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    Quote Originally Posted by hardpr View Post
    the only ap product i ever used was EQ boldenone. (boldenone is not human grade and never was) its a vet drug. i did run it at 600mg per week for 24 weeks and found it to be ok. ive run other eq at less a dose and had better results imho
    This might very well be because what you had was overdosed. A lot of homebrews/ ugl's will overdose there oils to simply make a name for themselfs. Now overdosed might sound like a good thing at first but it really is not. When shit is overdosed you have no idea how much of a hormone your body is taking in, therefore there is no real control over your dosage, not a good thing. With ap you know what you are getting is properly dosed as stated in the label.
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    Were they putting hormones in an autoclave?

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    this is how real human gear are made! its gmp

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    I'm pretty sure those videos have been on YouTube for quite some time but still pretty cool I have to admit. Hell seeing 10-20k bags is a cool sight. But yea I would say not your average ugl. Lol.

    Thanks for posting, many of the older guys have probably seen this but it's good for everyone to see. Then go back and look at the documentary that may have been on discovery of the basic kitchen chemist, I'm sure they can still make a decent useable product but there really not in the same league just based on total output and people in general are lazy so it's always a good idea to sterilize things you buy from a ugl.

    Back when they did the last big round of busts, most of the ugl's were your average suburban homes, but I remember hearing how one was do dirty with raw powder that every step on the carpet left a footprint in hormone powder. What a waste of product and a bunch of dirty slobs. If you do it at home just for yourself, you should still be as sterile as possible.

    Good post.
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    And yes for all those posting that the products aren't human grade, you are correct, things like eq and tren etc aren't hg products, what they are showing is a standard of production, you don't have to like the lab or use their products, but the point was to show you how they make theirs and show its not your basic ugl, it's a full on factory and the standard of production is what you are looking at. There are many large well known ugl's who do so much business you would think they had something similar but in reality they have multiple cooks in different states each getting paid ok the number of vials made each month so you have a bunch of guys who may or may not know what they are doing and they have no one watching over them to control the process. This is where quality starts to be all over the place. If one person uses a different powder weight in the equation then it's either over or under dosed. Same goes for AP but it looks like they have it figured out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UserAt204 View Post
    but I remember hearing how one was do dirty with raw powder that every step on the carpet left a footprint in hormone powder. What a waste of product and a bunch of dirty slobs. If you do it at home just for yourself, you should still be as sterile as possible.
    Those people should be beaten badly if they had kids living in there too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UserAt204 View Post
    And yes for all those posting that the products aren't human grade, you are correct, things like eq and tren etc aren't hg products, what they are showing is a standard of production, you don't have to like the lab or use their products, but the point was to show you how they make theirs and show its not your basic ugl, it's a full on factory and the standard of production is what you are looking at. There are many large well known ugl's who do so much business you would think they had something similar but in reality they have multiple cooks in different states each getting paid ok the number of vials made each month so you have a bunch of guys who may or may not know what they are doing and they have no one watching over them to control the process. This is where quality starts to be all over the place. If one person uses a different powder weight in the equation then it's either over or under dosed. Same goes for AP but it looks like they have it figured out.
    Very well put, thanks bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FORBODYBUILDERS-BLOG View Post
    this is how real human gear are made! its gmp
    Do you autoclave all of your hormones? It seems like it would affect the structure of some compounds that are more heat labile...is it done at 120C?

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