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    tren PCT
    hi guys

    just had my last pin of tren ace week 7, do i wait 2 or 3 days to start clomid pct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shehadeh View Post
    hi guys

    just had my last pin of tren ace week 7, do i wait 2 or 3 days to start clomid pct?


    did you run test with the tren ace?? what type of test?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shehadeh View Post
    hi guys

    just had my last pin of tren ace week 7, do i wait 2 or 3 days to start clomid pct?
    There are some great sticky's at the top of the forum regarding PCT, just curious though, you mentioned you just did your last pin, did you not plan for a PCT?

    Also did you run something with it?

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    If you ran a short ester test like propionate then post cycle therapy (pct) can start after 1 week since tren ace is a short ester also. If it's test enenthate, then 2 weeks. If no test, well then your an idiot and have a long road to recovery.

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    why am i an idiot, i dnt agree, i did run tren ace without test i wanted to see how it works and it worked amazing no issues at all. but what did you mean i have long way to recovery is it becuase i didnt run test? advice pls

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    Tren is an amazing drug and you'll still get great results even without test. But...because you ran no test your hpta has been shut down for the duration of the cycle, plus tren shuts your hpta down hard and recovery is going to take awhile since it's been dormant for awhile. I'd suggest blasting Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) before hitting your post cycle therapy (pct). Sorry for being a dick about calling you an idiot, but you potentially did some serious damage running no test.

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    i mean during the cycl i had no sex issues, i gained 12 pounds even my dietwas not perfect, next time i will run it with test, but i only have clomid for pct, will that not be enough?, what you mean it take long to recover? how long?

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    Clomid should be fine but if you can get Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) also to run before. When you inject synthetic hormones your natural test shuts down and your body makes 0 test. That is why it's very impotant to inject synthetic test to keep your hormone in check. The duration of your cycle your body produced 0 test, which means when you pct it'll be alot harder for your body to start reproducing test(if it even does). Tren makes it even harder for you to kickstart your natty test production also. You may feel fine during cycle, but that doesnt mean you are. After pct MAKE SURE YOU GET BLOOD WORK!! To make sure that you recoverd.

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    Could be months before you recover, but everyone is different.
    You might notice a month from now that you can't stay hard.

    If it were me I would jump on some test at 200mg a week, and either taper or run hcg..or both. Some people hate the test taper method but it has always worked for me,and a smooth transition after being on for a long time.

    Either way I'd run a bit of test prop for 4 weeks, then come off.

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    but i just started pct with clomid, i guess i will try get some Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) tomorow, thats not good i dnt wana be shut down for month to come?

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    If you started your pct then it's too late for Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) as it needs to be ran before you start pct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shehadeh View Post
    but i just started pct with clomid, i guess i will try get some Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) tomorow, thats not good i dnt wana be shut down for month to come?
    Well, I have never run Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) during my PCT as my thoughts are it will suppress you to a degree, I don't have empirical evidence for you, but it came from trusted sources. I would run Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) for 10 days after my cycle then stop 4 days prior to Serms(Clomid, Nolva) in post cycle therapy (pct).

    Maybe refer to the post above from thetruepitbull and hit some Prop. Then PCT.

    Good Luck

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    Why would taking exogenous test make it any easier for your natural levels to recover after. I agree with all your advice I just don't understand the rational of test helping you recover. I do agree that test is necessary.

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    thank you exactly wat i was thinking , why would test help in recovery, taking test will stop own production, i dnt agree with runing test after my cycle,

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    Quote Originally Posted by shehadeh View Post
    thank you exactly wat i was thinking , why would test help in recovery, taking test will stop own production, i dnt agree with runing test after my cycle,
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    Quote Originally Posted by shehadeh View Post
    thank you exactly wat i was thinking , why would test help in recovery, taking test will stop own production, i dnt agree with runing test after my cycle,
    Because you have been shut down with ZERO test the whole length of the cycle verses keeping you hormonal balance injecting exo test. Either way, you have a tough recovery and most likely will be on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) due to your fucked up cycling.

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    If you run a low dose of test you can take Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) also to keep your hpta stimulated, then transition to pct hopefully making recovery easier.

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    ok thanks

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    Let me give you some info about Tren coming from personal experience. I'm going to assume that you didn't run anything like Caber or Prami during your cycle since you didn't even run Test. I'm betting that what's going to happen now is any gains you made will be gone, and quickly. I'd advise you get bloodwork done and I'd almost be willing to bet that you're going to find that your Test levels will be very low and your Prolactin levels are going to be high and maybe even your Estrogen levels high.
    Tren raises your Prolactin levels, that's why you need Caber or Prami. When your Prolactin levels increase, it decreases your test levels. Tren also makes you crash hard. Again, this is why Test SHOULD always be run with any cycle, especially with Tren. I went through this for all these very reasons except that I DID run Test during my cycle, I just didn't run Caber or Prami and it was a very horrible way to gain knowledge. If you get blood done and it shows that what I said is true, then you have your work cut out for you to get this all fixed back to normal.

    Play it safe, never run any cycle without at least a little Test included. It's not worth risking your health to save a few bucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shehadeh View Post
    thank you exactly wat i was thinking , why would test help in recovery, taking test will stop own production, i dnt agree with runing test after my cycle,
    Sometimes it never hurts to go back a few steps in order to proceed properly. Either way in my simple opinion being able to get the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) inyo you and stimulating yourself may speed up an otherwise long and very shitty recovery.

    Good Luck

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    OK, very informative. I just started cycling Tren E 300mg & Test C 100mg. Is that a fucked up ratio? Also got the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) & Clonid lined up for later, but did not know about Pram. Is it too late, have had 2 injections. Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by MHAQ View Post
    OK, very informative. I just started cycling Tren E 300mg & Test C 100mg. Is that a fucked up ratio? Also got the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) & Clonid lined up for later, but did not know about Pram. Is it too late, have had 2 injections. Thanks
    You would probably get a answer if you used your own thread. Just a thought.

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