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    Deca/Test cycle first time: advice
    Hey everyone,

    my stats:
    28 years old, 5'9 (1m75), 160 lbs (73 kilos)

    I'm an ex running athlete and I've been powertraining for the past three years. Needless to say, I'm ready to start my first cycle.
    After doing some research this is what I was thinking of:

    I have at my disposal:

    1 Test Cipionate vial 200mg/ml
    1 Test Enanthate vial 200mg/ml
    1 Deca vial 10ml 200mg/ml
    1 Deca vial 10ml 250mg/ml
    1 Clomid blister 20 tablets
    1 Tamoxifen box 100tablets

    And I was planning on using it like this:

    Test Decadurabolin
    1 1ml(200mg) 1ml(250mg)
    2 1ml(200mg) 1ml(250mg)
    3 1ml(200mg) 1ml(250mg)
    4 1ml(200mg) 1ml(250mg)
    5 2ml(400mg) 2ml(450mg)
    6 2ml(400mg) 2ml(450mg)
    7 2ml(400mg) 2ml(450mg)
    8 2ml(400mg) 2ml(450mg)
    9 2ml(400mg) 2ml(450mg)
    10 2ml(400mg) 2ml(450mg)
    11 2ml(400mg) 2ml(450mg)
    12 1ml(200mg) 1ml(250mg)
    13 1ml(200mg) 1ml(250mg)

    I would start my PCT two weeks after my last injections (week 16) and I was thinking about:

    week 16: 1 tablet of tamoxifen per day + 1 tablet of clomid per day
    week 17 : 1 tablet of tamoxifen per day + half a tablet of clomid per day
    week 18- 19: half a tablet of tamoxifen per day and half a tablet of clomid per day
    week 20: half a tablet of tamoxifent per day


    Can anyone tell me if the cycle looks ok and if you guys recommend anything? I've had some people saying I should incorporate an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) between the end of the cycle and the start of my PCT (two weeks)...I can get my hands on some liquid letrozole from the website ar-r.com, but that's it.

    Opinions, advice etc. would greatly be appreciated.

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    Hello bro and welcome to the board... If ur a first timer do many guys here recommend to do a test only cycle. Why ? Because this way u will see and learn how u react to test alone.

    My first cycle was test e and deca. And i did gain 15kg's. I was 6' and 143lbs when i started cyceling. So u and me are pretty much in the same boat.

    I not like the way u have idea to step things up and down. Just start out on 400mg test and 400mg deca from the first week. Have no effect doing it the other way.

    And i would stop using the deca 1 week before the test because of its life time in ur blood. And start ur pct 2 weeks after ur last test jab. If u stop using deca 1 week erlier then the test.

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    Im not the right guy to talk about pct... Some guys here hate me for that. But ur pct looks abit weak to me bro. Nolva 40/40/20/20 and if needed 10/10 week 5 and 6. And bump the clom to 300mg day1 200mg day2 100mg day1 and 100mg day 4-7 and week 2-4 u use clom at 50mg ed..

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    Hey carharrt,

    The cycle would be shortened then cause I only have:

    1 Test Cipionate vial 200mg/ml (10ml)
    1 Test Enanthate vial 200mg/ml (10 ml)
    1 Deca vial 10ml 200mg/ml (10 ml)
    1 Deca vial 10ml 250mg/ml (10 ml)
    1 Clomid blister 20 tablets
    1 Tamoxifen box 100tablets

    I have considered a test only cycle followed by 4 weeks of tamoxifen (1 tablet/day) as PCT

    However, the test only cycle would be 10 weeks on 400 mg, not sure if that has any effect...

    What do you think?

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    Bro not mix up ur test enan and cyp. If i was u wuld i go for test e or c. And i would try to get my hands one some more test. And do a 10-12 weeks cycle.. Never start a cycle with out having all the gear,AI and ur post cycle therapy (pct) in hand bro,,.....

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    of course, that's why I'm consulting the forum. :-)

    However, I've been told on another forum that test enan and cyp are virtually identical and it doesn't matter.

    Hm...what do you think

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    Test is test bro. But i think cyp takes longer time to kick in than enan.. Anyone have anything to add to this topic ??

    Again i have to say go for test e or c.

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    check "mix cyp and e" on google.

    99% = ok

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    i not say its not ok bro... but it makes no sence to me. do what u want and for the last time. i would go for test e or c alone.

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