MDS's Test P/Tren A Cycle

[leanbody]

Originally Posted by MilkDaScow

100mg Test Prop, 50mg Tren Ace... injected into right delt... yet to do the injection

Chest and Bis

Flat Bench 225/5, 255/5, 275/5, 295/4, 315/2, 330/1 (little bit of a spot on the lock out)
Incline Smith Machine 225/8, 245/7, 255/5
Flat DB Press 90's/8, 95's/7, 100's/7
Cable Cross Overs 90/12, 100/12, 110/12

Hammer Curls 65's/10, 70's/8, 75's/6
One Arm Cable Preacher Curls 70/12, 80/10, 90/8

*felt pretty good... was actually a little more tired than I thought initially, but the workout was still great

lookin good bud - nice weights. Now another (stoopid?) question - I remember u said u were going for some power lifting whiile back - seems you are doing low reps and high weights now - is that mostly to get more size or size & strength? And if for size do you think that has been successful? I ask because I work with a trainer and he says that low reps and high weights isn't necessarily that effective (maybe for me 'cause I've got a few extra years on you) i'd be interested in your opinon.

Later Bud.

[MilkDaScow]

Originally Posted by leanbody

lookin good bud - nice weights. Now another (stoopid?) question - I remember u said u were going for some power lifting whiile back - seems you are doing low reps and high weights now - is that mostly to get more size or size & strength? And if for size do you think that has been successful? I ask because I work with a trainer and he says that low reps and high weights isn't necessarily that effective (maybe for me 'cause I've got a few extra years on you) i'd be interested in your opinon.

Later Bud.

Well I'm a big believer that you have to lift heavy to get big... you never see those mammoth bodybuilders or powerlifters messing around with light weight.

I have also come accustom to lifting heavy for lower reps as well, and it's really the way I like to train. But as you can see, many of my secondary lifts incorporate some higher volume sets as well as some more traditional rep schemes.

I also have been incorporating some more DC and West Side training principles and like training that was when "on". I feel it maximizes my ability to get quality results.

[MilkDaScow]

100mg Test Prop, 37.5mg Tren Ace... injected into right glute... went as normal as ever

NO TRAINING

*decided to keep the AIFM at 4 pumps per day and I'm going to drop the Adex for now
*got my hands on a ton of B6 and I'm going to use that to hopefully clear up this gyno that is occurring and officially determine if its LH/FSH simulators or Tren related

[leanbody]

Originally Posted by MilkDaScow

Well I'm a big believer that you have to lift heavy to get big... you never see those mammoth bodybuilders or powerlifters messing around with light weight.

I have also come accustom to lifting heavy for lower reps as well, and it's really the way I like to train. But as you can see, many of my secondary lifts incorporate some higher volume sets as well as some more traditional rep schemes.

I also have been incorporating some more DC and West Side training principles and like training that was when "on". I feel it maximizes my ability to get quality results.

Cool - I've taken a more conservative approach in the last few years but it hasn't really gotten me anywhere but a consistant level of "fit" Your routine has clearly hit some great results - especially for such a tall guy.

Thanks

[MilkDaScow]

Originally Posted by leanbody

Cool - I've taken a more conservative approach in the last few years but it hasn't really gotten me anywhere but a consistant level of "fit" Your routine has clearly hit some great results - especially for such a tall guy.

Thanks

Being tall kinda sucks... Having a larger frame makes it very tough to see noticeable improvements in muscular size. As for strength goes, I believe in what I call the "law of absolutes", the bigger you are the stronger you can ultimately be. If you look at the Worlds Strongest Men, I don't think any of them are less than like 6'2" (with Pudzianowski being the exception).

And not to knock you in the slightest, but you're more than old enough to be my father... a more conservative approach at you're age is a GREAT idea. Science says that the older you get, the harder time you have recovering, easier you will get hurt, etc... so being slightly more conservative isn't a bad thing. I would say that keeping to 4-6 reps as the heaviest you go using strict form would benefit you the most. Singles, doubles, and triples like us young guys do, may do more harm than good, if you have not been training like that for years.

[MilkDaScow]

100mg Test Prop, 37.5mg Tren Ace... injected into left glute... went awesome
4 pumps AIFM... applied to inner hip area
600mg B6
*last nights right glute injection didn't go as well as I had thought... my right glute is sore a shit and I'm not too happy about it... I'm sure it will be fine in a couple days

Back, Abs and Calves

Deadlifts 315/5, 365/5, 405/5, 525/3
Lat Pull Down 200/12, 215/10, 225/7, 200/12
Bent Over Rows 225/12, 275/10, 295/8
Lying T-Bar Rows 125/10, 125/10, 135/8

Decline Bench Crunches 3 x 20
Plyo Ball Crunches 3 x 12

45 Degree Calf Press 180/12(each leg), 180/12(each leg), 340/15, 340/15

*Didn't feel as good as I thought I would have, but still went for some big numbers. PB on Deadlifts today which I was really really happy about.

*Really wish that every time I injected, the injection spot didn't swell up. Kinda makes it tough to want to inject ED.

*Re-filtered all my Test/Tren blend and everything felt a whole hell of alot better when I injected it. Did a little experiment with sterile EO and sterile Oil to see if I was allergic to either... shot 1/2cc of each into my biceps, I figure if one swells then that's the compound I'm having trouble with.

[MilkDaScow]

had a little bit of an epiphany when I was looking through my brewing notes and realized that the Tren that the 4 bottles of Tren I made were actually made at 75mg/ml, not 100mg/ml like I had originally thought... went back to change all of the dosages in the log...

I guess the positive of that, is that I've been having some great results on only 37.5mg of Tren ED, not the 50mg that I had thought, and now when I bump the dosage up (45mg/day) I still have a little bit more room to go with it if I want to move it up even more

120mg Test Prop, 45mg Tren Ace... injected into right quad, went very well, slight bruise at spot of injection
600mg B6
4 pumps AIFM

Shoulders and Traps

Seated Shoulder Press 185/8, 205/6, 225/2, 185/10 (got a little over zealous when going for 225)
Rear Delt Flyes 55's/12, 65's/10, 75's/10
Front Raises 45's/12, 50's/10, 55's/10
Smith Machine Upright Rows 135/12, 155/9, 165/8
Nautilus Shoulder Press 250/8, 250/7, 250/7
superset w/
Seated DB Shrugs 100's/12, 100's/12, 100's/12

*clean up cardio

*felt pretty good, happy with the way the workout went

[leanbody]

Originally Posted by MilkDaScow

100mg Test Prop, 50mg Tren Ace... injected into left glute... went awesome
4 pumps AIFM... applied to inner hip area
600mg B6
*last nights right glute injection didn't go as well as I had thought... my right glute is sore a shit and I'm not too happy about it... I'm sure it will be fine in a couple days

Back, Abs and Calves

Deadlifts 315/5, 365/5, 405/5, 525/3
Lat Pull Down 200/12, 215/10, 225/7, 200/12
Bent Over Rows 225/12, 275/10, 295/8
Lying T-Bar Rows 125/10, 125/10, 135/8

Decline Bench Crunches 3 x 20
Plyo Ball Crunches 3 x 12

45 Degree Calf Press 180/12(each leg), 180/12(each leg), 340/15, 340/15

*Didn't feel as good as I thought I would have, but still went for some big numbers. PB on Deadlifts today which I was really really happy about.

*Really wish that every time I injected, the injection spot didn't swell up. Kinda makes it tough to want to inject ED.

*Re-filtered all my Test/Tren blend and everything felt a whole hell of alot better when I injected it. Did a little experiment with sterile EO and sterile Oil to see if I was allergic to either... shot 1/2cc of each into my biceps, I figure if one swells then that's the compound I'm having trouble with.

Great work on the deads man - you're almost strong enough to lift a volkswagon!
Hahahaha
is the tren a home brew? When u filtered it did it look any different? i've heard of "cooking" the juice in a 200degree oven - would that be an option? BTW - how many more weeks u have on this cycle?

Great log dude!

[MilkDaScow]

Originally Posted by leanbody

Great work on the deads man - you're almost strong enough to lift a volkswagon!
Hahahaha
is the tren a home brew? When u filtered it did it look any different? i've heard of "cooking" the juice in a 200degree oven - would that be an option? BTW - how many more weeks u have on this cycle?

Great log dude!

the tren is homebrew... I didn't notice anything different when I filtered it the third time, after the second filter it looked slightly clearer... it had a little bit of a cloudiness after the first filter

cooking it would have worked had it been the first time I mixed it, but because it was already in solution that wasn't necessary anymore

I have been "on" 27 days after the injection tonight... I really want to limit this cycle to 9 weeks (63 days)

[MilkDaScow]

120mg Test Prop, 45mg Tren Ace... injected into left quad, went well
250iu's HCG... injected into belly fat
600mg B6
4 pumps AIFM

Bis and Tris

Close Grip Bench 225/10, 250/8, 275/5
superset w/
Straight Bar Curls 115/10, 125/8, 135/6

One Arm Overhead Press 40's/10, 45's/8, 50's/6
superset w/
Hammer Curls 50's/10, 55's/8, 60's/7

Rope Push Downs 150/10, 150/10, 150/9
superset w/
Nautilus Preacher Curls 150/12, 170/9, 170/9

*kinda tired because I went out last night and got drunk for the first time in about 6 months and had baseball for about 2 hours prior to my working out

*going to start up HCG @ 250iu's ED for 4 days and then 300iu's e3d
*going to start running Clen a little bit also... probably start at 40mcg/day and work up to around 100mcg/day

[getfitdoc]

Originally Posted by MilkDaScow

*going to start running Clen a little bit also... probably start at 40mcg/day and work up to around 100mcg/day

i was thinking about doing that as well...

u hit any pr's yet?

[MilkDaScow]

Originally Posted by getfitdoc

i was thinking about doing that as well...

u hit any pr's yet?

yeah man...

Seated Military Press... never really did it much, almost always went with DB's

Dead Lifts... got 525 for 3, best I ever did before that was 500 for 4

Squats (kinda)... got 405 for 1, but have never gone that deep before

everything else is just about as the max that I have ever done before as well... these next 5 weeks should be interesting

[MilkDaScow]

120mg Test Prop, 45mg Tren Ace... injected into left pec... got a weird tingling feeling into my shoulder and bicep about 10 minutes after the injection
250iu's HCG... injected into belly fat
600mg B6
4 pumps AIFM... rubbed into quad/hip area

NO TRAINING

clean up cardio

*have been noticing some stiffness in my elbows and knees... wondering if it was caused by the little bit of A-Dex I ran or just some overall dryness from the Tren

[MilkDaScow]

120mg Test Prop, 45mg Tren Ace... injected into right pec, standard
250iu's HCG... injected into belly fat
600mg B6
4 pumps AIFM... rubbed into forearms
40mcg Clen

Legs

Squats 185/5, 225/5, 275/5, 275/20
One Leg Leg Press 3plates/10, 3plates/10, 3plates/10
Leg Curls 200/10, 200/12, 200/11
Leg Extensions 260/12, 275/12, 300/12

45 Degree Calf Press 270/20, 270/20, 270/17
Standing Calf Raises on Smith Machine 225/15, 225/15, 225/15

*felt pretty good to do 275 for 20... kinda killed my motivation for the rest of the workout though because of how much effort was put into it... energy was minimal after the set

*woke up this morning with a little bit of a sore throat... hopefully it doesn't amount to anything

*got some serious cramping in my quads and calves from the Clen... need to load up on Potassium and Taurine

[leanbody]

Originally Posted by MilkDaScow

One Leg Leg Press 3plates/10, 3plates/10, 3plates/10
*got some serious cramping in my quads and calves from the Clen... need to load up on Potassium and Taurine

Hell man - U sure it's the Clen? - I think you might be turning into the Hulk! - It usually starts with the thighs - they bust out of your PJ's while yo're sleeping and ..... B sure to warn your GF ;-)