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    Angry Feeling Ill after Testosterone shot !
    How do i stop this it's the most annoying thing ever and worse than any physical pain imaginable ?!
    I have a test injection and then 2 days later I feel like i've not slept in 2 weeks and have the worst drowsiness, flu-like symptoms ever. I'll sleep stupid amounts and then still feel extremely tired. No energy to train and i just feel completely ill.

    It seems to be worst with quad and pec injects, delts aren't that bad. But obviouslsy using test prop i have to switch the muscle around.

    I've just started taking a shit load of vitamin c and multi vitamins, guessing it could be immune system being lowered and then catching a flu or cold ? But why does it happen every single time !
    Also tried antihistamine but makes no difference.
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    It is called Test Flu , some people have it, switch to Test Enanthate or Cypionate you will be just fine

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Phoenix View Post
    It is called Test Flu , some people have it, switch to Test Enanthate or Cypionate you will be just fine
    I've already tried both of those and still had the same thing.
    Although it wasn't as bad due to the less freq injections.

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    prop seems to do that to alot of guys.... it did it to me. like stated, u can switch to E or C. the way i dealt with it was popping 800-1600mg of ibuprofen a day (in spread doses) that got me thru my cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by t6100 View Post
    I've already tried both of those and still had the same thing.
    Although it wasn't as bad due to the less freq injections.
    Change your product, really good claen and EO based Test E will not do that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Phoenix View Post
    Change your product, really good claen and EO based Test E will not do that
    What? More guys have had serious issues with EO than you can count. Many have experienced intense pain, test flu and severe allergic reactions with a few requiring hospitalization.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2rude4u View Post
    What? More guys have had serious issues with EO than you can count. Many have experienced intense pain, test flu and severe allergic reactions with a few requiring hospitalization.
    Ethyl Oleate reduces pain big time and products are much easily absorbed. Because when products contain organic oil ( grapeseed or anyother) the oil is digested by body fastly and product crashes inside muscle due to high concentration. In my point of view i will never inject a product who doesnt contain EO because i am sick of pain and almost all UG labs use shitty oils which are not meant to be injected. Oil for injection is not something that people can go and simply buy from somewhere
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    lol, get use to the pain with prop my friend
    the teritories of using prop, just deal with it or switch esters bro

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Phoenix View Post
    Ethyl Oleate reduces pain big time and products are much easily absorbed. Because when products contain organic oil ( grapeseed or anyother) the oil is digested by body fastly and product crashes inside muscle due to high concentration. In my point of view i will never inject a product who doesnt contain EO because i am sick of pain and almost all UG labs use shitty oils which are not meant to be injected. Oil for injection is not something that people can go and simply buy from somewhere
    This is only true if you are not sensitive or allergic to EO. The truth is that more people are allergic to EO than you realize and it does cause intense pain, test flu and severe reactions in those individuals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2rude4u View Post
    This is only true if you are not sensitive or allergic to EO. The truth is that more people are allergic to EO than you realize and it does cause intense pain, test flu and severe reactions in those individuals.
    I hear people talk about being sensitive to eo all the time. I agree with Dr Phoenix, i love EO. I can name several very popular labs that use EO in all of their products. I think there are a lot more people using EO than they realize. I also think that EO gets blamed for problems when its not the problem.
    Im not saying there arent people sensitive to it, i just dont think its as many people as everyone thinks. Just my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by t6100 View Post
    How do i stop this it's the most annoying thing ever and worse than any physical pain imaginable ?!
    I have a test injection and then 2 days later I feel like i've not slept in 2 weeks and have the worst drowsiness, flu-like symptoms ever. I'll sleep stupid amounts and then still feel extremely tired. No energy to train and i just feel completely ill.

    It seems to be worst with quad and pec injects, delts aren't that bad. But obviouslsy using test prop i have to switch the muscle around.

    I've just started taking a shit load of vitamin c and multi vitamins, guessing it could be immune system being lowered and then catching a flu or cold ? But why does it happen every single time !
    Also tried antihistamine but makes no difference.
    Swith to cypionate or enthanate, switch to glute injections, and if you are still having problems, switch labs. What lab are you using? Please dont mention the source, just the lab.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Phoenix View Post
    Ethyl Oleate reduces pain big time and products are much easily absorbed. Because when products contain organic oil ( grapeseed or anyother) the oil is digested by body fastly and product crashes inside muscle due to high concentration. In my point of view i will never inject a product who doesnt contain EO because i am sick of pain and almost all UG labs use shitty oils which are not meant to be injected. Oil for injection is not something that people can go and simply buy from somewhere
    I agree with you about EO. But you can easily buy filtered oil based carriers from medical suppliers. This includes grape seed oil, sesame oil, cottonseed oil, and many others. But for those that go to the grocery store to buy their oil, then i guess i see your point. But even these can be filtered and sterilized.

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    The lab i use, uses EO and they said a lot of people are very happy and i agree with that. I think it depends where they buy EO from??
    In my opinion not all EO is same grade, same quality. If you buy EO online it can be any shit.
    But if they have chance to buy it from real Chemical company than it should be ok.
    Also i think allergy chance is higher with organic oils, because labs use almond oil, hazel nut oil and shit like that
    There are a lot people out there who are allergic to these type of foods

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    Quote Originally Posted by hijacked View Post
    I agree with you about EO. But you can easily buy filtered oil based carriers from medical suppliers. This includes grape seed oil, sesame oil, cottonseed oil, and many others. But for those that go to the grocery store to buy their oil, then i guess i see your point. But even these can be filtered and sterilized.
    Years ago i have asked to the Chemical supply store which my friends owns about this subject.
    He said that oil you say is good for cosmetics and other purposes. But they are not for injecting. Yes you can sterilize that of course but that doesnt mean you can use it for creating an injectable solution.
    He talked about this subject too much and he said big Pharma companies buy these oil and apply further process before adding it to the products. I dont know what they do exactly but oils change color and viscosity. remember primo amps from bayer, their oil is so white like water and i used to inject too many real organon susta, they write on box that they use olive oil but product was same color with primo, not yellow or smell anything

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    Still cant figure it out, would lowered immune system + catching virus/flu each time make sense ?. Going to stop using insulin syringes as they only got 0.5" deep and get some 25g 1" then do glute injects only to see if it helps.

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    You are not getting a virus, its just a reaction to test prop. Your immune system is not related.
    If you insist on Prop just get use to pain and test flu. By time you will feel them less.
    And you need to tell what brand you use , hijacked also asked it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Phoenix View Post
    You are not getting a virus, its just a reaction to test prop. Your immune system is not related.
    If you insist on Prop just get use to pain and test flu. By time you will feel them less.
    And you need to tell what brand you use , hijacked also asked it
    I've tried Enanthate, Cypionate, and decanoate ( injectable ) and all had the same degree of it. Which is why by now i'd expect my body to be used to the test if thats what the issue is.
    ISIS Pharma I use now, and seems to be the best by far in terms of quality and results ( close to pharma grade ) Not tried the Pharma Enanthate or Cypionate though.

    Had some flu medicine which helped with the excessive tiredness + ibuprofen + multi vits.

    You know somethings wrong when you sleep for 12 hours, wake up and then go back to sleep for another 6 hours and STILL feel tired.
    So Fucking annoying but determined to get through this test prop and hopefully overcome this flu feeling which i'm sure is to do with a lowered immune system.
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    You may think what you want, but its your gear related.
    If you will have some better quality gear Ug or Human doesnt matter
    you will not have this problems

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Phoenix View Post
    You are not getting a virus, its just a reaction to test prop. Your immune system is not related.
    If you insist on Prop just get use to pain and test flu. By time you will feel them less.
    And you need to tell what brand you use , hijacked also asked it
    How can you possibly say that? Your immune system is related to all reactions having to do with a foreign substance injected into your body. It probably is not a virus as you stated, but it is immune system related.

    Your immune system is the cause of redness, swelling, itching, rashes, fevers, etc, etc, etc... These are all indications that your immune system is fighting something that does not belong in your system. Your immune system reacts to these substances the same way it does viruses, bacteria and fungi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by t6100 View Post
    You know somethings wrong when you sleep for 12 hours, wake up and then go back to sleep for another 6 hours and STILL feel tired.

    Are you taking any AI's? Only time I've felt that is after taking too much Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and crashing..

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2rude4u View Post
    How can you possibly say that? Your immune system is related to all reactions having to do with a foreign substance injected into your body. It probably is not a virus as you stated, but it is immune system related.

    Your immune system is the cause of redness, swelling, itching, rashes, fevers, etc, etc, etc... These are all indications that your immune system is fighting something that does not belong in your system. Your immune system reacts to these substances the same way it does viruses, bacteria and fungi.
    He is having these reactions every single time !!!!. After every shot
    His immune system is normal, there is something wrong with the THING he injected.
    No Matter how much he will boost his immune system, that reactions will not go away.
    In fact if his immune system is weak than he should be feeling ill after quiting the gear
    Lets see what will happen after he will stop injecting.
    He will be perfectly normal !
    Because according what you say he should be all the time ill all the time
    Since there are viruses , bacterias , fungis everywhere.
    Last Word, He is Normal and nothing is wrong with his immune system
    If he will use good gear, he will not have this symptoms.

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    My guess is his gear is made from low quality raw material , which carries a lot of heavy metals and stuff which should not be inside
    UG Lab Tests poz for heavy metals
    Read this article and you will see what i am talking about. If you gear is Dirty , i mean contaminated with poisonous chemical raw material
    than there NOTHING that your immune system can do to help you.
    Understood ? Your immune system cannot fight with chemical poisons
    So Stop injecting that shit to yourself and get well. HEALTH COMES FIRST!
    You say your results are really good but i couldnt get what type of results you are getting when you sleep 15-20 hours per day!
    Unless you are not eating and lifting in your sleep of course.
    Sorry to be harsh on you but thats the words which you need to hear.
    Gear suppose to make you feel like you smash walls, not fucked in the ass

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    Bro it sounds to me like your gear is shit..crappy quality..have you used this supplier before? is this your first cycle...pro fucks up alot of people....but if your gettin the same reaction from cyp and enthanate then your gear is bunk crap...bite the bullet and toss the shit in the trash..even if you have used this source before..he obviously got a batch of shit and your health is more important than the few dollars you put out.. Health and Family FIRST my friend..Everything else is a distant second...
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    Such an interesting thread as I suffered exactly the same as the OP as in symptoms, that much that I am not prepared to do my second shot. My brand being..... ISIS Test 350 contains...... Eltyl Oleate, Test Acetate 20mgs, Test Prop 25mgs, Phenyl Prop 35mgs, Test Deconate 135mgs, Test Cypionate 135mgs....This is all per 1ml......I am wondering as reading OP feelings and illness if mine is due to the Prop'?

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    Related To brand also ... Both cases same brand , cannot be luck

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