Nolva vs. Clomid for PCT

[JMEALS]

Originally Posted by mosh69

Man, this shit is so confusing to me!!! I feel like I'm in fucking chemistry class and completely lost!!
I know I never experienced any neg symptons on my last cycle with no PCT and I'm having VERY minimal sides on my current cycle.
So, I don't know if I'm one of the few who don't react as harshly to AAS or what.
I'm prepared to do the PCT at the end of this cycle though, I'm just lost with all the different options available.
I've read different articles here that suggest either Clomid or Nolva then some say to add in an AI like Arimidex or Proviron?????
Since I've been lucky with no real sides so far I'm hoping that luck will continue into the PCT but not so sure with the big change in levels.
Never cared about the balls, mine don't atrophy much at all honestly.
So the HCG isn't a concern, true?
Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
I've kept the cycle simple Deca:400mg/wk Sus:500/wk
So I'd like to try to keep the PCT simple also.

simple..o.k. 14 days after your last sus shot start taking clomid 50mg twice a day(12 hrs apart) for 30 days...and take nolv at 20mg a day for 45 days ..
no need for more if your shutdown is minimal like you say..

[rebelbodybuilder]

Awesome Post! Love My Clomid............

[guns123]

confused.
on page one is seemed that nolva was the prefered option and clomid was pointless.then i read on to page 2 were opinion totally shifted to wards clomid instead of nolva (by the same people).
i know i have am probably missing something but can someone please clarify?and why?
i was thinking of running them together.


one more thing..


someone posted that proviron has a blocking action at the steroid receptor sites?????


Originally Posted by bachar

not crazy about proviron..IMO its blocking action at the steroid receptor sites outweighs its usefullness

[mannydasher]

great info here

[selectsoccer]

I am using androgel just to boost test while working out nothing hardcore should i even take nolva and for how long ?

[FerrariF50]

Originally Posted by selectsoccer

I am using androgel just to boost test while working out nothing hardcore should i even take nolva and for how long ?

if your natural test production is shut down then pct is recommended

[Dlove]

Originally Posted by guns123

confused.
on page one is seemed that nolva was the prefered option and clomid was pointless.then i read on to page 2 were opinion totally shifted to wards clomid instead of nolva (by the same people).
i know i have am probably missing something but can someone please clarify?and why?
i was thinking of running them together.


one more thing..


someone posted that proviron has a blocking action at the steroid receptor sites?????


Originally Posted by bachar

not crazy about proviron..IMO its blocking action at the steroid receptor sites outweighs its usefullness

Im confused too. It does seem like on page 1 nolvadex is the way to go on page 1, then on page 2 everyone says it's useless and clomid is the way to go. And some say taking both is the way to go where others say no. The thred is a little confusing, or im missing something.

[lee_1987]

hello im new to this site and dont realy no how it works...i have severe acne on my back and chest iv tryd no end of antibiotics from the docters and creams,gels and bacterial wash.im from the uk and was jus woundering if any body could help me owt or no any were i can get acutane thanks

[inkpack4141]

lee1987..are you cycling on test or dbol? is this why you have the acne or is it genetics? If you are cycling you just have to ride it out from what I know..especially if you've already went to the derma for it. And from what I've read (not from this thread because I haven't read it) Clomid is far superior to nolva for HPTA recovery which helps keeps more gains but I dont believe it is a huge difference but this I am not 100% sure. Nolva or clomid seperately for PCT is fine however nearly everyone i've heard who has used both says they are far superior to just using one or the other.