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Old 03-21-2009, 01:25 PM   #26 (permalink)
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You are correct sir. I believe Dorian lifted Heavy too and he could have flown into the night with those Lats he had. Go Big or Go Home right, lol.
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Old 03-21-2009, 01:28 PM   #27 (permalink)
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You guys are so stuck on the black guys hve more genetics than whites. LOL! You are very very wrong. I live down south and I know tons and tons of white guys who are big, strong and dont lift!

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Believe it or not, during the time of slavery, the slave owners would intentionally breed the largest most muscular slaves with each other in order to produce genetically superior offspring who would in turn become bigger stronger slaves.
This is one of the reasons black people in the US are usually larger than black people anywhere else in the world, and have the genetic predisposition to be larger even if they dont work out.
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Old 03-21-2009, 01:57 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Believe it or not, during the time of slavery, the slave owners would intentionally breed the largest most muscular slaves with each other in order to produce genetically superior offspring who would in turn become bigger stronger slaves.
This is one of the reasons black people in the US are usually larger than black people anywhere else in the world, and have the genetic predisposition to be larger even if they dont work out.
Another person that is correct.
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Old 03-23-2009, 12:36 PM   #29 (permalink)
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the black guys that work with me as strippers dont even lift weights or excercise. these guys MIGHT have a labor day job and eat fast food when ever they can. they are still leaner than ALL the white and mexican guys though since we lift weights we are more muscular than most of them.
one of them has bigger shoulders and pecs than me and when i told him its bullshit that he can come in eating mcdonalds while i low carb for 3 days prior to weekend. he told me "you cant compare yourself to me" and hes right lol.

what i think is interesting is the guy that commented about the black guys in africa not having calves. ive noticed this here, that most black guys have tiny calves. most white guys (like me) have monster calves. i also notice that guys with skinny calves are always very fast sprinters.

there are definatly some "big man" genes in northern european ancestry though. it seems like the biggest and strongest men are almost ALWAYS northern european or descendants. russian too but they are probobly related.

ive always wondered though, what powerlifting and olympic weightlifting would look like if black americans didnt have football to play. ill bet they would probobly dominate those as well.

i think one of the reasons black guys excell as atheletes is that it has always been a "way out of the ghetto". until we elected obama, black guys only had athelets, rappers, and drug dealers to look up to.

please dont construe these comments as rascist, they are my observations and experiances.
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I believe most of it due to genetics. Quote from Ronnie Coleman, " I stopped working out my biceps because they were to big and my body need to catch up, so I would only work them out once a month." That's genetics for you.
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Old 07-01-2009, 07:02 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Old 07-01-2009, 08:24 PM   #32 (permalink)
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You sure about that bro. Arnold huh. 6 2 253 at his peak. Big Ron 6 2 296 same BF%

YouTube - ronnie against arnold

Take a nice long look at legs. 3 of Arnies legs might equal one of Big-Rons. Besides Gunter Schlierkamp Big-Ron is untouchable. Arnie was a squirt compared to him. He looked so big because of his little waist. Personally Gunter my favorite was the most overlooked BBer in history. 6 2 305lbs 7% BF.
arnold was never 253lbs, not in his wildest dreams, maybe in the off season but never on stage
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You guys are so stuck on the black guys hve more genetics than whites. LOL! You are very very wrong. I live down south and I know tons and tons of white guys who are big, strong and dont lift!
You live down south and it sounds like your in denial about blacks having better genetics. Its true bro...dont let it ruin your day.
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Old 07-20-2009, 09:13 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Believe it or not, during the time of slavery, the slave owners would intentionally breed the largest most muscular slaves with each other in order to produce genetically superior offspring who would in turn become bigger stronger slaves.
This is one of the reasons black people in the US are usually larger than black people anywhere else in the world, and have the genetic predisposition to be larger even if they dont work out.
You are absolutely correct.

I bet you the most athletic person in the world is black.

The smartest person in the world is Asian.

The race with a good blend of athletics and intelligence is white.

Athletic ability is just as genetic as inteligence. Look at the students enrolled at Harvard and Ivy league schools. Almost %35 of the ivy league are Asian!

Me...I'm white...and I got the shit end of athletic genetics and intelligence. Im fucked either way...so I just work for the government!
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Old 07-21-2009, 12:37 AM   #35 (permalink)
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Ronnie juiced his A$$ off like every other Pro BB on the stage! Your would drop if U saw the cycles he was on I am sure! Plus the money spent the doctors care...mindboggeling, I am sure! I'm going to down a protein shake and dream, LMAO!
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Old 07-29-2009, 04:03 PM   #36 (permalink)
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You sure about that bro. Arnold huh. 6 2 253 at his peak. Big Ron 6 2 296 same BF%

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Take a nice long look at legs. 3 of Arnies legs might equal one of Big-Rons. Besides Gunter Schlierkamp Big-Ron is untouchable. Arnie was a squirt compared to him. He looked so big because of his little waist. Personally Gunter my favorite was the most overlooked BBer in history. 6 2 305lbs 7% BF.
Arnold was great a pioneer in BB not too many chems to play with and poor equipment I still say today he couldn't be touched. Gunter is a monster and derserved more recognition.
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arnold was never 253lbs, not in his wildest dreams, maybe in the off season but never on stage
6 2 240 lbs his weight only moved about 5lbs for contest kept himself lean and tight.
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Old 08-03-2009, 10:20 PM   #39 (permalink)
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you guys are so stupid. just look at darwin's theory of evolution. take a look at natural selection. when slavery existed, only the strongest survived... the weak blacks were killed or they were sent back to africa and they didnt reproduce. the strong ones were bread. its as simple as that... and only that.. if there were no slaves it would be different.... im telling you
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6 2 240 lbs his weight only moved about 5lbs for contest kept himself lean and tight.

You are way off bro.. Arnold never competed over 225 pounds buddy... thats a fact.. It was UNHEARD of to have someone that big onstage until the days of Haney and Yates came around.. Yates was competeing at 250 pounds at his PEAK, granted hes only 5' 11 but his size was never seen on the stage before.
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I'm more of a fan of the "golden era" bodybuilders--not a fan of the massive bodybuilders of today--just my preference.
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245 was Yates before he got really freaky, which was 265 according to his listed competition weight.
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Ronnie Coleman PRE Steroids and competition plans.

Has some interesting pics. I'm not experienced to say wether or not he was juicing in this pic here, but my guess is he was.
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