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    Caffeine and anabolic steroids
    I get oddly high off of caffeine. Especially when on a cycle. I would even say it takes me from a depressed state to manic. Extremely euphoric. My usual dose is 400mg before a workout.

    The highs are amazing but off days suck really bad. I get depressed and sad.

    When I was on tren and would take caffeine it felt like I was on illegal amphetamines. So steroids must really affect how caffeine works? Is this an unhealthy habit? Could it even possibly hinder gains? Cortisol comes to mind.

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    Sounds like your just caffeine sensitive bro ... Everybody is different

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    Happens but not to everyone. Caffeine has been studied and shares some mechanisms in the brain with AAS, causing you to potentially develop dependence syndrome.

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    lol I have noticed the same thing. I Would say maybe it is a little more intense when I take steroids. If I take a strong pre work out supplement though I feel like I am on something. I get aggressive or very happy when I take lots of stimulant supplements. I have to be careful not to give people the I want to kill you look when im at the gym

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    hmmm... funny... i can never get enough caffeine... Actually there would be days when I could tell when I didnt get my normal amount and those were normally days I wouldn't workout, so thursday.
    That day was the day you don't want to come near me at work. Not only would I be extremely edgey, my temper would be out of wack and I couldn't stay focus (I think that would have to do with preworkout).
    Thats on and off gear. 6C of coffee in the AM + Pre-workout + Another 2-3C of coffee again. Which isn't a lot of coffee. And sometimes I would throw in a monster.
    Everyone is different. And, I know if I have far too much coffee, I get the worst feeling ever, like I want to puke, and my head is pounding (I think that has to do with dehydration and low sugars).

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    I too noticed the increased euphoria. But I stopped taking stimulant preworkouts a few months ago. Don't need them to have a good lift, and why put unnecessary strain on my cardiovascular system.

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    Caffeine doesn't do anything for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Austinite View Post
    Happens but not to everyone. Caffeine has been studied and shares some mechanisms in the brain with AAS, causing you to potentially develop dependence syndrome.
    please elaborate...
    you are saying over time that AAS (Testrosterone) makes the brain dependant on it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by APOLLON View Post
    please elaborate...
    you are saying over time that AAS (Testrosterone) makes the brain dependant on it?
    Yes. But only in about 35% of people I believe. You're probably one of them as paranoid as you are all the time

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    Quote Originally Posted by APOLLON View Post
    please elaborate...
    you are saying over time that AAS (Testrosterone) makes the brain dependant on it?
    Adonis Complex.

    AAS are not physically addicting, but can become mentally addicting as you're used to monitoring muscle development and strength progression.

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    Quote Originally Posted by APOLLON View Post
    please elaborate...
    you are saying over time that AAS (Testrosterone) makes the brain dependant on it?
    I am pretty sure hat isn't what he means. People who do not take AAS also develop a dependence of caffeine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Austinite View Post
    Yes. But only in about 35% of people I believe. You're probably one of them as paranoid as you are all the time
    I actually forgot what it was like working out with higher T...
    it was not until July and on till I saw my blood work and seen zero improvement in T levels that I got more concerned.
    I actually had my mind off it all this time...

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    actually sounds more like bipolar disorder... not to say you have it.. but i have a close friend who is type 2 and caffeine does that to him
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3J View Post
    actually sounds more like bipolar disorder... not to say you have it.. but i have a close friend who is type 2 and caffeine does that to him
    I used to believe I have it but never got diagnosed. So taking stimulants basically lets one with bipolar disorder control when to have happy time when to be sad?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3J View Post
    actually sounds more like bipolar disorder... not to say you have it.. but i have a close friend who is type 2 and caffeine does that to him
    He takes 400 mg of caffeine per serving....
    that's like 4 coffees all at once. He's using foreign substances in his body like "Tren" and High dose caffeine...
    I would lean toward saying he is messing with his body chemistry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theblitzkrieg View Post
    I used to believe I have it but never got diagnosed. So taking stimulants basically lets one with bipolar disorder control when to have happy time when to be sad?
    Are you depressed always?

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    Quote Originally Posted by APOLLON View Post
    Are you depressed always?
    I wouldn't say so. More often than I'm not I guess. I'm happy when I'm on stimulants. The rest of the time I'm looking forward to another dose.

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    it could be either or.. 400mg of caffine is nothing.. its 200mg in a large cup of coffee... the "serving size" shouldn't be mistaken with the average people drink..

    it doesn't "control" it.. it does affect your mood though.. he stays away from caffeine due to it
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    Quote Originally Posted by theblitzkrieg View Post
    I wouldn't say so. More often than I'm not I guess. I'm happy when I'm on stimulants. The rest of the time I'm looking forward to another dose.
    Wellbutrin SR would be an anti D you'd want to look into....it's an NDRI
    You probably need to stimulate those neurotransmitters....
    Stay away from SSRI's...you gain weight, your body gets dependant on them and you cant cum easy.

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    lol I think my brain is dependent on testosterone... lol when I was off of steroids every single day for a year and a half I woke up thinking to myself today would be a better day with mass quantities of testosterone flowing through my blood. I think a lot of us are addicted to the feeling of steroids honestly. I mean if a picture of a few vials of gear gives you a rush when you see it. That's basically saying its activating some odd part of your brain that has to do with the reward center. Just like when they have a cat scan of a drug attics brain and they show him a picture of a guy snorting a line. His brain is going to light up in the reward center. Lol not every one is going to have this reaction with steroids but I know for a fact it has effected me in a odd way to where I am overly excited about steroids themselves and not even the gains so to speak of some times.

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    But than again is craving a good feeling something bad? I mean if you showed me a picture of a hot girl naked the same part of my brain would probably light up.

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