test e/dianabol -8weeks cycle advice opinions thoughts .

[tziaitzoou]

im 1.70cm 72kg 10-12%fat 10 years training and my goals is 5-8 kg lean muscle

this is my first cycle
going to run dianabol and test e

1-8 test e (testoviron) 250mgx2 e/w
1-4 dianabol (danabol ds) 30mg e/d
1-8 proviron 50mg e/d?
liv52 ofcourse all cycle and PCT
1-10 arimidex 0.50mg eod or 1mg eod ? or just in case?if gyno run arimidex and continiue the cycle or stop the cycle and continiu with PCT?

---- 4-10 pregnyl (HCG)2x250iu e.w ?
or 4-8 ?

PCT
10-14 nolvadex 40/40/20/20
10-14 clomid 100/50/50/50
or
arimidex and nolva?


its ok run arimidex and proviron together ?or arimidex just in case bloat float gyno ?
i m not sure if its nessesary HCG (pregnyl)??? but if it is , its better run during 4-10week or 4-8 2x250iu e/w ???
its better run arimidex and the weeks on PCT with nolvadex without clomid or the nolva clomid its ok?

thanx a lot you will help me i want to learn more im reading all the time the only thing its to see how it goes ....

[Zeek]

Welcome to ology TZ!


You are 5ft 5 and 158 lbs. Putting this out there for other guys to be able to better help you.

I don't have time to really get into cycle specifics with you brother but I will say that 8 weeks of test E is not long enough to bother with. I would advise no less than 12 weeks on test E.

[tziaitzoou]

thanx man im waiting for the others what they have to say

[wclark316]

how old are you?

[sofargone561]

no need to run nolva and clomid together for PCT. i recomend aromasin and clomid during PCT.

also 50mg proviron ed would be fine thats what i run it at.
Also as stated above test e should be run for 12 weeks or so.
maybe 10 but not 8 its just a waste. I would say just run regular test E 2 and not testoviron but thats just me

also its just me but id up the dbol to 50mg ed for the 4 weeks. all or nothing man.

also as stated above how old are you. also how many cycles have you done. if this is your fist then just run test E 500mgs a week for 12 weeks, dbol 50mg a week for 4 weeks proviron 50mg ed for 12 weeks and run an AI on cycle with clomid and aromasin for PCT. No need to go crazy if its your first cycle. some guys might say not even add the dbol and just do the test.

[supersafado]

Most people run no less than 12 weeks. I am running my test e cycle for 16 weeks just so you have an idea. test e takes a while to kick in. ( around week 6-8) so extending it out helps your body maintain the new weight. I also am doing dbol in a first cycle. I don't think more than 30mg for the first cycle is a good idea. Stay a moderate. 30mg was just right for me. then you can watch and see how your body reacts to it all. Even off the 30mg of dbol. I am getting lots stronger.

[tziaitzoou]

sorry guys ..im 30 years old and this is my first cycle ...
imnot going crazy about the gear dianabol test e its enough im ok and i have a good feeling ..the only that thinking its about
1.running an AI(arimidex) or a serm (nolva) during 8 week cycle or just in case of gyno or bloat/float?
2.running arimidex with clomid arimidex with nolva for PCT or nolva clomid its ok ?
i dont want to overkill

all the time im reading something different about AI and PCT whats the protocol about test e dianabol for 8 weeks i know intepends of the user but its normal... there is a protocol for this


how it goes if

1-4 dianabol
1-8 test e
1-8 proviron
4-10 hcg
1-10 arimidex
10-14 clomid
10-14 nolva

[tziaitzoou]

no need to run nolva and clomid together for PCT. i recomend aromasin and clomid during PCT.

also 50mg proviron ed would be fine thats what i run it at.
Also as stated above test e should be run for 12 weeks or so.
maybe 10 but not 8 its just a waste. I would say just run regular test E 2 and not testoviron but thats just me

also its just me but id up the dbol to 50mg ed for the 4 weeks. all or nothing man.

also as stated above how old are you. also how many cycles have you done. if this is your fist then just run test E 500mgs a week for 12 weeks, dbol 50mg a week for 4 weeks proviron 50mg ed for 12 weeks and run an AI on cycle with clomid and aromasin for PCT. No need to go crazy if its your first cycle. some guys might say not even add the dbol and just do the test.

thanx a lot man

[hamidgs]

welcom bro
i dont think 8 week cycle on test E is long enough, 12-16 weeks is good .
i dont realy think you need HCG even .
nolvadex/ clomid is good PCT .
must important part is your diet.

[tziaitzoou]

so is it ok to start it the next days?what are you preffer?

[tziaitzoou]

ok for 10weeks the test
ok for arimidex during the cycle and proviron
for hcg 4-8, or 4-10 and stop it 4 days before PCT and
nolva /clomid toggether do you think is fine ???

[China_Wall]

no less than 12 weeks for the test e bro... that doesn't mean 10, that means 12 or more (listen to Zeek, he knows his shit)

arimidex and proviron is no problem throughout the cycle...

hcg right up til a few days before PCT is good

nolva/clomid for PCT is the standard... nolva 30mg/clomid 50mg everday for 30 days (starting 2 wks after last injection of test e)

[gymrat827]

sorry guys ..im 30 years old and this is my first cycle ...
imnot going crazy about the gear dianabol test e its enough im ok and i have a good feeling ..the only that thinking its about
1.running an AI(arimidex) or a serm (nolva) during 8 week cycle or just in case of gyno or bloat/float?
2.running arimidex with clomid arimidex with nolva for PCT or nolva clomid its ok ?
i dont want to overkill

all the time im reading something different about AI and PCT whats the protocol about test e dianabol for 8 weeks i know intepends of the user but its normal... there is a protocol for this


how it goes if

1-4 dianabol
1-8 test e
1-8 proviron
4-10 hcg
1-10 arimidex
10-14 clomid
10-14 nolva

how about this:
d bol 1-4
tes e 2-10 @ 400mg so you go another wk
1-8 proviron 100mg ED
1-12 adex .5 EOD
12-16 nolva 40/40/20/10
12-16 clomid 50/50/25/25

[tziaitzoou]

how about this:
d bol 1-4
tes e 2-10 @ 400mg so you go another wk
1-8 proviron 100mg ED
1-12 adex .5 EOD
12-16 nolva 40/40/20/10
12-16 clomid 50/50/25/25

that i was thinking to do before days but i said its just fine like the most guys do ....i will try that you say i like this thinking kickstart and go on with the test ...what about hcg how mutch i need when and how long ..im thinking run from the 4 week and stop it 4 days before PCT ..what other guys thoughts about that? thanx bro

[tziaitzoou]

how you thing run this?