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    Winstrol or Tren??? Mid Cycle crisis
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    i am 25 6'4 235 lbs and have been on a test enan and tren cycle for about 9 weeks. this is my first time using test and tren. i started (at 224lbs) by taking test 250mg every 5 days...and then started taking tren 50mg every day after 7 weeks. i was really expecting to gain more weight than i have, but now that i am already in the middle of the cycle..i have questions about what i should do now. i have been taking hcg - 250-500iu - every five days or so and 20mg of nolva every day. no real sides yet..no acne..no aggrsssion...no night sweats...balls normal...sex drive is way up (bonus)

    i am almost done with my 2nd bottle of test enan...and i was originally gonna end the cycle with winstrol...but i am wondering if i should just up the tren instead. maybe 100mg every day. because i really was looking for more size and definition...and i just am not getting it. or should i go with the winstrol? what rips you up more, Winstrol (winny) or tren? i used Winstrol (winny) once before by itself (painful shit...ouch!!) and really liked the ripped look it gave me...was kinda expecting the same or more from tren.

    or i could possible start another bottle of test enan...but is it safe to do take that much test for that long of a time?

    so i either

    -end the test, double the tren and no winstrol
    -finish the test, finish the tren, and start winstrol
    -keep the test going (another bottle) and stay on the same amount of tren and then use winstrol
    -keep the test going (another bottle) and double the amount of tren and no winstrol.

    what do you guys think is gonna work best for me? i just thought i was gonna get leaner and gain more weight.

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    I would up the tren. No drug will make you leaner to a great extent though, that's all diet. Gaining weight while at the same time getting leaner is a lofty goal, especially considering your proposed timeframe. Lengthening your cycle is probably the way to go. And what is your diet like right now? That is the biggie.

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    Diet is the key....

    Cutting and bulking at the same time is nearly impossible.

    If you are losing fat, putting on a lot of size wont happen.

    Up your doses and see whats what...increase your protien intake too!

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    the only i ever added any size and cut at the same time was when i hit early morning cardio and used novalog in the pm w/ a very strict diet. i wouldnt worry about gaining anymore now, just stick w/ your diet and tren and you will look bigger as you loose more fat.

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    so up tren...and no winny?
    so i should up the tren and no Winstrol (winny)? should i also continue the test? is it safe to run test enan for 15 weeks?

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    Yes you need test with tren otherwise your your messed up... So I've been told by the big bros here. Cause I'm running test e tren and anavar right now but sadly will run out soon after my pct.
    Last edited by xxhighbloodxx; 04-16-2013 at 05:46 PM.

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    If you haven't noticed you just bumped an eight year old thread.

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    Lol didn't see that there hahaha

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