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    danieltienbui
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    First cycle- sustanon 250 and test enanthate
    this is my first cycle. im taking in .7ML of sus and .7ML of test e every 5 days. started DEC 1 2011.

    1 ML = 250mg

    i was wondering how long should i do my cycle for and when do i take Nolvadex and Clomid?

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    Quote Originally Posted by danieltienbui View Post
    this is my first cycle. im taking in .7ML of sus and .7ML of test e every 5 days. started DEC 1 2011.

    1 ML = 250mg

    i was wondering how long should i do my cycle for and when do i take Nolvadex and Clomid?
    welcome to ology

    you do realize that sustanon is just test and so is eth dont you?
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    yes

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    oops im sorry im taking trenbolone enanthate and sus 250.. i read that you shouldnt take trenbolone enanthate on your first cycle but that was after i started the cycle. what happens now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by danieltienbui View Post
    oops im sorry im taking trenbolone enanthate and sus 250.. i read that you shouldnt take trenbolone enanthate on your first cycle but that was after i started the cycle. what happens now?
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    NOT ONLY IS STUPIDITY INCURABLE BUT ITS ALSO CONTAGIOUS OVER THE INTERNET.

    VAR ONLY CYCLES ARE ONLY FOR PEOPLE WITH A VAGINA.

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    benching 225, Deadlift 315, squats- 275.

    Quote Originally Posted by DADAWG View Post
    age
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    weight
    training experience
    etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by danieltienbui View Post
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    i realize your short but you weight 145 pounds you dont need tren to grow. drop the tren now and add food. run the sustanon for 12-14 weeks at 400-500 mg a week and EAT. start pct at 50 mg of clomid a day 3 weeks after the last injection and run it 3-4 weeks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DADAWG View Post
    i realize your short but you weight 145 pounds you dont need tren to grow. drop the tren now and add food. run the sustanon for 12-14 weeks at 400-500 mg a week and EAT. start pct at 50 mg of clomid a day 3 weeks after the last injection and run it 3-4 weeks.

    x2 dawg knows best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danieltienbui View Post
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    benching 225, Deadlift 315, squats- 275.
    Tren is for experienced users. It's bad stuff. Before you do anything you need to put on a few natural pounds. Your pretty much the same size as my girlfriend. You got a few more lbs than her but damn

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    danieltienbui
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    why do you want me to drop tren?
    so sus 400-500mg a week in 2 injections or just 1 injection a week? so 12-14 weeks total for the cycle right?

    should i only take clomid? or should i add nolvadex too?

    Quote Originally Posted by DADAWG View Post
    i realize your short but you weight 145 pounds you dont need tren to grow. drop the tren now and add food. run the sustanon for 12-14 weeks at 400-500 mg a week and EAT. start pct at 50 mg of clomid a day 3 weeks after the last injection and run it 3-4 weeks.

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    also should i stack sus with something else?

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    Split it to 2 injections weekly to maintain stable levels....

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    Quote Originally Posted by danieltienbui View Post
    also should i stack sus with something else?
    you dont need to stack . you dont need more steroids , you need more food.
    tren is harsh and not needed for newbies. if you cant grow off of 2 injects of sustanon a week at 145 pounds then you are NOT eating enough and no amount of steroids can fix that. steroids need calories and protein to make muscle ,go to the diet / nutrition forum here and ask for help.
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    Stick with sus. for for your first cycle.....

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    danieltienbui
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    Ok will do that. So 3 weeks after my last injection i should start my pct, can i ask why 3 weeks after?

    And you didnt answer this but should i take nolvadex along with clomid? Or just clomid?

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    Quote Originally Posted by danieltienbui View Post
    Ok will do that. So 3 weeks after my last injection i should start my post cycle therapy (pct), can i ask why 3 weeks after?

    And you didnt answer this but should i take nolvadex along with clomid? Or just clomid?
    sustanon is a long ester and remains in your system for a while , waiting allows it to clear out so that your post cycle therapy (pct) will work. you can add 20 mg of nolva a day to clomid if you want to , no problem.
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    Ok got it. Just out of curiousity, what if i still keep taking tren? What would it do?

    And after the cycle is done, how long should i wait until i start a new cycle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by danieltienbui View Post
    Ok got it. Just out of curiousity, what if i still keep taking tren? What would it do?

    And after the cycle is done, how long should i wait until i start a new cycle?
    i give up take the tren , good luck .
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    VAR ONLY CYCLES ARE ONLY FOR PEOPLE WITH A VAGINA.

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    Lol it was just a question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danieltienbui View Post
    Lol it was just a question.
    you allready knew you were advised against it .you dont eat enough and dont need tren to grow ITS THAT SIMPLE.
    but if it makes you happy if you keep asking eventually another newbie will agree with you using tren and then you can take it and feel all warm and snug inside because someone agreed with you.
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    Dude, if I had a buck for everytime someone comes on here wanting to hit their first cycle with an assorted cocktail of gear... sheesh!

    Do your body a favor and ready thru these forums FIRST, there is so much good advice out here from folks like DADAWG and every single one of your questions has been answered numerous times.

    First cycle, keep it simple bro, straight Test and nothing else so you know how the fuck your body is going to react. Throwing in an assortment of shit, esp. nasty shit like Tren and when you do have problems, you wont know where the fuck to start looking for a solution.

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    Also, if you did your research first you would know that Sustanon (sust) is a combination of several test bases,and all release at different times,hence you havt to pin eod with it to get optimal benefit. So, unless you enjoy sticking yourself every other day I would advise you look at cycling just Test E or C, they are longer esters than sustanon so you only have to pin 2 x week

    Good luck bro

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