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    MDS's Test P/Tren A Cycle
    3rd Cycle (9 weeks long)

    Week 1: 150mg Test Prop ED
    Weeks 2-9: 100mg Test Prop ED
    Weeks 2-9: 33mg Tren Ace ED (will access how my body handles the Tren and possibly bump the dosage up to 50mg ED)
    *may run some injectable Winstrol (winny) @ 50mg ED from Weeks 4-9 if I don***8217;t like how dry I am***8230; I***8217;m sitting on 2 20ml Bottles of Human Grade so I figure I might want to use it

    Current Stats

    Mass: 220lbs w/ approximately 12***37; bf
    Strength: 315lbs Bench, 365lbsx2(easy) Squat, ~450lbs Deadlift

    Goals

    Mass Gain: Gain 9 pounds of Solid Muscle (approximately 1lb/week)
    Strength Gains: 10-15% of 1RM in the 3 major lifts (365lb Bench, 585lb Deadlift, 475lb Squat)
    Fat Loss: 2% (approximately .5lb/week)

    I think that with tightening my diet a little more and increasing the 0 Cardio I do currently to 3-4 30 minute sessions a week, this shouldn***8217;t be unattainable.

    Diet

    4,200-4,500 calories ED (currently maintaining well on about 3,800-4,000 ED)

    Planning on upping the protein and dropping the carbs slightly. Should be about 450 grams of protein, 350 grams of carbs, 100 grams of fat.

    Training

    Going back to a little bit more of the Traditional Body Building (1 body part/wk split) but I***8217;m going to keep the main lifts heavy (6 reps or less).

    Day 1: Quads, Hamstrings, Calves
    Day 2: Chest, Biceps, Forearms, Abs
    Day 3: OFF
    Day 4: Back, Calves, Abs
    Day 5: Shoulders, Traps
    Day 6: Biceps, Triceps, Forearms, Abs
    Day 7: OFF

    *the Bicep day w/Chest will be a lighter day (probably only 6 sets)
    * any recommendations are more than welcome***8230; the increased volume and training frequency is because I***8217;m going to be on a healthy amount of gear
    * Cardio will be 3-4x a week***8230; I haven***8217;t figured out exactly when because my class schedule isn***8217;t set in stone yet
    Last edited by TheMilkMan; 08-26-2008 at 09:49 AM.

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    August 24th
    150mg Test Prop... injected into right glute, injection went perfect and I'm very pleased to be back on

    Training will start up tomorrow with Day 1

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    good luck bro. how long had you been off since your last cycle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gogetter View Post
    good luck bro. how long had you been off since your last cycle?
    PCT + time off was 3 months and 3 weeks

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    Glad you're finally getting this thing rolling. You'll have a lot of fun with this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManOfMuscle View Post
    Glad you're finally getting this thing rolling. You'll have a lot of fun with this one.
    I hope so man. It's going to be an awesome experience because I have the time, money, and resources (ie. you guys, the internet, pretty good gyms) to make this thing happen for me.

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    Wow, that came up fast!!..lol Bet you've been waiting to pull the trigger on this one? Everything looks solid, can't wait to follow this one. Good luck bro!

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    August 25th
    150mg Test Prop... injected into left glute, went well but its a little sore now (about 6 hours later)

    Quads, Hamstrings, Calves

    Squats 245/5, 295/5, 335/5, 355/4, 385/1
    DB Lunges 55's/12, 65's/10, 75's/6
    Leg Extensions 100/12, 100/12, 100/10
    Calf Raises 2 plates/12, 2 plates/12, 2 plates/10

    Calf Raises 80/8, 120/10 (full stack is 120)
    superset w/
    Leg Curls 100/10, 100/10

    *Calf Raises were done on a Hack Squat Machine facing the opposite way
    *felt pretty good today, I had a nice mental edge

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    Senior Member TheMilkMan's Avatar
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    August 26th
    150mg Test Prop... injected into right quad, hurt when I broke the skin, but it was painless after the fact

    Chest, Bis, Abs

    Flat Bench 225/5, 275/5, 285/3, 285/3
    Incline DB's 90's/6, 90's/7, 90's/6
    Incline DB Flyes 55's/9, 60's/8, 60's/8
    One Arm Cable Cross Overs 25/12, 35/12, 45/10 (plate loading cable stack)

    Hammer Curls 55's/10, 60's/9, 65's/6
    Straight Bar Curls 95/12, 95/12, 95/11

    Roman Chair Leg Raises 3 x 15
    Decline Bench Crunches 3 x 15

    *felt good today, felt a little bit more of a pump than usual

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    Senior Member TheMilkMan's Avatar
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    August 27th
    150mg Test Prop... injected into left quad, another easy injection

    NO TRAINING

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    August 28th
    150mg Test Prop... injected into left pec, went well

    Back, Calves, Forearms

    Deadlifts 225/5, 295/5, 365/5, 435/5, 485/4
    Lat Pull Down 200/10, 200/10, 200/10 (full stack) *wanted to add more weight but the guy who runs the gym was there and wouldn't have liked that
    T-Bar Rows 4 plates/10, 5 plates/8, 5 + 25/6
    Pull Ups bw/6, bw/5

    Calf Press 4 plates/failure x 2, 5 plates/failure x 2
    superset w/
    Behind the Back Wrist Curls 135/failure x 3

    *awesome, awesome workout... very very happy to be back on Test

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    August 29th
    150mg Test Prop... injected into right pec... went well

    Shoulders and Abs

    DB Presses 85/8, 85/8, 90/5, 90/5
    Side Raises 45's/12, 50's/10, 50's/9
    Upright Rows 85/12, 105/9, 105/9
    Cable Front Raises 20/15, 30/12, 40/10 (heavy heavy stack)

    Roman Chair Leg Raises 3 x 15
    Decline Bench Crunches 3 x 15

    *cleaned a 5,500 square foot bar for 2 and a half hours before the workout so I was a little shot from that, but the workout still went well

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    Senior Member TheMilkMan's Avatar
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    August 30th
    100mg Test Prop, 30mg Tren Ace... injected into my left delt, hopefully I don't end up with an infection or major pain soon (its the first time injecting my homebrew)

    *I think that my BA concentration is too high in the Tren. I injected it w/ the Prop and had some major discomfort in the shoulder from about 10 minutes after the injection until about 3 hours after. I figure it must be the BA with those symptoms and I know that I made it with AT LEAST 5***37; BA, and I wouldn't doubt that it was more like 6-8%. (I don't remember my exact recipe) Some problems that I also thought my add to the issue with the discomfort was that when I broke the skin I had a major muscle twitch and it felt like it pulled the pin a little bit. I also did Shoulders yesterday, so hopefully tomorrow's injection will go a little bit better.

    Tris and Bis

    CGBP 225/8, 245/8, 255/6
    Skull Crushers 105/8, 105/8, 105/8
    Rope Push Downs 150(full stack)/12, 150/10, 150/10
    Hammer Curls 55's/12, 60's/9, 65's/8
    Straight Bar Curls 95/12, 115/9, 125/8
    One Arm Preacher Curls 40/10, 45/8, 45/8


    *felt really good minus the shoulder bothering me
    Last edited by TheMilkMan; 09-19-2008 at 05:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MilkDaScow View Post
    150mg Test Prop... injected into left pec, went well

    Back, Calves, Forearms

    Deadlifts 225/5, 295/5, 365/5, 435/5, 485/4
    Lat Pull Down 200/10, 200/10, 200/10 (full stack) *wanted to add more weight but the guy who runs the gym was there and wouldn't have liked that
    T-Bar Rows 4 plates/10, 5 plates/8, 5 + 25/6
    Pull Ups bw/6, bw/5

    Calf Press 4 plates/failure x 2, 5 plates/failure x 2
    superset w/
    Behind the Back Wrist Curls 135/failure x 3

    *awesome, awesome workout... very very happy to be back on Test
    You sayin you did 250lbs on the Tbar Rows??? - jesesus man you're a fuckin beast! How much width have u added in your shoulders in the last 6 mos? Go, dude, go!

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    Quote Originally Posted by leanbody View Post
    You sayin you did 250lbs on the Tbar Rows??? - jesesus man you're a fuckin beast! How much width have u added in your shoulders in the last 6 mos? Go, dude, go!
    I've always had really strong shoulders and a really really strong back.... my shoulders have definitely grown, how much, I really don't know

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    August 31st
    100mg Test Prop, 30mg Tren Ace... injected into right delt, went a lot better than the first injection yesterday, thinking it was more to do with injection technique, etc than the gear itself...

    NO TRAINING

    *went to a local state park with some sweet waterfalls, etc
    *cleaned the bar that I work at... going to call that cardio for now on... it takes no less than 2 hours, its hot and I soak through my shorts and shirt every time from a combination of sweeping, squeegeeing, and mopping
    Last edited by TheMilkMan; 09-19-2008 at 05:11 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MilkDaScow View Post
    I've always had really strong shoulders and a really really strong back.... my shoulders have definitely grown, how much, I really don't know
    props man - strong is an understatement- maybe all that baseball! - and as i recall you are 6'+ so w/ long arms that is even more impressive. I'm lucky if I can get 2 plates up for 8 reps!

    Quote Originally Posted by MilkDaScow View Post
    100mg Test Prop, 40mg Tren Ace... injected into right delt, went a lot better than the first injection yesterday, thinking it was more to do with injection technique, etc than the gear itself...

    NO TRAINING

    *went to a local state park with some sweet waterfalls, etc
    *cleaned the bar that I work at... going to call that cardio for now on... it takes no less than 2 hours, its hot and I soak through my shorts and shirt every time from a combination of sweeping, squeegeeing, and mopping
    Got a question about form or technique on the delts - you just reach across w you opposite arm and do it all w/ one hand? seems tough to get enough distance to go in from the side...

    BTW - like the cardio - LMFAO! Hope u enjoy the holiday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leanbody View Post
    props man - strong is an understatement- maybe all that baseball! - and as i recall you are 6'+ so w/ long arms that is even more impressive. I'm lucky if I can get 2 plates up for 8 reps!
    Yeah, I'm 6'3" with a 77" wingspan, so my arms are most definitely pretty long. I have just always had a very strong back and strong shoulders. The first time I even DeadLifted, I was 16 yo, ~165lbs and did 315.


    Quote Originally Posted by leanbody View Post
    Got a question about form or technique on the delts - you just reach across w you opposite arm and do it all w/ one hand? seems tough to get enough distance to go in from the side...

    BTW - like the cardio - LMFAO! Hope u enjoy the holiday.
    Injected delts isn't easy, normally I get a friend to do it for me. I like to hit the rear delt, so it makes it that much harder for me to do by myself.

    The cardio is definitely easier to do when your getting paid $20 an hour to do it. To bad it's just not EOD or something like that, instead its always Wednesday, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MilkDaScow View Post
    Yeah, I'm 6'3" with a 77" wingspan, so my arms are most definitely pretty long. I have just always had a very strong back and strong shoulders. The first time I even DeadLifted, I was 16 yo, ~165lbs and did 315.

    Easy for u to say - I was 5'0" -took years on the stretching rack in the basement to get me up to 6'2"! (J/K)


    Injected delts isn't easy, normally I get a friend to do it for me. I like to hit the rear delt, so it makes it that much harder for me to do by myself.

    Thanks for clarifying that - I was trying to picture how that would work to see if delts are an option for me. i want to rotate sites and think I can manage the glute's but def not the delt.
    The cardio is definitely easier to do when your getting paid $20 an hour to do it. To bad it's just not EOD or something like that, instead its always Wednesday, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday.
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    September 1st
    weighed 226lbs this morning... up 6 pounds in a week

    100mg Test Prop, 30mg Tren Ace... injected into right glute, went well but I shot it a little lower than I would have liked

    Legs

    Squats 225/5, 275/5, 315/5, 365/5
    Leg Presses 5 plates/12, 6 plates/10, 7 + 25/8
    Seated Leg Curls (one leg at a time) 90/12, 90/12, 100/10
    Leg Extensions (one leg at a time) 110/15, 125/12, 125/12

    Nautilus Leg Press Toe Raises 400/failure, 400/failure, 400/failure
    45 Degree Calf Raise 270/failure, 270/failure, 270/failure

    *good workout, nothing spectacular... looking forward to the Test and Tren strength gains to really kick in and go to work
    Last edited by TheMilkMan; 09-19-2008 at 05:11 PM.

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    September 2nd
    100mg Test Prop, 30mg Tren Ace... injected into left glute, went well

    Chest and Biceps

    Flat Bench 225/5, 275/5, 285/4, 295/2, 225/10
    Incline Press 185/10, 205/8, 225/5, 245/2
    Flat DB Flyes 55's/10, 60's/10, 65's/9
    Cable Cross Overs 90/12, 100/10, 110/10

    Straight Bar Curls 95/8, 115/8, 125/6
    Incline Bench Curls 35's/12, 40's/10, 45's/8

    *Tri's were still a little bit sore
    *not very happy with the Flat Bench work today... didn't sleep all that well yesterday, think the Tren had something to do with that... hopefully tonight will be better and I'll make good use of the day off.
    Last edited by TheMilkMan; 09-19-2008 at 05:11 PM.

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    Nice work on the 6 lbs - u think that's mostly water? U still at 4-4,500 cals a day? How does that breakdown into fat protein & carbs ? about 1/3 each?

    Hope the Tren kicks in and takes you up inn weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leanbody View Post
    Nice work on the 6 lbs - u think that's mostly water? U still at 4-4,500 cals a day? How does that breakdown into fat protein & carbs ? about 1/3 each?

    Hope the Tren kicks in and takes you up inn weight.
    The 6 pounds seems to be water for the most part. I have always retained a decent amount of water on Test, so I think its that.

    The calories are close to 4,500 a day and the break down is about 30% fat, 30% carbs, 40% protein. I have the propensity to gain bf rather easily when I'm bulking, so I try to keep the carbs under control for the most part.

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