Deca - Primobolan. Real or fakes?

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Hi guys.
I wonder if anyone here know anything about these 2 amps.

[g1234]

the primo looks very legit to me, same one that i used few weeks ago and got good results from it

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Originally Posted by g1234

the primo looks very legit to me, same one that i used few weeks ago and got good results from it

Problem is that i found this info, see link below saying that the real ones do not have the blue dot and that the text should be in more bold style. Also the year should be in 2 numbers and not 4. The info also say that the fake is deca, and since i stack these to it would mean that if i have fake i will inject 700mg deca weekly, instead or 400 deca and 300 primo, which isnt really good.


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[g1234]

i have the blue dot on mines (i have them in my hands right now to compare). The year is in 4 numbers. The seri number / prod exp dates are the same, so its from the same lot.. for me its real...

Look in other posts in this forum about primo you'll see it must have a blue dot and 4 digits for years

[g1234]

its in the link you give, if you read more carefully :

THIS ARTICLE WRONG AND OLD
"also ,the year of production (Imal. Ta.) is printed with many digits.It is displayed with the full year as "10.2003" ON THE ORGINAL LABELS THE YEAR IS ALWAYS TRUNCATED ,AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN "10.03"

Trueth is new labels ara like Imal Tar.:02.2007 Son Kull. Ta.:02:2012 with full digits like that .I am from Turkey and I buy direct from Schering Company.

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Originally Posted by g1234

its in the link you give, if you read more carefully :

THIS ARTICLE WRONG AND OLD
"also ,the year of production (Imal. Ta.) is printed with many digits.It is displayed with the full year as "10.2003" ON THE ORGINAL LABELS THE YEAR IS ALWAYS TRUNCATED ,AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN "10.03"

Trueth is new labels ara like Imal Tar.:02.2007 Son Kull. Ta.:02:2012 with full digits like that .I am from Turkey and I buy direct from Schering Company.

Ye, thats true, i saw that too. Another guy in the same post show 2 amps, one with slim text and another with more bold text on the amps, he claims the bold ones are legit and they dont have the blue dot.

Anyway, many experienced people tend to say that almost all Primo like this are fakes, its a very easy thing to make a real good amp.

I bought these ones from my pharmasist, i live in Thailand but thats really not any confort because its so much fakes here too.

I have contacted Schering and it will e interesting to see if i get any good info from them.
I really dont wanna end upp stacking Deca with Deca...

The price i pay is 12US so thats very cheap aswell. Dont have a clue what the prices are in other parts of the world but for eg 50mg Deca from Organon Holland is higher, which is really strange.
The Deca from Karachi is about 3US amp.

If im not 100% sure i will return them and go with test instead.

[FerrariF50]

both legit. very nice

[gator_mclusky]

They look legit to me but both are the most counterfeited on the market.

gator

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Originally Posted by FerrariF50

both legit. very nice

Hmm, ok, good

But may i ask how you know? The Primo ive heard is almost impossible to know about.
Even if its real i might return them and go with Test Enth instead, feels like 7 ml injection is abit much, and if im not 100% sure. :P

[g1234]

send them to me then :P

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Originally Posted by g1234

send them to me then :P

hehehe.

[FerrariF50]

[FerrariF50]

the primo with bold print that was posted in those links above are the fakes imo

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Originally Posted by FerrariF50

the primo with bold print that was posted in those links above are the fakes imo

All Primos exept the one that are still in the plastic package seem fakes IF mine are real. The side by side comparison of the bold and non bold labels are booth having the Scering text placed to far up. The placement does not match the one that are in the plastic box. Maybe they just changed that recent??

Anyways, the ones you just posted seem to be the exact same as mine.
Trying to get in touch with anyone in the Schering company but they tend to not be willing to show any email address on the webs, so it takes more time then.
My plan was to start using them today...hmm

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I have now been talking to Schering in Istanbul, by phone and by email, they have reviewed my photos and tells me that they can not tell if they are real or fakes unless they run a test on the substance.



This was not that good, and this proves that its little odd by folks on here to be able to tell when the factory just cant

[g1234]

if they can't make the difference, its either real or a very good copy
but then you can doubt over any other product aswell...

i'd shoot it, except you have no confidence in your source

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Originally Posted by lash-back

I have now been talking to Schering in Istanbul, by phone and by email, they have reviewed my photos and tells me that they can not tell if they are real or fakes unless they run a test on the substance.



This was not that good, and this proves that its little odd by folks on here to be able to tell when the factory just cant

That is pretty funny isent it....I agree with you 100% I think 99% of guys cant tell shit by looking at a pic. Maybe that 1% of guys can tell and that's only if it's some old timer that been around for A long time and has seen things over and over through the years. But I cant see how some guy that has done a fuew cycles and maybe seen a certen amp once or twice can all of a sudden be an expert and even atempt to make A call like that..JMO. P.S. And no offence to eney of the guys that comented on this post I'm just talking in General how guys are so quick to respond at these kind of posts who really IMO are just taking a guess at it...

[g1234]

yes i agree you can never be sure.. but when these amps are the exact same copy (i verified every char of the text) than the ones i used 2 months ago, with the same serial number, and that i know for sure mines are real (bought from a pharmacy in turkey).. they are more probably real than fakes

now it already happened that i answer to such threads about primo and didnt see a small difference in the text on the box somewhere..then someone else came and noticed it.. so yeah you are right, you can never say for sure :/

but these ones, i'd use them

[g1234]

Primobolan Turkey - fake or..?

check this on your box ?

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Originally Posted by g1234

yes i agree you can never be sure.. but when these amps are the exact same copy (i verified every char of the text) than the ones i used 2 months ago, with the same serial number, and that i know for sure mines are real (bought from a pharmacy in turkey).. they are more probably real than fakes

now it already happened that i answer to such threads about primo and didnt see a small difference in the text on the box somewhere..then someone else came and noticed it.. so yeah you are right, you can never say for sure :/

but these ones, i'd use them

Checked that post and mine have the i without the dot aswell. Even a fake would probably be some steroid substance, as someone mentioned its Deca in one of the fakes.

Can i just ask how much you used and if you used it as a stack, and what your result were. Just interested.

[FerrariF50]

have i been wrong yet?

[g1234]

I ran it alone at 400mg/w during only 6 weeks
I gained 16 lbs and kept 14, it was two months ago
people told me it would be too mild too short etc.. i think its def. not and that primo kicks ass

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Originally Posted by g1234

I ran it alone at 400mg/w during only 6 weeks
I gained 16 lbs and kept 14, it was two months ago
people told me it would be too mild too short etc.. i think its def. not and that primo kicks ass

Hmm well, that was great gaining from what i had expected. As you said, all my research pointed at low slow gains, even if some guys told me that its far better than what the others said.

Maybe then its fake, and its a short ester roid inside, 6 weeks is really short time

Even if it would be deca fakes is a good gain in 6 weeks.

Did you got any sideeffects from it?
Now you are giving me second thoughts....... But still 4mk deca and 3 primo feels like a lot of juice to inject, im newbie so. An i was in that case planning on running it for 12 weeks at 300mg/w with my Deca.

EDIT: How do you open the Primos? By cutting the neck as usual or deas the color rings have anything with opening to do?

[g1234]

not sides at all, and im 99% sure that it's real, except if pharmacies themselves start to sell fakes of course

i read everywhere that primo is very mild and should only be used at 600mg/w at least.. i think its just people spreading that without having experienced it, because me and my friends that used it got very impressive results with only 400/w and for a short period..

My next cycle will be test E 250/w and primo 400/w, 6 weeks aswell.. i keep it short because im super scared of hairloss

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Originally Posted by g1234

not sides at all, and im 99% sure that it's real, except if pharmacies themselves start to sell fakes of course

i read everywhere that primo is very mild and should only be used at 600mg/w at least.. i think its just people spreading that without having experienced it, because me and my friends that used it got very impressive results with only 400/w and for a short period..

My next cycle will be test E 250/w and primo 400/w, 6 weeks aswell.. i keep it short because im super scared of hairloss

At what week did you start to feel it kick in, no matter what gear is used with long ester people tend to say between 3-5 weeks.

Was you gains pure or any fat or water? You gainad about 150grams a day if calculated since day 1, that must end up in every single bit of protein you ate went out been muscles :P
Have som thinking to do as i said.

You forgot to tell me how to open those amps.
Does the rings have anything to do with it or?