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    T3 / clen critique - all input appreciated
    So I am starting my first T3 / Clen stack this coming Monday. I have done my research and I know there are tons of resources out there but I would like some members to give me some constructive criticisms / advise.

    Iím about 5í7 205lbs. Iíve cut down from a fairly tubby 230lbs since January.
    Iíve got lots of lean mass, and I expect to lose some muscle which I can deal with and gain back later. I figure my BF is about 20%.

    Iím currently doing 30min of intense cardio on the spin bike first thing in the morning. Weight training is based on Dorian Yates HIIT program every other day. Bench is about 325lbs 10x, just to give an idea of what Iím pushing.

    Diet-wise; Iím eating about 2200 Ė 2500 calories per day; about 300grams of protein per day, mostly chicken and whey.

    Gear - i've got 30ml of liquid clen and T3

    Now, for the cycle Ė this is what I have planned so far Ė and where I require the most advice. I plan on taking my doses first thing in the morning - unsure if i should take this before my cardio or after..






    Day 1 Clen 40mcg / T3 25mcg
    Day 2 Clen 40mcg / T3 25mcg
    Day 3 Clen 60mcg / T3 25mcg
    Day 4 Clen 60mcg / T3 25mcg
    Day 5 Clen 80mcg / T3 50mcg
    Day 6 Clen 80mcg / T3 50mcg
    Day 7 Clen 100mcg / T3 50mcg
    Day 8 Clen off / T3 50mcg
    Day 9 Clen off / T3 75mcg
    Day10 Clen off / T3 75mcg
    Day11 Clen off / T3 75mcg
    Day12 Clen off / T3 75mcg
    Day13 Clen off / T3 100mcg
    Day14 Clen off / T3 100mcg
    Day15 Clen 100mcg / T3 100mcg
    Day16 Cle 100mcg / T3 100mcg
    Day17 Clen 100mcg / T3 100mcg
    Day18 Clen 100mcg / T3 100mcg
    Day19 Clen 100mcg / T3 100mcg
    Day20 Clen 100mcg / T3 100mcg
    Day21 Clen 100mcg / T3 100mcg
    Day22 Clen off / T3 75mcg
    Day23 Clen off / T3 75mcg
    Day24 Clen off / T3 75mcg
    Day25 Clen off / T3 75mcg
    Day26 Clen off / T3 75mcg
    Day27 Clen off / T3 75mcg
    Day28 Clen off / T3 75mcg
    Day29 Clen 100mcg / T3 50mcg
    Day30 Clen 100mcg / T3 50mcg
    Day31 Clen 100mcg / T3 50mcg
    Day32 Clen 100mcg / T3 50mcg
    Day33 Clen 100mcg / T3 25mcg
    Day34 Clen 100mcg / T3 25mcg
    Day35 Clen 100mcg / T3 25mcg
    Day36 Clen off / T3 25mcg
    Day37 Clen off / T3 25mcg
    Day38 Clen off / T3 12.5mcg
    Day39 Clen off / T3 12.5mcg
    Day40 Clen off / T3 12.5mcg
    Day41 Clen off / T3 12.5mcg
    Day42 Clen off / T3 12.5mcg

    So thats my cycle. I appreciate any and all advice everyone has to give. SO lets see what everyone has to say...
    Assuming this is all good, and I get the members ok to move forward i'll start posting some progress pics.


    Thx

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    Not one response - almost 100 views?
    over killed topic?

    i'm mainly concerned about the T3.. carefull ramp up and down .. research shows thats the trusted technique...

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    Well I would think you would want to stop the t3 when you stop Clem cause you want to cycle it. Powerful stuff man you don't want to mess up your thyroid for life

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexus hensicus View Post
    Well I would think you would want to stop the t3 when you stop Clem cause you want to cycle it. Powerful stuff man you don't want to mess up your thyroid for life


    So just run one of them at a time? Basically all the research I have done says to run the T3 stright through the cylce - and the clen on / off in some sort of suitable manner all allow your beta 2's to recover.

    And the last 2 weeks i'm ramping down.. like when i'm running 12.5mcg, thats basically nothing.

    appreciate the reply

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    The cycle is good as it is, you don't need to cycle the T3. Just be sure to use some anabolics or you'll loose lbm big time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robalo View Post
    The cycle is good as it is, you don't need to cycle the T3. Just be sure to use some anabolics or you'll loose lbm big time.
    Thanks man.

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    If you want to use t3 it can diminished muscle but if that doesn't bother you. Run both but get some Oct for that t3 and cycle it for two weeks on then two off

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexus hensicus View Post
    If you want to use t3 it can diminished muscle but if that doesn't bother you. Run both but get some Oct for that t3 and cycle it for two weeks on then two off


    I don't mind if i lose a bit of muscle.. I'm pretty thick and putting on muscle is no problem.

    2 things, that is the OCT? I'm running 3 grams of taurine in the morning to deal with the cramping of the clenbuterol.

    and..
    the cycling of the T3. I've never heard of this. Basically all the research suggests running it throughout the cycle and to on/off the clen.



    Appreciate the input. I started day 1 this morning.. i''ll likely start a cycle thread and update with pics, stats, and any notable sides.

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    I mean post cycle therapy (pct) from n2b... you want to be careful with t3 cause you can permanently damage you thyroid if you keep it hyperactive with the constant use. Cycling it for two weeks or so keeps you from possibly damaging your thyroid. The time of gives it a break from working hard. And if you damage your thyroid you will basically be prescribed cytomel for life.... not a good thing

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    you have no reason to go over 50mcg on t3... that's more then double what your body naturally produces...

    except for that your fine

    dont forget to take something like benedryl 50mg every night every other week while on clen

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3J View Post
    you have no reason to go over 50mcg on t3... that's more then double what your body naturally produces...

    except for that your fine

    dont forget to take something like benedryl 50mg every night every other week while on clen

    good luck!
    Thanks 3J
    I totally agree, I've actually changed my cycle since posting this - and I've capped my T3 at 50 mcg, and I'm already at 100 mcg for the clen - as my sides were minimal.

    I'm going to do 2 weeks on / off now..
    you recommend any PCT / any need to do a taper down from the 50mcg on the T3?

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    Thumbs up Thanks for the thread
    Avoge320, Thanks for starting this thread.
    I'm in almost the exact same boat you are. Almost the exact stats you have and I want to try what you're doing now.
    Please continue updating, I'll be glued to it.

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