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NPP was never really all that popular simply because of availability issues. Many of the pharmacy grade NPP products range between 25mg-50mg/ml and are extremely expensive. Naturally, this limited its use among the bodybuilding crowd. Mexico and the underground did not bother producing it.
The recent increase in popularity of NPP can be attributed to the introduction of BM’s Dubol-100; the first affordable pharmacy grade 100mg/ml NPP. Eventually, more and more Underground Labs started producing the forgotten drug.
“Let's calculate the amount accumulated in the body after 6 weeks of 500mg/deca. Let's say you inject it once a week and we'll give it a 1.5-week half-life. Note that injection frequency makes a huge difference in blood concentration stability but no difference in amount of esterified in the system
E (greek letter "sigma") 500*e^(ln(1/2)n/1.5) from n=0 to n=6. So after 6 weeks, about 1300mg of esterified nandrolone remain in the body.
Now lets see how long, after the initial injection, it takes to reduce to a small enough amount that permits recovery.
1300*e^(ln(1/2)n/1.5) After 3 weeks, 325 mg of esterified remain
after 6 weeks, 81 mg of esterified remain.
After 8 weeks, 32mg of esterified remain.”
nandrolonedecanoate is a long acting depot; it takes quite a while for it to “kick in” and clear out of the system. Depending on how much is used; it will take at least 4-6 weeks after the last shot for deca to clear out. It also takes about 4 weeks for active blood levels to stabilize. This can easily add up to 8-10 weeks of “dead time” i.e. periods of time when blood levels are not consistent. These numbers apply to reasonable use of nandrolonedecanoate; between 200-400mg a week. The more you use, the worst it gets. So a 10-week cycle of deca can easily end up been a 16-week cycle when you account for clearance time (active blood levels). The first 4 weeks are also somewhat of a waste of time.
So that 10-week cycle ends up been 16 weeks; 6 weeks of optimal blood levels and 10 weeks of dead time. Not a very effective way to cycle.
With NPP, you can bypass all that dead time.
19-Nortestosterone based drugs are known to shutdown HPTA very easily - think Trenbolone. Most bodybuilders will use tren for around 6 weeks at the beginning of a cycle. NPP should be used in a similar manner.
Here’s an example of a balanced cycle consisting of NPP
It is a good idea to run test 2 weeks past the NPP, however; NPP can be used as a stand-alone.
Earlier, I compared NPP to tren. They are similar in some ways but tren is much more androgenic and stronger in general.
NPP shares some of the same sides associated with deca (they are after all the same base compound). It should be noted that most of the sides that come with deca are a result of its long ester. decanoate ester is very hard to control and nandrolone side effects are not easily countered like Testosterone related sides (Tamoxifen, anastrozole, finasteride…)
Overall, nandrolone is a milder compound than Testosterone and is better mg for mg (but that’s a matter of opinion)
nandrolonephenylprop should be injected at least every 3 days. A typical dose is 350mg-700mg a week for 5-8 weeks.
It stacks very well with Winstrol, dbol, test, EQ, Anavar
It does not stack well with tren and especially Anadrol
W1-6: dbol 30mg ED
W1-6: NPP 150mg EOD
W1-8: test Prop 150mg EOD
Highly Anabolic cycles
W1-6: NPP: 200mg E3D
W1-8: Anavar: 30mg ED
W1-6: NPP: 200mg E3D
W1-8: Winny: 50mg ED
A good First cycle:
W1-6: NPP: 150mg E3D
W1-4: dbol: 25mg ED
(W5-8: Anavar: 30mg ED - optional)
NPP in a typical cycle
W1-10: EQ 400mg a week
W1-9: testcyp 600mg a week
W1-8: NPP 200mg E3D
W10-13: test Prop 150mg EOD
nandrolone got a very bad rap with many bodybuilders; there is no reason to use nandrolonedecanoate if NPP available aside from year-round juicer using it for joint pain. nandrolone is a tremendous bodybuilding drug that can take your physique to a whole different level but many people shy away from it because of what they have heard or experienced with deca.
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Last edited by StoneColdNTO; 03-08-2009 at 07:12 PM.
i suffer alot on testosterone, i get unmotivated, my libido crashes,anxiety is spiked, i grew tits, lost hair. enough sides to make me swear ill never touch gear again, im happier than a pig bathing in flea infested shit when im not cycling test, im happy overtraining 6 days a week, my libido is STRONG, i have confidence like a mofo, so test has an opposite effect for me!! however i never tried a nandrolone based drug and am very interested, especially that its a faster ester
i suffer alot on testosterone, i get unmotivated, my libido crashes,anxiety is spiked, i grew tits, lost hair. enough sides to make me swear ill never touch gear again, im happier than a pig bathing in flea infested shit when im not cycling test, im happy overtraining 6 days a week, my libido is STRONG, i have confidence like a mofo, so test has an opposite effect for me!! however i never tried a nandrolone based drug and am very interested, especially that its a faster ester
It's just about the same for me, but I realised I could tolerate low doses of test like 350mg of Prop.
For those bro's that have juicing wifes this drug is also ideal. My wife loves the stuff. At between 50 and 100mg per week taken in divided doses every 3rd day it gives really nice results for the ladies. Androgenically it is as mild as anavar in my opinion but a better muscle builder.
What about cases where the hormone is boiund to fat cells and continues to suppress one for months after a deca cycle? This would still be a concern with NPP right?
[I][B] i tried Supra'ws NPP... and boy was i happy with killer results.... i was also on 1g of enanthate per wk as well...... i was 6 weeks in and i came across the NPP and decided to add it into my current cycle for 8 weeks...... WoW !!! i started to see awesome ruslts within 1 week ! harder / chiseled look ..... fuller as well.... very wieny .... kinda like fina ....
I typically run at least a 12 wk cycle. Why such short ones, even if it kicks in faster. I am also wondering why this article says not to run drol with npp, because i know lots of ppl that run it at the beginning of their cycles with deca?
and i had a friend to tell me to switch to NPP instead of deca in my cycle,i dont know anything about NPP,could someone elaborate on this for me,thanks guys
Nandrolone PhenylPropionate (NPP) Explained
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