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    Lightbulb 1st-TESTOSTERONE CYPIONATE CYCLE
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    21 years old turning 22 in a few months
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    Been working out for 2 years now, never had a weeks rest. I always try my hardest to make it at least 2-3 times if I cant go the usual 4-5.

    Never have done any sort of steroid before *due to my age*. Feel like I hit my limit, benched 275 at 158 at my prime, now I lost some strength.

    Anyway, I just got the stuff today from my local gym and I'm looking for some advice with my PCT.

    Dosage :300mg a week, 1 shot every sunday.

    Pretty basic for my first cycle, I asked my provider about which post cycle therapy (pct) should I take, Nolvadex or Clomid but he told me not to worry about that since at such a low dose I woulnt need any.

    I'm pretty skeptical about his advice since I'm not planning on doing steroids all my life, I'm looking at this as a tool to help me break out of this weight with clean lean muscle.

    I doubt that I'll keep the resulting weight/muscle after my cycle if I dont do a post cycle therapy (pct) *not to mention the side effects I might risk getting later on*.

    Help me out fellas, at such a dose should I buy pills for the post cycle therapy (pct)? If so which ones and at what dose do you recommend *include time please, im new.*

    Thank you for your help in advance.

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    What kind of gear is it? test?

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    Yeah TESTOSTERONE CYPIONATE 300mg bottle.

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    I'm not knocking your build because I see your avatar, but I really doubt you've reached your limit at 158lbs at 5'7". It's your body, just want you to make the most out of it before you make this decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drones200 View Post
    I'm pretty skeptical about his advice since I'm not planning on doing steroids all my life, I'm looking at this as a tool to help me break out of this weight with clean lean muscle.
    There is a very real risk of testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) for life from any cycle. Keep that in mind as well.

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    What VM said is true. But, I understand that you are going to do what you want, I would recommend you increasing the dose to 600 mg, and yes you do need a proper post cycle therapy (pct) if you want to keep your gains and get your body producing natty test in a timely manner. How many vials of the Cyp do you have? I started using AAS at the same age you are starting, and just like you the person whom I learned everything from did not have any real idea as to what he was talking about. I did not do a proper post cycle therapy (pct) and I lost all of my gains. Thankfully I did not run into any real sides like gyno, because I would not have had any clue as to what I would do to correct it. Since you are going to run a cycle, you need to plan it properly and make sure that you are going to get the best results that you will also keep, and at the same time being as good to your overall health and body that you can. You need to have an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) on hand as well as your post cycle therapy (pct), I cannot stress that enough.

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    I seriously suggest that you hold off on AAS use until you get older. Your natty test levels should be very high right now. You can make a lot of gains if you get your diet better. Check out 3J in the diet section. Not trying to put you down, but with your stats and your avatar picture please don't tell me your diet is "on target" cause its not. You'd be wasting your money on AAS when your diets not in check anyways. BTW, 300mg is a testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) dose. All you will be doing is shutting off your natural production of testosterone to replace it with the same amount that you already have. Then you'll be shut down and have to restart your HPTA again.

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    moved to the appropriate forum........
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    I agree with you MeatHead, but, if the kid wants to do AAS, he is going to do it no matter what anyone on here tells him. So if he is gonna do it, he just needs to be doing it in the safest and best way.

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    Troll?

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    Well, that's me now, I'm no longer dieting. When I was dieting I reached the 275 pound bench press I always dreamed off.

    Anyway, so you are saying the risk at my age are higher for TRT?
    My plans are to go on a strict fish/chicken/veggie etc. diet. No rice unless brown and absolutely no junk food, from coke-fast food.*including beer*

    Please try to use as little abbreviations as possible, I'm pretty new to this world of fitness. For example AI?

    I was lead to believe that at this dose the side effects would be less severe and could be prevented with a proper post cycle therapy (pct).
    My goal is to increase my lean muscle as much as I can, at a faster rate then normal ofcourse, and then keeping the most of those gains and never touch steroids again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drones200 View Post
    Well, that's me now, I'm no longer dieting. When I was dieting I reached the 275 pound bench press I always dreamed off.

    Anyway, so you are saying the risk at my age are higher for TRT?
    My plans are to go on a strict fish/chicken/veggie etc. diet. No rice unless brown and absolutely no junk food, from coke-fast food.*including beer*

    Please try to use as little abbreviations as possible, I'm pretty new to this world of fitness. For example AI?

    I was lead to believe that at this dose the side effects would be less severe and could be prevented with a proper post cycle therapy (pct).
    My goal is to increase my lean muscle as much as I can, at a faster rate then normal ofcourse, and then keeping the most of those gains and never touch steroids again.
    AI is aromatase inhibitor. People run it during the cycle to combat sides like gyno.

    The cycle I'm looking at running is 10 weeks of Test E, 500mg a week, with aromasin (AI) and Clomid pills for post cycle therapy (pct).

    I'm 20, 5'9" and 170 pounds btw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VirginMuscle View Post
    There is a very real risk of testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) for life from any cycle. Keep that in mind as well.
    So very true it happend to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UCDavis View Post
    AI is aromatase inhibitor. People run it during the cycle to combat sides like gyno.

    The cycle I'm looking at running is 10 weeks of Test E, 500mg a week, with aromasin (AI) and Clomid pills for post cycle therapy (pct).

    I'm 20, 5'9" and 170 pounds btw.
    Wanting to run similar cycle .....you think that would be enough for Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and PCT

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    Yes, it is enough to have Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and post cycle therapy (pct). You should never run a cycle with out post cycle therapy (pct), and it is better to spend the money on an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) than not spend the money and to need it. Be smart about what you are doing to your body, you only get one.

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    Too young my man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flexx1 View Post
    Wanting to run similar cycle .....you think that would be enough for Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and PCT
    I'm just starting out with gear bro. I'm sure the more experienced/older guys can give you better advice than me, but yeah, that's pretty much what I'm going to run.

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    bro u need to hold off and research more, by the time u inject you should know every abbreviation. if not your not ready. You need to spend months/years researching this stuff. also research bulking diet and learn how to eat... you need to up your weight. get a hold of 3j in the diet forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dankone85 View Post
    Yes, it is enough to have Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and post cycle therapy (pct). You should never run a cycle with out post cycle therapy (pct), and it is better to spend the money on an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) than not spend the money and to need it. Be smart about what you are doing to your body, you only get one.
    I thought so, thats why i came here and posted this thread instead of listening to my provider. I know how dangerous steroids can be thats why I'm here asking for help.
    Now im not as excited or motivated to go on a cycle as I was before.
    I don't care about spending more money, it's my health/body and that's priceless.

    But it seems to me that even with a proper post cycle therapy (pct) and Aromatase inhibitor (AI) the risk are still high that I'll regret this for the rest of my life. That's not what I'm looking for and I would have to be pretty immature and stupid to still go ahead and do it If the rest of the people telling me that I'm too young are correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VirginMuscle View Post
    I'm not knocking your build because I see your avatar, but I really doubt you've reached your limit at 158lbs at 5'7". It's your body, just want you to make the most out of it before you make this decision.
    Well I made the mistake of totally ignoring my legs too. So all of that mass is upper body strength, my lower body is pretty damn weak. I got good cabs because of my genes so it doesnt look bad but I stopped working out my legs a while back, I was going to start working on them with this cycle.

    And thanks u can see i'm kinda stretching the skin down, bad diet/cardio got me some fat but u can still c that abs were there.

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    you need to get your diet checked buddy.. i know your not going to listen to us about doing a cycle but at least dont let it go to waste with a poor diet
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    300mg of test??? Thats hardly enough to get good results...you should run at least 500mg...


    But first and foremost, you are entirely TO YOUNG to use juice...your not done developing..imagine your 29 years old in bed with a HOT ASS CHICK and cant even get a boner because you wanted to use juice as a youngster!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warren916 View Post
    300mg of test??? Thats hardly enough to get good results...you should run at least 500mg...


    But first and foremost, you are entirely TO YOUNG to use juice...your not done developing..imagine your 29 years old in bed with a HOT ASS CHICK and cant even get a boner because you wanted to use juice as a youngster!!!
    Haha noted.

    Anyway, after doing more research I changed my mind on the subject.

    I already got a guy thats willing to buy the stuff from me.
    You guys motivated me to take a different route, however I will definitely do a cycle as soon as I turn 25.*my original intentions before I got talked into it.*

    Going back to my old strict diet and probably going to take triazole/active extreme cycle with my usual pre workout/protein shakes. As close to the real thing I can think off at the top of my head while keeping it all natural.

    Thanks for the honesty fellas, clearly my local gym owner doesnt give a &@*# about my health.

    I'll be checking out the dieting forums in hopes of getting a better diet on track.
    Last edited by Drones200; 02-17-2012 at 05:26 AM.

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    Damn dude your a first! Good decision! Would like to add when your get to a point like you metioned your are now in your training and progress! Take a whole week of and recover! You will be amazed at the results!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3J View Post
    you need to get your diet checked buddy.. i know your not going to listen to us about doing a cycle but at least dont let it go to waste with a poor diet
    this is your best option my friend before even considering a cycle,and 300mg/week aint crap for a cycle,not being dispresectful,but dude thats my testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) dose,600mg/week minimum,but at your weight,3J can help yu more than gear can at this point,then after that,learn your diet needs,then go to gear later,im just being honest and trying to help you so you will succeed and to achieve your goals

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