[Perfection Awaits]

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[rookie03]

wait...i think i saw a pro hormone back when they werent illegal...it was made in a blue bottl and called 1-test cyp i think...its the only thing that comes to mind.

[Perfection Awaits]

ya vpx made it

[RRAdam]

1-test is very similar to primo from what i can tell... kind of a poor mans primo i guess. its rather hard to find - it is one of my favorites though. i use 1-testNE transdermally. awesome strength gains and pretty good size gains. I definitely plan on running cyp in the future.

As for methyl test, its not very popular... heres big cats profile


Methyltestosterone was, well, still is the worlds first oral steroid developed. Using the now infamous 17-alpha-methyl alteration to render the base hormone, testosterone, orally active. However, unlike the whole host of injectable testosterones, methyltest is a rather crude and not very well liked compound. Mostly due to this alteration. Methyltestosterone is to testosterone, what Dianabol (methandrostenolone) is to Equipoise (boldenone). On the one hand the 17-alpha-alkylation of the steroid gives it less affinity for the aromatase enzyme so less estrogen is formed, but as with Dianabol, the estrogen formed is 17-methyl-estradiol, which is much more potent. Just as we will notice serious bloat and water retention with Dianabol, we will see the same with methyltestosterone, but to a much greater degree, simply because the base structure has twice the tendency to aromatize. With this amount of estrogenic effects, gynocomastia is a very real threat and concomitant use of an anti-estrogen is strongly advised.

The alteration also decreases the affinity for other structures. First and foremost the androgen receptor. This offers us few benefits. Due to the decreased androgenic activity the potency of methyltestosterone is weaker than that of testosterone, but even in terms of androgenic risk nothing is really gained. Testosterone being the prime androgen, even with this alteration risk of hair loss, acne, prostate hypertrophy and a whole host of other side-effects is never far away. Also, where Dianabol has little to no conversion to a more active androgen by way of the 5-alpha-reductase enzyme, methyl-testosterone still shows fair affinity for this particular enzyme and converts to the powerful 17-methyl-Dihydrotestosterone. These type of side-effects alone will turn most experienced users off of methyl-testosterone, at least when equally priced and more controllable injectable products are available. As with any potent androgen, some men may develop aggressive tendencies during its use.

As with Dianabol, what we have on our hands here is a very potent mass builder and all in all an effective steroid when observed individually. 40-50 mg per day taken for just a few weeks can make drastic changes. But since many already find the bloat and fat gain of Dianabol a bit much to tolerate, this steroid is never in high demand. Dianabol is more available, provides extremely good results, is quite safe and comparatively cheap. So there is a multitude of reasons why methyltestosterone is rarely used. It seems, however, that it is making a re-introduction as a medical aid for oligospermic men, especially in the United States. One reason for this may in fact be the low demand for it on the black market, making more physicians comfortable in prescribing it due to a lowered chance of abuse.

Lastly, as with all 17-alpha-alkylated steroids, we need to mention the risk for liver damage. A methyl-testosterone product used for extensive time periods can cause severe hepatoxicity, so use is best limited to 6, maximum 8 weeks on end followed by an off-period of equal length or longer.

In conclusion, most will find methyl-testosterone to not be worth their while. The side-effects are ever present, and while they can easily be combated with a combination of arimidex and finasteride, it seems a bit idiotic to pay 15 or more dollars per day on ancillary drugs that will reduce the anabolic activity, while spending only 1-2 bucks at most on the steroid itself.

[Perfection Awaits]

Thanks

[Insane_Man]

You looking at 1-test powders or some ug injectables?

Right now I'm wishing I stocked up on all them powders at 1fast for making injectables.

[GPAS]

There is a big difference between 1-Test Cyp and Methyl Test.
1-Test (aka dihydroboldonone) is by far the most irritating and painful substance I have ever tried in my life. I have tried it formulated several different ways and it was never ever a painless experience. It is, however, incredibly effective. It has a similar affect to boldonone (cyp), which makes sense since one converts to the other.
The greatest affect I received from it was amazing vascularity that happened very quickly. It was also noted to increase red blood cell count, though I never tested to find out if that were true.
Another side effect I noted was that it made me very tired. Once I upped my carbs, that seemed to taper off.
I still have some of the powder left. I often contemplate flushing it down the toilet, like I did with so many of the pre-ban prohormones. What makes me keep it is knowing that it is not a prohormone, but a true androgenic hormone.
I hope that I can eventually find a formulation that will minimize the crippling pain.

[RRAdam]

Originally Posted by GPAS

There is a big difference between 1-Test Cyp and Methyl Test.
1-Test (aka dihydroboldonone) is by far the most irritating and painful substance I have ever tried in my life. I have tried it formulated several different ways and it was never ever a painless experience. It is, however, incredibly effective. It has a similar affect to boldonone (cyp), which makes sense since one converts to the other.
The greatest affect I received from it was amazing vascularity that happened very quickly. It was also noted to increase red blood cell count, though I never tested to find out if that were true.
Another side effect I noted was that it made me very tired. Once I upped my carbs, that seemed to taper off.
I still have some of the powder left. I often contemplate flushing it down the toilet, like I did with so many of the pre-ban prohormones. What makes me keep it is knowing that it is not a prohormone, but a true androgenic hormone.
I hope that I can eventually find a formulation that will minimize the crippling pain.

you injected the base powder? yeeeowwwch.

[Maetenloch]

Originally Posted by GPAS

There is a big difference between 1-Test Cyp and Methyl Test.
1-Test (aka dihydroboldonone) is by far the most irritating and painful substance I have ever tried in my life. I have tried it formulated several different ways and it was never ever a painless experience. It is, however, incredibly effective. It has a similar affect to boldonone (cyp), which makes sense since one converts to the other.
The greatest affect I received from it was amazing vascularity that happened very quickly. It was also noted to increase red blood cell count, though I never tested to find out if that were true.
Another side effect I noted was that it made me very tired. Once I upped my carbs, that seemed to taper off.
I still have some of the powder left. I often contemplate flushing it down the toilet, like I did with so many of the pre-ban prohormones. What makes me keep it is knowing that it is not a prohormone, but a true androgenic hormone.
I hope that I can eventually find a formulation that will minimize the crippling pain.

I suspect the fact that it's known to be irritating is a reason why it was never commercially released. I have some 1-test cyp that I'm going to try eventually.

[RRAdam]

cyp is not as painful as the base would be.

[GPAS]

Originally Posted by Maetenloch

I suspect the fact that it's known to be irritating is a reason why it was never commercially released. I have some 1-test cyp that I'm going to try eventually.

Actually, 1-Test (No ester) and 1-Test Cyp were commercially released in powder form, before the ban. There was lots of buzz about it in other forums. The base version was used a lot in transdermal forms.
Back when everyone was ginea pigging the hormone, many were taking it in large quantities. Others were screaming about the pain from low doses. I think it is all in the way it was prepared.
Make sure you do the research before try it.

[robi70]

Dude think about it? I ordered a cycle of dianabol for my dog. He has a fight in about a month and a half. He weighs 43kg. And I wanna bring his weight up to 50kg.. He is a dogo argentino up against an american bulldog weighing 68kg. Experienced trainers have told me not too bring his weight up saying it will slow him down. On the other hand I have read articles saying that it can only have a positive effect on him. What should I do?

[cheezy]

Originally Posted by robi70

Dude think about it? I ordered a cycle of dianabol for my dog. He has a fight in about a month and a half. He weighs 43kg. And I wanna bring his weight up to 50kg.. He is a dogo argentino up against an american bulldog weighing 68kg. Experienced trainers have told me not too bring his weight up saying it will slow him down. On the other hand I have read articles saying that it can only have a positive effect on him. What should I do?

what should you do? I think you should eat a round straight off your AK-47. Stop abusing animals you sack of shit. If you think your a tough guy why don't you take some d-bol and agree to bare knuckle brawle some dude 25kg bigger than you to the death.

[cheezy]

I almost forgot why the hell are you posting this on a thread about 1-test-cyp.