no actually im just glad you are honest and one of the few ppl that have been helpful thanks and yeah i will get back to you ..

hey i noticed your responses on inpack's page and wanted to ask for a little advice ... i am 6.1 140 pounds .. i started working out a little over 6 months ago ...and rly havent had much gain - i am extremely tired of being skinny and have been taking protein shakes for three months and again not much gain ... all i want to do is add 30 - 40 pounds muscle so im not so lanky looking ... any tips would be great .. i want to start taking something that will speed the process up anabolics or whatever i dont rly care anymore as long as i see results

whats up man thanks for the response on my thread. I live in lauderdale thats why I messged you because I see you are my neighboring city miami lol. How long you been cycling?

Hi, thanks for asking. I think I got set up with some bogus shit. I didnt gain any weight, I did notice some strength gains, but maybe that was just psychological. I did notice some sides like night sweats and acne on my back, but not to bad. Rookie shit. I ended my cycle 7 days ago. I bought some hcg and I thought I would be using it now, but I didnt notice much testicular atrophy. Thanks again for the tren warning, maybe this bad gear was a blessing in disguise.

Thanks for your reply. Believe me, I have been researching every day on concrete reasons for beginners to avoid Tren E. From what I am gathering it seems the severe to moderate decrease in hpta function is one of the more pronounced reasons. I could see an abuser who already has testicles which have atrophied to much to be fully functional again have no problem leaning to Tren. Please let me know if I am off the mark with that. I am now 2 weeks and 5 days into this cycle. I have some acne on my back and night sweats, but that is about it for side effects. Well some testicular atrophy too. I agree with you in your stance for 1st time users to avoid tren. Beginning this cycle I thought this will probably be the only cycle I ever do so I better make it a good/effective cycle. Would you agree this should be effective in putting on some quality muscle?
I look forward to your response, and keeping you updated on how it is going.
Later: Mckrevis

I m not sure how to take this one. I dont understand your stance exactly. I am 2 wks and a day into my cycle. I have never used and I am new to this anabolics game. I of course care about my overall health. I researched my facts pretty well. I continue to do so. I was excited to have my 1st gear and went ahead and started my cycle. I now am finding out more about Tren E's strength. I want to know why you are so strongly against the idea of Tren 1st cycle.

You can use 25mg per day, but use it all the way through. Right from the start.

I'm Just about to get some myself, luckily my doc prescribes them to me, so it's easy for me. I'm starting a new cycle next week and i'm pumped ! i can't wait to see how i turn out. I'm going all out and wanna do good at the comp i've got comming up later on in the year. After a lot of thinking and planning i've finally decided and i'm ready to go.

Proviron is great when using a lot of test. It binds strongly to the SHGB receptor, thus making the test you use be free to work its growing magic. It does help with hardness due to the lack of conversion to estro, but that will only really show if you're low bf% already. It's also great because you don't have a huge amount of estro that you need to control when you come off, so PCT is a breeze. I use proviron all the time, i love the stuff. I use 50mg a day when using a heavy test cycle, and i works great. It does give some people constant erections at 50mg or over, so be prepared. (Not a bad thing most times IMO)

Hope that helped bro.

I use 100iu slin pins for the hcg (i think they're 27 gauge). You can stick it anywhere in your body- i do IM injections personally (no reason in particular). I don't like to mix anything with the hcg, do it seperate. I use 19's to draw out the oil and 23's to do the shot with oils. I think that answers your questions bro. If you have anymore, let me know.
Exciting stuff bro, time to grow!

Nah just use the prop instead. so stop the test e and replace with the test prop for the last 4 weeks