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Old 03-26-2008, 02:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Stats: just over 6'3", 249lbs, ~15%bf

running 700mg Sust EW and soon to add on Winny @ 50mg ED

the link to my log: http://steroidology.com/forum/showth...81#post1881281

I'm currently cutting down for summer and this is what the meal plan looks like...

Meal 1: 9 egg whites, 3 yolks, 1/2 cup dry grits, 1oz American Cheese

Meal 2: 50 gram Whey Protein Shake

Meal 3: 8oz grilled chicken, 1oz almonds or veggies with 1 tbsp of Olive Oil

Meal 4: 2 cans Tuna, 2oz dry whole wheat pasta, 1 tbsp Olive Oil

Meal 5 (PWO): 50 gram Whey Protein Shake, 27 grams of Maltodextrin, 25 grams of Dextrose

Meal 6: 10oz grilled chicken, 40 grams of complex carbs (whole wheat pasta, whole wheat bread, brown rice)

Meal 7: 6oz grilled chicken, 1oz almonds or veggies with 1 tbsp of Olive Oil

Meal 8: 50 gram Whey Protein Shake

*the 1 tbsp of Olive Oil is contained in a mixture of Olive Oil and Balsamic Vinegar and a spice packet
*the protein I am currently using has 15 grams of carbs for every 50 grams of protein... a little on the high end, but it tastes great, has no fat/cholesterol and was $135 for 25lbs

~3,900 calories, 110 grams of fat, 250 grams of carbs, 475 grams of protein

I know its not perfect, but tell me what you guys think...
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I like it alot.. What are your approx meal times?? Other then that.. Don't be affraid of thowing in some extra lean red meat (sirloin, 94/6 ground beef, eye of round, etc.) or fish like Orange roughy, Salmon, Talapia, etc.. I would also opt for the veggie option more often then not. Need those veggies when cutting. ..and if you need any suggestions on how to spice things with the regular chick/veg plate, pm me.. it can be quite boring if you don't switch up the way you cook things..
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looks like a clean bulking cycle slightly reduced.

I would:

cut back on the carbs (maybe even try a keto diet)
add about 20g of fish oil to the diet
add in some green tea or green tea extract

Any money for adding in some fat burning supps?
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Old 03-26-2008, 05:52 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I like it alot.. What are your approx meal times?? Other then that.. Don't be affraid of thowing in some extra lean red meat (sirloin, 94/6 ground beef, eye of round, etc.) or fish like Orange roughy, Salmon, Talapia, etc.. I would also opt for the veggie option more often then not. Need those veggies when cutting. ..and if you need any suggestions on how to spice things with the regular chick/veg plate, pm me.. it can be quite boring if you don't switch up the way you cook things..
i'll definately be needing those recipes soon, the only problem is I cook like 10 lbs of chicken at a time, so I have to be able to add spices afterwards

as far as the lean beef goes, I have a nice flank steak marinating as we speak, and i normally add lean beef 2x a week

the only reason for the almond instead of the veggies would be if I'm eating meals on the run, in between classes, or at the library


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looks like a clean bulking cycle slightly reduced.

I would:

cut back on the carbs (maybe even try a keto diet)
add about 20g of fish oil to the diet
add in some green tea or green tea extract

Any money for adding in some fat burning supps?
I have a boat load of Clen that I'm going to be using 2 on 2 off for the remainder of my cycle

I didn't want to go too crazy with cutting back the carbs quite yet, as I was maintaining well with 400 grams a day and I just started doing 40 minutes of cardio everyday, so after about 10 days i'll see how I feel and see the differences in my body, and I'm sure I'll start to drop the carbs even more (probably about 50 grams a week until I hit only 100 grams/day)
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Old 03-27-2008, 12:34 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I really didn't like keto before I tried it propery but it really worked extremely well for me. I think the key was making sure you get plenty of protein. Never longer than 3 hours without feeding. I eat a lot of red meat on this though to a) feel full and b) keep calories high to maintain mass. On keto nearly all you caloric expenditure is fat and if you do it right you won't lose muscle. I'd definitely say that it's for a serious cutter though.

IMO you could drop from 15 to 10% just by significantly cleaning up your diet and throwing in some cardio. Looks like that is what you've done...it's late now and I'm to lazy to do calculations but 4k calories seems like a lot even for a big guy like yourself.
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keto, zero carbs for three days then a light carb up day. Take taurine and creatine to keep muscles working.
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im surprised to see aczech and tas advocating a keto. i thought most were shit, esp for those who lifted heavy.

the meal plan looks a bit on the hefty side in terms of carbs as pointed out earlier. with the clen, try using the diet guidelines posted in the FAQ. i think its something like .25 grams of fat per pound of bodyweight, 1-2grams of carbs, and 1.5 grams of protein. it may come out to roughly the same as your doing, but that worked very well for me when i was doing clen.
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without having any real experience with keto i would say make sure you really know what your doing cause I think that diet has the potential to really fuck up your training and life in general in terms of enegylevels and such..
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I really didn't like keto before I tried it propery but it really worked extremely well for me. I think the key was making sure you get plenty of protein. Never longer than 3 hours without feeding. I eat a lot of red meat on this though to a) feel full and b) keep calories high to maintain mass. On keto nearly all you caloric expenditure is fat and if you do it right you won't lose muscle. I'd definitely say that it's for a serious cutter though.

IMO you could drop from 15 to 10% just by significantly cleaning up your diet and throwing in some cardio. Looks like that is what you've done...it's late now and I'm to lazy to do calculations but 4k calories seems like a lot even for a big guy like yourself.
I'm looking for exactly that, dropping from like 15% to 10% bf... as far as the calories are concerned, I was holding steady at 250 with 4,500 calories and NO cardio at all. So at this point, I think the drop in carbs and 700 calorie drop along with 40 minutes of cardio everyday should pull some bf off without much of an issue.

But I am going to keep dropping the carbs until I get to ~100 grams a day and cruise there for a bit.
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As an athlete I'm not a big fan of keto diets. They do work well for stripping fat though.. just be prepared to lose energy, strength, and drive.. At least for me that's what happened. I remember running on pure adrenaline and ECA..lol.
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