MOM's Dermacrine Log

[Perfection Awaits]

mmm epistane. I cannot wait to start mine again. what doses are you going to run it at?

[ManOfMuscle]

Originally Posted by candy_pills_$100_bills

1. I figured you were older then that
2. why would someone use this over regular AAS?
3. is this different test patch/test gel?
4. where was the orginated? please dont say macro or some elite fitness cunt

It's not meant to be used over regular AAS, it's not a substitute. It's a good product for giving you a boost if you're not on anything, and they market it as an addition to any cycle. Personally I think if I were on test I would never notice this stuff. It could be compared to the patch/gel although it's more of a lotion. As far as testosterone delivery, I'm not sure how the methodology differs between dermacrine and something like androgel. I know dermacrine uses dhea and other precursors to raise test. The stuff comes from the company Primordial Performance, one of our sponsors. They have various threads in the anabolic forum.

[ManOfMuscle]

Originally Posted by Perfection Awaits

mmm epistane. I cannot wait to start mine again. what doses are you going to run it at?

40.

[ManOfMuscle]

Lower body strength

squats bw x5 135 x5 225 x5 315 x2 365 x2 405 x2 435 x2 (no belt) - felt good on the quads, left knee was hurting a bit.
donkey calf press machine 3 plates per side x12 x15 x20
superset w/ twistig ball crunches w/ 16lb medicine ball at extension x15 x20 x25
dips bw x10 x15 x27
overhand grip wide pull ups bw x8 x12 x20
cable pressdowns x12 x15 x20
superset w/ reverse cable curls x8 regular grip x8 for 2 sets, reverse grip curls x10 regular grip x10 final set

Had a 3 day layoff because the gym closed early yesterday, plus I'm not lifting again till thursday so I wanted to do more of a full body routine. Everything felt good, pumps were better than they have been in months.

Day 61 Dermacrine Day 4 Epistane

[getfitdoc]

Originally Posted by ManOfMuscle

40 a day. I worry about sweating too much of it out if I apply it right before a workout.

I put it on about 20-25 minutes before my workout, it absorbs pretty good

for me, the derm gives me energy, so i like it rt b4 the lifting.

can't wait to see how the combo of derm and epistane works for u

r u going to use primordial's PCT?

[ManOfMuscle]

Originally Posted by getfitdoc

r u going to use primordial's PCT?

No, but I'm getting some of the sustain alpha for free.

[ManOfMuscle]

Upper body strength

bench 155 x10 225 x5 275 x5 295 x5 315 x2 x5
bb rows 135 x10 225 x5 275 x6 315 x6 405 x6 - PR - don't recall ever rowing 4 plates before.
HS military 2 plates per side x6 3 plates x6 3 plates+25 x7
bb shrugs 315 x6 405 x6 x12
superset w/ zottman curls 40's x6 (per arm) 45's x6 50's x8
and rope pressdowns 60 x10 85 x12 x20 (used two different machines)

Day 64 Dermacrine Day 7 Epistane

Muscle bellies are filling up and I feel thicker.

[ManOfMuscle]

The other night while I was baked I had the brilliant idea to take 5 caps on workout days and 3 on off days.

[getfitdoc]

Originally Posted by ManOfMuscle

The other night while I was baked I had the brilliant idea to take 5 caps on workout days and 3 on off days.

i've been taking 5.

im actually considering 6 when i lift and 5 when i don't to finish up.

i want to see what this stuff can do.

have you noticed improvement to your endurance?

im not getting tired playing basketball at all, and the hills i run seem a lot easier, even though i haven't been doing that much cardio.

[ManOfMuscle]

Lower body hypertrophy

hack squats 3 plates per side x10 x10 3 plates+25 x10 x10 4 plates x8 x8 4 plates+25 x8
decline twisting crunches bw x15 w/25lb plate at extension x15 x20
superset w/ cybex seated calf press 250 x12 290 x15 310 x15
overhead cambered bar extension 110 x8
superset w/ cambered bar curls 110 x8
* pause to puke in a trash can
overhead cambered bar 110 x12 x20
superset w/ cambered bar curls 110 x12 x15

Extremely hungover, had no energy, felt like shit. Otherwise everything was good.

Day 67 Dermacrine Day 10 Epistane

[Aztech]

i'm gonna try epi at 60mg/d then maybe try more

[ManOfMuscle]

Upper body hypertrophy

incline smith bench 135 x8 185 x8 225 x8 275 x8 315 x10
overhand wide grip pull ups bw+25 x8 bw+45 x8 bw+70 x9 - PR
cable chest flyes switching from high to medium to low angle 80 x10 x10 x10
HS high row 3 plates per side x8 4 plates x8 5 plates x12
db shrugs 75's x15 45's x10 (no break) 75's x20 45's x10 75's x25 45's x10
superset w/ cable upright row 50 x8 60 x8 70 x8

Felt strong as an ox today. Muscle bellies are full, seeing more separation, vascularity is up, all that jazz.

Day 69 Dermacrine Day 12 Epistane.

[ManOfMuscle]

Originally Posted by getfitdoc

have you noticed improvement to your endurance?

Yes I have. I wanted to give it a couple more workouts to answer your question. Normally my workouts go about an hour or a little under. The last few I've been going 70 minutes just because I still feel like lifting at the end. I'll be doing some MMA tomorrow so I'm interested to see if I notice any changes there.

[getfitdoc]

Originally Posted by ManOfMuscle

Yes I have. I wanted to give it a couple more workouts to answer your question. Normally my workouts go about an hour or a little under. The last few I've been going 70 minutes just because I still feel like lifting at the end. I'll be doing some MMA tomorrow so I'm interested to see if I notice any changes there.

ya, about 10-12 days in u feel it starting to work with endurance.

it has for sure helped me in hoop. i only had minor back pumps, but i think that was just lack of water, i've only had it 1 time the whole cycle. Ever since then my basketball endurance has been high.