
10 x 90;10x100;8x120;6x120

Got a great pump on my bis! - definately felt like Arnold (didn't check the mirror but I think I've still got a ways to go.....;-)

35 mins cardio

Hit 203 yesterday, feeling a little fat so i'm taking my cals down to 2900 - today at 202. My belly is a little bigger (that's always where i gain fat)
Thighs are def bigger - altho that I think is some muscle.

Nipple Update
Still there - the Adex seems not to be working - my son noticed it last night - "dad your nipple is so big" so it's not just me freaking out. Should be getting the Letro today - def want to figure this out for the future. Last week of D-bol if that's what does it. We'll see.

in general i am really enjoying the cycle - love the beastly strength and the fast recovery. Other sides: My nuts seem to be shrinking a bit - or they are just shy and not hanging out as much as usual. Def getting my fair share of wood in the am. Came in handy over the weekend ;-)

Later dudes

[needsize]

I agree with a lot of stuff the other guys said, I like dbol and test as a first cycle, no need for the deca, but you have already started it then keep running it....200mg is enough to make your joints feel better. For dbol I would have started at 20mg then worked up to 30mg and stayed there, thats enough to blow up on....
You asked me about upper chest...I used to have the same problem, just start every workout with an incline movement, either incline barbell or dumbell press...some weeks my first two exercises are incline movements, then I move onto a flat press...and variety, change up the routine every week

[leanbody]

Originally Posted by needsize

I agree with a lot of stuff the other guys said, I like dbol and test as a first cycle, no need for the deca, but you have already started it then keep running it....200mg is enough to make your joints feel better. For dbol I would have started at 20mg then worked up to 30mg and stayed there, thats enough to blow up on....
You asked me about upper chest...I used to have the same problem, just start every workout with an incline movement, either incline barbell or dumbell press...some weeks my first two exercises are incline movements, then I move onto a flat press...and variety, change up the routine every week

Thanks bud - i abandoned the deca after 2 pins - got sensitive nipps and decided to limit the variables per MDS' suggestion. I'll save it for the future. So now i'm almost done w/ the dbol too.

Good suggestions on the incline press - I'm going to concentrate on that and incline flyes for every chest w/o.





WEDNESDAY W/O

Still a little sore from Monday's shoulder w/o but overall feel great. trying to mix it all up w/ suggestions from u guys - thanks. i really feel like a noob again 'cause my workout is totally different than what I'm used to. I think that's what i need to get past this plateau.


Cardio 25 mins

Incline Bench Press
10x45;8x65;5x70;5x75

Incline DB press
10x50;8x60;5x70; 1x80 - YowZa! Think i found my 1 rep max!

Incline cable flyes
10x50;8x60;6x70;3x75;4x70

Incline DB flye (decided afterwards this duplicated the cable flyes - opinions?)
12x25;10x35;6x45

Incline pushups (feet up on a bench)
10;10;4;8

SHORT workout but my chest was fried so i guess it did the trick...

later brothas!

[leanbody]

Dudes! it's Thursday (my fav day o the week (except for Friday Sat & Sun...)

Had a great leg workout today. Got myself a weight belt for squats - helped a lot! Nice black leather one - most brolic - I even look stronger! hahaha - I haven't used one since college but now i am afraid to hurt my back so i think this will help me go heavy on legs.

Squats
10x135;10x155;10x175;8x175;8x175

Supersets:
Seated leg press
16x360;14x360;12x360;12x360 burnout set 8x360,270,180,90 (only got 4 reps for 90!)
with
Ham curls
16x100;16x110;14x120;12x120;12x120

I am hoping i feel that in my quads tomorrow!

Pinned test Tues night; 50mg Dbol ED finishing tomorrow
Nipple Update still stiff, still sore - Adex didn't seem to do anything- still waiting for letro. maybe today? Lesson learned: Have your damn Gyno shit on hand before u do your cycle! Still have the Nolva but haven't tried that yet.

Weight up at 203 Mon; down to 200 on wed; at 203 today. Some of my shirts are getting tight...Hee,hee,hee - Actually have one which was a little snug in the (short)sleeves when i bought it a year ago (I was at 178 and pretty lean),- doesn't fit at all now - got to save that one for my son! nice ego boost to feel thicker! i feel the Hulkster coming on... Hahaha

Later brothas!

[leanbody]

Guys it's Friday at last!

Yesterday's leg w/o was intense and I am feeling it today - love that feeling that I am challenging my body and forcing it to compensate for new input. hopefully this leads to some quality muscle.

Today (rest day ......for most of the body)

Tried to kill my calves - those babies haven't changed in years so i am hoping to over load them so they spring into action.
Standing calf raise
15 x250;12x350;8x450;6x500
Shrugs on the Standing calf machine
15 x300;12x350;8x400;8x400
Shrugs w dbs
12x45;10x55;8x65;8x75

30 mins on the elliptical - got a new one at the gym - very delux - really bouncy - easy on the knees - TV, etc!

Weekend Nipple Update
No change - still hard & sensitive (should be a good combination...LOL taking the Adex - not too happy w/ the results so ordered Letro 12 days ago - bad customer service from CEM! No delivery yet! Anyways I'm done with the D-bol now so I'll see if it subsides. may start up the Nolva... i'm in wait & see mode.

Other sides

Got some really nice acne going on my face - in the goatee area and under my hair on my neck. Also little tiny acne on back, stomach & shoulders. Nothing I can't deal with, but funny to see it again after being clear for ...what...maybe 20 years? hahaha

Also had wild gnarly itch fest in my sleep last night (3am!) - don't know why -could be allergies or another side - took a claratin and it went away.

Weight - been up & down this week as my cal intake has gone up & down - was feeling fat on monday so cut my cals by 500 and lost 2 pounds upped 500 cals again Wed and now gained up to 205. Feel great. lots o energy -not doing too well with sleep - too busy these days so i'm getting 5.5 - 7 hours. Need to get that up to 7.5 or 8 - hard to do.
later dudes!

[leanbody]

Brothas;

Sunday mornig just had a great workout. Yesterday was chest & back did way high weights and 6-8 reps was totally exhausted!

Short workout but I went heavy (for me) used my belt - could feel it pushing in on my breakfast - that's one way to get a flat stomach!!! Hahaha


my diet was not so good yesterday -too many simple carbs, bread, fruit,cookies, etc.- had a headache all day - took a lot of asperin, ibprofen, etc. then couldn't sleep so got up at 1 am and had cookies (8) and milk.


Legs
Squats
15x 160;10x210;8x230;6x250;8x210

Leg press
15 x 180;12x270;12x360;10x450;8x530

Ham curls
14x130;12x140;10x140;8x140

Started the letro Friday - seems to lessen the sensitivity of the nipps - left one is almost normal - right one is getting there. I am missing the extra energy from the dbol, but making good progress at the gym with the test. People are starting to comment on how big my arms are, how strong I am at the gym etc. Def good for the ego! LOL funny 'cause i don't think I look any bigger but I've got an extra 20 lbs now so it must be somewhre. got to get some cardio in today. Abs seem to be fading away - got to keep the diet clean so they don't disappear.

later dudes!

[leanbody]

Wednesday October 1
PROGRESS REPORT
start 185 current 207lbs goal 225lbs

Strength - thru the roof - amazing
Recovery time - one day- also amazing

Sides
Lots of night sweats
trouble sleeping
lil bit of acne
Sensitive nipps


Today's workout
chest I decided to focus on my upper chest to get some size I striations.
My lower pecs are developing too fast so no mo std cable flyes of decline bench press for 2 months.

Incline DB press
20x35 warmup
12x55;
10x65;
10x75
5x85 (PB)
Drop set without stopping 8x75;8x65;6x55;10x45;8x35;10x25 whew- 50reps!!!

hammer Strength incline press
10x90;10x140;5x180;4x190;6x140

Incline cable flyes
12x45;10x50;12x55;8x60;5x60;8x60* weight per stack

One armed Tri push downs
6sets 10x50

Cable forearm curls & reverse curls
4sets 10x20

Incline bench Tri Kickbacks
5sets 10 x 20lbs (PB)

Pullovers
3 sets 10 x 55lbs

Bench Dips
3sets 10 x BW +55lbs

Tris & chest were PUMPED! And i still had energy left over - i could have gone for another 45mins if i didn't have to go to work!
BTW - pinned my left glute last night went well but damn that is hard to do for a right hander! and don't even think of looking in the mirror - makes it way confusing...Hahahaha

[MilkDaScow]

40lbs in a single cycle, huh?? how much longer do you have??

[getfitdoc]

has ur flat bench gone up? how much?

[leanbody]

Hey dudes - thanks for the comments! especially nice 'cause i had a shitty work out today - literally hit a wall (ok so not literally...) Dunno - did legs Gorilla squats (w/ 70,80# db's) walking lunges (w/50#) and seated leg press (@ 270 - last week 360 was easy!) just had no stamina. all weights 10-20% below max...maybe tomorrow is a good day to rest!

Originally Posted by MilkDaScow

40lbs in a single cycle, huh?? how much longer do you have??

Hahaha - i was wondering if anyone would catch that! - well hell yeah if it's humanly possible and i can keep it to 60% muscle..... I've already hit 20lbs in one month so got to shoot for something more in the next 8 weeks. i am fairly certain that when i stop i will drop 5-7 lbs of water in 1-2 weeks, then I'll cut and loose another 10lbs (mostly fat i hope) in 4-6 weeks. so that would leave me with a gain of only 3-7 lbs of muscle (assuming i go from 15% bf to 10-12% bf during that cut. - not bad but it would be about $70-100 a pound...LOL lipo might be cheaper! hahaha

What do you think would be a max weight gain for first cycle?

My max weight ever was 216 lbs - a nice fat 27% bf and size 36-38 pants. I'm still in the 33's now at 203.
I'll bet I'm at 15% bf now up from 13% @ 185(down from 206 on Monday!)

Originally Posted by GetFitDoc

has ur flat bench gone up? how much?

I'm sure it has but i always do the flat bench last as a burn out. My incline DB bench has gone up to 5 reps at 85# - my previous 5 rep max was 75# (usually last in pyramid of 5 sets) My military has also gone up from 10@ 75 to 8@ 95;5@115

Those aren't big increases but WTF it's more movement in a 4 week period than i've seen in any 3 month period the last 3 years! i am starting in on squats & DL's after being really scared off for the last 3-4 years (hurt my back good a coupla times.) Now i am doing them with a belt which takes away some of the stress and fear.

[leanbody]

First Ugly:
It's been a few days since i posted. Had a totally SHITTY workout on Thursday (legs) - dunno what was the deal but low energy to the max! Also out of breath - maybe it's wearing a lifting belt for squats & lunges (not used to it no mo) or maybe it's the test? Anyone else get short of breathe w/ test?

So Fri took it easy-just did cardio,

The Good:
Today had an awsome chest workout with the circuit dudes at the gym. 7 guys 6 stations - no resting.... Again it was hard to catch my breathe but I was moving from one set up to the next with no rest. It was tough but felt great! got a huge pump.

CHEST & BACK CIRCUIT
Flat bench barbell
20x15510x175;10x195;8x195

incline bench DB
20x45;12x55;10x55;9x60;8x60;8x50

one arm row
6sets 10 x 55

Tbar row
6 sets 8-10 x90

cable pull down
15x120;12x16;10x170;10x170;8x170

decline hammer strength machine
6 sets 5x90

Finished wit 5 sets of incline DB 65,55,45,35,25 no rest
5 sets hammer curls 8x45;6x45;8x30;8x25;8x30
calves 4 sets 8x405;1 set 75 x 5,4,3,2,1plates

So it was a great way to start the weekend.

THE BAD:
Now that i dropped the d-bol, my weight is dropping too. So i am imagining that is the water i'm loosing but I went from 207 down to 201.

So now i am really trying to eat like MDS!!! getting close to 4000 cals a day now 38% from protein, the rest fat & carbs evenly. Any suggestions out there? I definately want to gain another 10-15 lbs so when i cut i can keep at least 10 lbs of muscle gain. Bought chicken breasts, pork chops, steak & cottage cheese!

Later brothas - have a good weekend! Gotta go eat...Hahaha

[getfitdoc]

ur workouts are weird bro.

if you want to gain muscle, you're gonna have to get stronger. Use the gear to get stronger, then when ur leaning out, use the circuit type stuff.

Mix in a few Max Effort days.

Just my opinion, not bashing at all. U r working hard and getting results, but from all I know, it seems you'd get even better results if you train for pure strength while on gear.

either way, keeping working hard, in the end, that is what it's all about.

[leanbody]

Originally Posted by getfitdoc

ur workouts are weird bro.

if you want to gain muscle, you're gonna have to get stronger. Use the gear to get stronger, then when ur leaning out, use the circuit type stuff.

Mix in a few Max Effort days.

Just my opinion, not bashing at all. U r working hard and getting results, but from all I know, it seems you'd get even better results if you train for pure strength while on gear.

either way, keeping working hard, in the end, that is what it's all about.

Hey GFD - point well taken - but damn, those circuits on Saturdays are so fun with 6 or 7 guys going through! It's a hella nice buch of guys and i only see them on Sat am - kind of like a "gym club"
i think I know where you are going but can u be more specific about pure strength? - fewer reps & higher weight? concentrate on only one body part chest or back not both? Just wondering what you'd mix up. You think the strength will build size too? ATM i'm focused on size - for me and my life i don't really need great strength (at least not for another 5 or 6 years - then my son will be able to kick my ass! hahaha)

Thanks bro.

[leanbody]

Hey guys - did legs quick this am.

Smith Machine Squat (warm up)
10x45 *each side
8x70
8x80

Squats
10x95
8x135
3sets 6x185
10x135

Seated Leg Press
15x270;
12x450;
9x540;
10x540;
12x450

Ham curls
15x120;
10x140;
10x160;
7x180



All suggestions or crits welcome....